Shamima Begum...

[Vipers]

F1GTRUeno said:

Is there not the possibility that you can be intellectually bright enough to get A/A* GCSE's and be people wise-enough to manipulate them knowingly and still be manipulated and foolish yourself?

The those that honestly think that you're capable of making rational decisions at 15/16, how fking old are you? Like you've completely forgotten what it's like to be a teenager or what teenagers are like in general. Even the smart ones are fking idiots.

Hundreds if not thousands 15 year old boys chose to enlist in UK armed forces and made a career out of it, until they raised the school leaving age, in 1976 I believe.

If we let her back we are opening up the flood gates for anyone to change sides, bugger off and do what ever they do knowing they can return back to old brightly and carry on as nothing happened.

In my view she made a decision, we shouldn’t have to put up with her, would you like her as your neighbour.

[PRTVR]

Vipers said:

F1GTRUeno said:

Is there not the possibility that you can be intellectually bright enough to get A/A* GCSE's and be people wise-enough to manipulate them knowingly and still be manipulated and foolish yourself?

The those that honestly think that you're capable of making rational decisions at 15/16, how fking old are you? Like you've completely forgotten what it's like to be a teenager or what teenagers are like in general. Even the smart ones are fking idiots.

Hundreds if not thousands 15 year old boys chose to enlist in UK armed forces and made a career out of it, until they raised the school leaving age, in 1976 I believe.

If we let her back we are opening up the flood gates for anyone to change sides, bugger off and do what ever they do knowing they can return back to old brightly and carry on as nothing happened.

In my view she made a decision, we shouldn’t have to put up with her, would you like her as your neighbour.

In Scotland you can legally vote at 16, so people think thay can make rational decisions at 16.

[McGee_22]

PRTVR said:

In Scotland you can legally vote at 16, so people think thay can make rational decisions at 16.

But according to Scottish Judiciary those same people are not responsible for their decisions until their mid-20's.

[Vipers]

PRTVR said:

In Scotland you can legally vote at 16, so people think thay can make rational decisions at 16.

Yet soft touch for offenders as the brain isn’t fully developed until they are 25 totally nuts north of the border.

Then again watching the clowns in the houses of Parliament the other day makes you wonder how on earth any of them can make a rational decision

[ZedLeg]

Adults get scammed by the dumbest st every single day. Trying to say a child of 14 or 15 is beyond influence is ridiculous.

[98elise]

McGee_22 said:

PRTVR said:

In Scotland you can legally vote at 16, so people think thay can make rational decisions at 16.

But according to Scottish Judiciary those same people are not responsible for their decisions until their mid-20's.

I joined the armed forces at 16. By 22 I was a non commissioned office in charge of a weapons section on an aircraft carrier. Half the pilots on board were under 25 (as was most of the crew)!

[Oliver Hardy]

Isn't there a problem with the law and what is a child and what is not, one minute they are a child as they are under 18 the next they can drive, have sex, they are criminally responsible at 10, can work at 14, can enter into a contract at seven, but don't have to stick to it, if they damage property they are responsible at any age (I think I am right in that one), if labour gets in they will be able to vote at 16 too.

Here is a story of a 16 year old who wondered off got into trouble and sadly died, it was decided he was unlawfully killed????

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/22/be...

Edited by Oliver Hardy on Wednesday 28th February 12:24

[pork911]

98elise said:

McGee_22 said:

PRTVR said:

In Scotland you can legally vote at 16, so people think thay can make rational decisions at 16.

But according to Scottish Judiciary those same people are not responsible for their decisions until their mid-20's.

I joined the armed forces at 16. By 22 I was a non commissioned office in charge of a weapons section on an aircraft carrier. Half the pilots on board were under 25 (as was most of the crew)!

rational?

[turbobloke]

pork911 said:

98elise said:

McGee_22 said:

PRTVR said:

In Scotland you can legally vote at 16, so people think thay can make rational decisions at 16.

But according to Scottish Judiciary those same people are not responsible for their decisions until their mid-20's.

I joined the armed forces at 16. By 22 I was a non commissioned office in charge of a weapons section on an aircraft carrier. Half the pilots on board were under 25 (as was most of the crew)!

rational?

[mattyn1]

98elise said:

I joined the armed forces at 16. By 22 I was a non commissioned office in charge of a weapons section on an aircraft carrier. Half the pilots on board were under 25 (as was most of the crew)!

Bloody Tiffs!!! When did you join?

[Vipers]

98elise said:

McGee_22 said:

PRTVR said:

In Scotland you can legally vote at 16, so people think thay can make rational decisions at 16.

But according to Scottish Judiciary those same people are not responsible for their decisions until their mid-20's.

I joined the armed forces at 16. By 22 I was a non commissioned office in charge of a weapons section on an aircraft carrier. Half the pilots on board were under 25 (as was most of the crew)!

Same here joined at 15.

[AceRockatansky]

Vipers said:

98elise said:

McGee_22 said:

PRTVR said:

In Scotland you can legally vote at 16, so people think thay can make rational decisions at 16.

But according to Scottish Judiciary those same people are not responsible for their decisions until their mid-20's.

I joined the armed forces at 16. By 22 I was a non commissioned office in charge of a weapons section on an aircraft carrier. Half the pilots on board were under 25 (as was most of the crew)!

Same here joined at 15.

I joined the regs at 18, but loads of young lads were AT (apprentice). Sure it was 16-18.

This would have been around '96.

[McGee_22]

AceRockatansky said:

Vipers said:

98elise said:

McGee_22 said:

PRTVR said:

In Scotland you can legally vote at 16, so people think thay can make rational decisions at 16.

But according to Scottish Judiciary those same people are not responsible for their decisions until their mid-20's.

I joined the armed forces at 16. By 22 I was a non commissioned office in charge of a weapons section on an aircraft carrier. Half the pilots on board were under 25 (as was most of the crew)!

Same here joined at 15.

I joined the regs at 18, but loads of young lads were AT (apprentice). Sure it was 16-18.

This would have been around '96.

Joined in 1985 at 17, PO in 1990 and Chief in 1992. Qualified Cat B in 1991 and became the knob on the panel. Next promotion wouldn't have been until I was 34, another 10 years, so I left in 1996.

[Trax]

Vipers said:

F1GTRUeno said:

Is there not the possibility that you can be intellectually bright enough to get A/A* GCSE's and be people wise-enough to manipulate them knowingly and still be manipulated and foolish yourself?

The those that honestly think that you're capable of making rational decisions at 15/16, how fking old are you? Like you've completely forgotten what it's like to be a teenager or what teenagers are like in general. Even the smart ones are fking idiots.

Hundreds if not thousands 15 year old boys chose to enlist in UK armed forces and made a career out of it, until they raised the school leaving age, in 1976 I believe.

If we let her back we are opening up the flood gates for anyone to change sides, bugger off and do what ever they do knowing they can return back to old brightly and carry on as nothing happened.

In my view she made a decision, we shouldn’t have to put up with her, would you like her as your neighbour.

He will be saying poor Thompson and Venables were hard done by, taking their liberty away and all that..... being only 10 when they murdered.

[Rufus Stone]

Trax said:

He will be saying poor Thompson and Venables were hard done by, taking their liberty away and all that..... being only 10 when they murdered.

A pathetic and ridiculous compsrison.