Shamima Begum...

[Murph7355]

1602Mark said:

Do we know what videos etc she watched prior to flying from the UK? (Genuine question)

Alvin and the Chipmunks. Vicious.

[anonymous-user]

Starfighter said:

Assuming that to be a correct lift from the legislation then I find it frightening that the Home Secretary has the power to remove citizenship with only “reasonable grounds to believe” that a person could get citizenship elsewhere. By the same token my son could have citizenship removed as my FIL is from Ulster so he could claim Irish citizenship.

We are not a despot dictatorship, the key word is accountability, the PM could overrule it.

They is too much what ifs on this thread which I I guess is being used to detract from the real issue. All this was done, because the security services and experts deemed anyone that does what she does, is deemed a VERY high risk to the general public, a high probability she would inflict harm on normal people.

So why not disagree with this statement, because after all this is the crux of the reason the HS did what he did..

[Quisling]

Murph7355 said:

1602Mark said:

Do we know what videos etc she watched prior to flying from the UK? (Genuine question)

Alvin and the Chipmunks. Vicious.

Suddenly i feel a deep sympathy for her

[Richard-390a0]

Obviously hoping a makeover will help her case...

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/isis-bride-s...

[anonymoususer]

Richard-390a0 said:

Obviously hoping a makeover will help her case...

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/isis-bride-s...

She looks a bit Ziva David in that
If she hurries back quickly she could get protesting at these Sarah Vigils. I'm sure some of the attendees will cheer her on

[JuanCarlosFandango]

Richard-390a0 said:

Obviously hoping a makeover will help her case...

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/isis-bride-s...

Perhaps there's a lesson in here.

When she had all the benefits of life in a liberal western democracy she chose to ditch them for the life of an Islamic fundamentalist nutter.

Now that the benefits have been taken away she is going out of her way to show how she is sane and reasonable after all.

[Vickers_VC10]

Lolwut.

Edited by chris.mod on Tuesday 16th March 15:48

[Bathroom_Security]

Shut up

Edited by chris.mod on Tuesday 16th March 15:49

[ReverendCounter]

Richard-390a0 said:

Obviously hoping a makeover will help her case...

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/isis-bride-s...

Daily Telegraph did the same and today there's another article about someone who claims she can de radicalise her, but that could only be done in the UK.

I never want her back on these shores.

[Captain Raymond Holt]

Oh dear.

Edited by chris.mod on Tuesday 16th March 15:49

[Northernboy]

Wow, you really aren’t coming across well there.

Edited by chris.mod on Tuesday 16th March 15:50

[jamoor]

Vickers_VC10 said:

Lolwut.

Edited by chris.mod on Tuesday 16th March 15:48

[Northernboy]

jamoor said:

voyds9 said:

I do wonder which would be the top of her list

Sue the UK and return here where she is despised and may well suffer a life of being persecuted

Or go to a country who more understands and shares her views

Which countries want terrorists again?

Iran.

[Northernboy]

Octoposse said:

Worse, removing her citizenship makes "us" look weak, lacking confidence in our democracy and institutions to deal with a young lady who made a terrible decision as a 15 year old.

Edited by Octoposse on Thursday 4th March 22:50

Only to the sort of tosser who’s looking all day long for any reason to do the UK down.

[Northernboy]

chrispmartha said:

Maybe so, just pointing out that the point raised above works both ways, and it's daft.

Who's head did she chop off?

It doesn’t work both ways. It’s perfectly consistent to say that at sixteen you are too young to understand the complexities of government but ok’d enough to know that murdering gays and selling children as sex slaves is wrong.

It is completely unreasonable to argue that at fifteen you have no idea that burning prisoners to death in cages is wrong but that a year later you are equipped to understand the finer points of economic management.

[voyds9]

Mrr T said:

I agree part of being British is tolerance, respect for free speech, and the rule of law. Close the door when you leave.

And yet Scotland has now moved hate crime laws inside of your own house.

[anonymous-user]

It funny how the media changes it's tune.

[Northernboy]

Starfighter said:

Assuming that to be a correct lift from the legislation then I find it frightening that the Home Secretary has the power to remove citizenship with only “reasonable grounds to believe” that a person could get citizenship elsewhere. By the same token my son could have citizenship removed as my FIL is from Ulster so he could claim Irish citizenship.

You’re missing one really quite important fact here though, which is that unless your son is planning on joining a genocidal death cult to take wage war on the UK then no-one’s going to be trying to remove his citizenship.

[Tom Logan]

Northernboy said:

You’re missing one really quite important fact here though, which is that unless your son is planning on joining a genocidal death cult to take wage war on the UK then no-one’s going to be trying to remove his citizenship.

Genocidal death cults? In Ulster?

[Northernboy]

Tom Logan said:

Genocidal death cults? In Ulster?

A fair point, I can’t imagine a religion-based campaign of terror taking off there, we aren’t talking about a sectarian hell like Afghanistan.