Ethiopian plane crash

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Penelope Stopit

5,468 posts

57 months

Sunday 29th September
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El stovey said:
Penelope Stopit said:
bhstewie said:
Cracks found now.

https://komonews.com/news/local/exclusive-unexpect...

Again to stress I have no idea how "every day" this kind of thing actually is v things appearing on news sites simply as Boeing are in the spotlight.
You almost fooled me with this. Not good

This issue does not affect any 737 MAX airplanes or the P-8 Poseidon," a Boeing spokesperson wrote.
An exciting story on there about RR Trent parts “raining down” on an Italian city


https://komonews.com/news/nation-world/debris-from...
Frightening event

Safer in a aeroplane than on the ground

George Smiley

3,265 posts

29 months

Sunday 29th September
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Misleading also for anyone to suggest the cracks aren’t linked to the max which uses the same airframe with some tweaks

Cupramax

8,527 posts

200 months

Sunday 29th September
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Yeah because it really doesn’t matter if the NG 737 has a potentially catastrophic fault with how the wings attach to the fuselage hehe what could possibly go wrong.

Penelope Stopit

5,468 posts

57 months

Sunday 29th September
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George Smiley said:
Misleading also for anyone to suggest the cracks aren’t linked to the max which uses the same airframe with some tweaks
Can't begin to try and understand this but worth asking

What do you mean?

El stovey

29,034 posts

211 months

Sunday 29th September
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Penelope Stopit said:
Can't begin to try and understand this but worth asking

What do you mean?
He’s saying Boeing are misleading us and the issue will likely also affect the 737max despite what Boeing is saying.

It’s not necessary the case though as there’s loads of combinations of wings and winglets on 737s and 737NGs depending on whether they were made with winglets or as an aftermarket add on like some of the 737 NG models were.

So Boeing might be right when they say a problem affecting some 737NG wings might not affect the 737 MAX.

George Smiley

3,265 posts

29 months

Sunday 29th September
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Would you trust what they say?

I think their PR guy used to work for Sadam

Penelope Stopit

5,468 posts

57 months

Sunday 29th September
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El stovey said:
Penelope Stopit said:
Can't begin to try and understand this but worth asking

What do you mean?
He’s saying Boeing are misleading us and the issue will likely also affect the 737max despite what Boeing is saying.

It’s not necessary the case though as there’s loads of combinations of wings and winglets on 737s and 737NGs depending on whether they were made with winglets or as an aftermarket add on like some of the 737 NG models were.

So Boeing might be right when they say a problem affecting some 737NG wings might not affect the 737 MAX.
Ok then, thank you

Penelope Stopit

5,468 posts

57 months

Sunday 29th September
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George Smiley said:
Would you trust what they say?

I think their PR guy used to work for Sadam
I think I've got it

2fast748

573 posts

143 months

Tuesday 1st October
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Cupramax

8,527 posts

200 months

Wednesday 9th October
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Some good info on the 737NG pickling fork issue for anyone interested...

https://youtu.be/HqR55tfIr7Y

FourWheelDrift

78,648 posts

232 months

Monday 14th October
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Cupramax said:
Some good info on the 737NG pickling fork issue for anyone interested...

https://youtu.be/HqR55tfIr7Y
Cracks found in 38 of the 810 tested - https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-boeing-airpl...

George Smiley

3,265 posts

29 months

Monday 14th October
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FourWheelDrift said:
Cracks found in 38 of the 810 tested - https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-boeing-airpl...
I wonder what a full X-ray of both airbus and Boeing carbon parts would show

MB140

1,906 posts

51 months

Monday 14th October
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George Smiley said:
I wonder what a full X-ray of both airbus and Boeing carbon parts would show
Cracks in main spars I would think are more common than you would imagine. When I worked Nimrod R1 (de-haviland comet) all of the planes had plates and reinforcement on the wing spars and associated root box. They were all low hours.

Current aircraft I fly on only 1 out of 6 hasn’t had spar repairs carried out. There all very low hours compared to physical age again. It’s the whole point of schedule maintenance and NDT.

It’s not good I agree but I doubt it’s as uncommon as most people would be aware of. The military aircraft I have worked/flown on are all low hours compared to physical age. There all well over serviced and maintained.

Civie aircraft are flogged to death with minimum maintenance, especially short haul aircraft doing multiple takeoff/landing pressurisation/ depressurisation cycles. That really does hammer the airframe. Flying along straight and level is really minimum stress levels.

George Smiley

3,265 posts

29 months

Monday 14th October
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Whilst I was at airbus one of the delaying factors on the 380 was the agreement of how to inspect the wings and tail without issuing expensive scanners

Trouble with cf, it goes from structure to broke with very little notice.

tight fart

1,304 posts

221 months

Monday 21st October
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Has anyone watched the Al Jazera documentry on Boeing?
Talking to a 737 pilot today and he recomended it.

MB140

1,906 posts

51 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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Boeing prediction for return to flight of 737 max.

Boeing expects 737 Max to fly again by New Year https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50151573

George Smiley

3,265 posts

29 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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MB140 said:
Boeing prediction for return to flight of 737 max.

Boeing expects 737 Max to fly again by New Year https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50151573
More chance of brexit

Speed 3

2,650 posts

67 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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Will be interesting to see SouthWest's position given they drove the common type and no re-training but now employ the ex-Boeing guy involved in textgate.

Europa1

9,193 posts

136 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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George Smiley said:
MB140 said:
Boeing prediction for return to flight of 737 max.

Boeing expects 737 Max to fly again by New Year https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50151573
More chance of brexit
Didn't they originally predict April-May of this year? (apologies if it's in the article, I'm cooking supper so didn't read it)

scottydoesntknow

343 posts

5 months

Thursday 31st October
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Cupramax said:
Some good info on the 737NG pickling fork issue for anyone interested...

https://youtu.be/HqR55tfIr7Y
Qantas have found issues on an aircraft with 27,000 cycles (FAA mandated checks on NGs with 30k cycles and above).

https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/qantas-southwest...