Mass shooting in NZ mosque
Discussion
j_4m said:
http://www.socialmedicine.info/index.php/socialmed...
In 2008 a study in Pittsburgh found that 79% of firearms involved in crime were illegally held.
https://city.milwaukee.gov/ImageLibrary/Groups/cit...
A similar study in 2009, Milwaukee, found that over half of all the victims had previous with the police.
I don't deny that mass shootings are carried about by legally held firearms, most are. Rampage shootings (and not mass shootings, which the US defines as four or more victims and includes lots of gang violence) account for a tiny fraction of murder in the US.
What's their definition of 'illegally held' though? In the US, some nutty kid taking his mother or fathers firearm would be considered 'illegally held' and it completely ignores the ease of access they had to the firearm to begin with. In 2008 a study in Pittsburgh found that 79% of firearms involved in crime were illegally held.
https://city.milwaukee.gov/ImageLibrary/Groups/cit...
A similar study in 2009, Milwaukee, found that over half of all the victims had previous with the police.
I don't deny that mass shootings are carried about by legally held firearms, most are. Rampage shootings (and not mass shootings, which the US defines as four or more victims and includes lots of gang violence) account for a tiny fraction of murder in the US.
TTwiggy said:
Brads67 said:
Yeh cause mass gunfights breakout all the time. Oh no, wait ! ,, they don't.
The logical fail here is that if you have everyone armed, you create a mass gunfight. One 'bad' guy walks into a shopping mall and starts shooting. One 'good' guy sees him and returns fire. A bunch of other 'good' guys hear gunfire and come running, weapons at the ready. How do they know who to shoot at? This would be hard enough in normal circumstances, throw in one of the highest-stress environments that any untrained person is likely to experience and it's a recipe for disaster. Trained soldiers shoot at their own comrades sometimes, and they're all wearing a uniform!Where CW / OW carry is legal, not everyone carries or is armed. The thing is though, you don't know who is or isn't, so who do you mug / attack?
And if something like this happens and there are 20 people watching (or 50 people involved) and 1 of those people is armed, you stand a better chance of the bad guy getting dropped before getting through the lot as you would with no one armed.
Thesprucegoose said:
countrywide is what i put as you stated when you drill down on the statistics, felons are the biggest perp, which is unfounded on all current countrywide studies. This is most likely due to not being recorded, ,so you can't say either way.
Fair point. The information will be somewhere, state by state you can see that the perpetrators and victims of gun crime generally have an existing rap sheet. Rampage shooters not so much. They’re two totally different demographics and the former is largely ignored because they’re less sensational, but they kill orders of magnitude more people.Anybody intrested, then try a wee bit of detective work.
type into google NZ shootings
then when search comes up, go t,tools
then select a custom setting
the calender is at the left, with a v , click this to put dates in
put in 6 to 7 th march, see what comes up,
then ask yer selves some questions
like alot of things, things dont appear as told
GT6M said:
Anybody intrested, then try a wee bit of detective work.
type into google NZ shootings
then when search comes up, go t,tools
then select a custom setting
the calender is at the left, with a v , click this to put dates in
put in 6 to 7 th march, see what comes up,
then ask yer selves some questions
like alot of things, things dont appear as told
type into google NZ shootings
then when search comes up, go t,tools
then select a custom setting
the calender is at the left, with a v , click this to put dates in
put in 6 to 7 th march, see what comes up,
then ask yer selves some questions
like alot of things, things dont appear as told
I think the poster's tinfoil hat is a little tight...
There are reports of a couple of shootings in NZ (no victims, just shots fired) and a misleading date on a story. The headline on the linked page is from the 6th, but it has a "most viewed" section on the page which, not surprisingly, has the Mosque shooting.
GT6M said:
I think the poster's tinfoil hat is a little tight
really
Please explain how a time stamp can be altered, or configured differently
Or does one take every thing thats reported as gospel
What are you suggesting has happened? really
Please explain how a time stamp can be altered, or configured differently
Or does one take every thing thats reported as gospel
edit: I have just twigged
Is the poster suggesting that there are some reports that are date stamped for a different day?
We're gonna need a real intellectual heavyweight to work that one out.
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 26th March 20:18
rscott said:
GT6M said:
Anybody intrested, then try a wee bit of detective work.
type into google NZ shootings
then when search comes up, go t,tools
then select a custom setting
the calender is at the left, with a v , click this to put dates in
put in 6 to 7 th march, see what comes up,
then ask yer selves some questions
like alot of things, things dont appear as told
type into google NZ shootings
then when search comes up, go t,tools
then select a custom setting
the calender is at the left, with a v , click this to put dates in
put in 6 to 7 th march, see what comes up,
then ask yer selves some questions
like alot of things, things dont appear as told
I think the poster's tinfoil hat is a little tight...
There are reports of a couple of shootings in NZ (no victims, just shots fired) and a misleading date on a story. The headline on the linked page is from the 6th, but it has a "most viewed" section on the page which, not surprisingly, has the Mosque shooting.
FN2TypeR said:
Incoming "false flag" accusations!
Way ahead of youhttps://twitter.com/johnpaulpagano/status/11105798...
A Winner Is You said:
FN2TypeR said:
Incoming "false flag" accusations!
Way ahead of youhttps://twitter.com/johnpaulpagano/status/11105798...
A Winner Is You said:
Don't think that's a false flag is it?
Some folk just dont get it, or able find a custom setting or range !!
Computers rarely make mistakes, but people do
for your info,
Time stamps are done by computers,and that is one thing computers are very good at. Their clocks are almost never wrong. What this indicates is that the event had been set-up in advance, with press releases sent out days before. The mistake made here was not a computer mistake. It was a human error, since when the news was
published on the web by these outlets, the tech was supposed to resave it on the date of publication,which would change the date to that date. Instead, the tech just pushed print, which kept the date of receipt on the release. This also explains how worldwide news is able to be reported so quickly: it is pre-released. It explains how Tracy Withers at Bloomberg was able to file a report on Christchurch within minutes of its happening. Her report had been supplied to her days earlier, and all she had to dois put her name on it and press send. But, as we have seen, these outlets get impatient to scoop one another in reporting the latest fake event, and they end up publishing before it would be humanly possible to do so, given a real event.
Still think its a FF, then must have been took in by all the true news out there that the bbc,fox,cnn an the like spew
Just try and look past the MSM news
after all, Our government,or the french, especially the Yanks dont tell lies do they .
Computers rarely make mistakes, but people do
for your info,
Time stamps are done by computers,and that is one thing computers are very good at. Their clocks are almost never wrong. What this indicates is that the event had been set-up in advance, with press releases sent out days before. The mistake made here was not a computer mistake. It was a human error, since when the news was
published on the web by these outlets, the tech was supposed to resave it on the date of publication,which would change the date to that date. Instead, the tech just pushed print, which kept the date of receipt on the release. This also explains how worldwide news is able to be reported so quickly: it is pre-released. It explains how Tracy Withers at Bloomberg was able to file a report on Christchurch within minutes of its happening. Her report had been supplied to her days earlier, and all she had to dois put her name on it and press send. But, as we have seen, these outlets get impatient to scoop one another in reporting the latest fake event, and they end up publishing before it would be humanly possible to do so, given a real event.
Still think its a FF, then must have been took in by all the true news out there that the bbc,fox,cnn an the like spew
Just try and look past the MSM news
after all, Our government,or the french, especially the Yanks dont tell lies do they .
GT6M said:
Some folk just dont get it, or able find a custom setting or range !!
Computers rarely make mistakes, but people do
for your info,
Time stamps are done by computers,and that is one thing computers are very good at. Their clocks are almost never wrong. What this indicates is that the event had been set-up in advance, with press releases sent out days before. The mistake made here was not a computer mistake. It was a human error, since when the news was
published on the web by these outlets, the tech was supposed to resave it on the date of publication,which would change the date to that date. Instead, the tech just pushed print, which kept the date of receipt on the release. This also explains how worldwide news is able to be reported so quickly: it is pre-released. It explains how Tracy Withers at Bloomberg was able to file a report on Christchurch within minutes of its happening. Her report had been supplied to her days earlier, and all she had to dois put her name on it and press send. But, as we have seen, these outlets get impatient to scoop one another in reporting the latest fake event, and they end up publishing before it would be humanly possible to do so, given a real event.
Still think its a FF, then must have been took in by all the true news out there that the bbc,fox,cnn an the like spew
Just try and look past the MSM news
after all, Our government,or the french, especially the Yanks dont tell lies do they .
BatsComputers rarely make mistakes, but people do
for your info,
Time stamps are done by computers,and that is one thing computers are very good at. Their clocks are almost never wrong. What this indicates is that the event had been set-up in advance, with press releases sent out days before. The mistake made here was not a computer mistake. It was a human error, since when the news was
published on the web by these outlets, the tech was supposed to resave it on the date of publication,which would change the date to that date. Instead, the tech just pushed print, which kept the date of receipt on the release. This also explains how worldwide news is able to be reported so quickly: it is pre-released. It explains how Tracy Withers at Bloomberg was able to file a report on Christchurch within minutes of its happening. Her report had been supplied to her days earlier, and all she had to dois put her name on it and press send. But, as we have seen, these outlets get impatient to scoop one another in reporting the latest fake event, and they end up publishing before it would be humanly possible to do so, given a real event.
Still think its a FF, then must have been took in by all the true news out there that the bbc,fox,cnn an the like spew
Just try and look past the MSM news
after all, Our government,or the french, especially the Yanks dont tell lies do they .
t mental.Brooking10 said:
GT6M said:
Some folk just dont get it, or able find a custom setting or range !!
Computers rarely make mistakes, but people do
for your info,
Time stamps are done by computers,and that is one thing computers are very good at. Their clocks are almost never wrong. What this indicates is that the event had been set-up in advance, with press releases sent out days before. The mistake made here was not a computer mistake. It was a human error, since when the news was
published on the web by these outlets, the tech was supposed to resave it on the date of publication,which would change the date to that date. Instead, the tech just pushed print, which kept the date of receipt on the release. This also explains how worldwide news is able to be reported so quickly: it is pre-released. It explains how Tracy Withers at Bloomberg was able to file a report on Christchurch within minutes of its happening. Her report had been supplied to her days earlier, and all she had to dois put her name on it and press send. But, as we have seen, these outlets get impatient to scoop one another in reporting the latest fake event, and they end up publishing before it would be humanly possible to do so, given a real event.
Still think its a FF, then must have been took in by all the true news out there that the bbc,fox,cnn an the like spew
Just try and look past the MSM news
after all, Our government,or the french, especially the Yanks dont tell lies do they .
BatsComputers rarely make mistakes, but people do
for your info,
Time stamps are done by computers,and that is one thing computers are very good at. Their clocks are almost never wrong. What this indicates is that the event had been set-up in advance, with press releases sent out days before. The mistake made here was not a computer mistake. It was a human error, since when the news was
published on the web by these outlets, the tech was supposed to resave it on the date of publication,which would change the date to that date. Instead, the tech just pushed print, which kept the date of receipt on the release. This also explains how worldwide news is able to be reported so quickly: it is pre-released. It explains how Tracy Withers at Bloomberg was able to file a report on Christchurch within minutes of its happening. Her report had been supplied to her days earlier, and all she had to dois put her name on it and press send. But, as we have seen, these outlets get impatient to scoop one another in reporting the latest fake event, and they end up publishing before it would be humanly possible to do so, given a real event.
Still think its a FF, then must have been took in by all the true news out there that the bbc,fox,cnn an the like spew
Just try and look past the MSM news
after all, Our government,or the french, especially the Yanks dont tell lies do they .
t mental.GT6M said:
Some folk just dont get it, or able find a custom setting or range !!
Computers rarely make mistakes, but people do
Still think its a FF, then must have been took in by all the true news out there that the bbc,fox,cnn an the like spew
Just try and look past the MSM news
after all, Our government,or the french, especially the Yanks dont tell lies do they .
What do you think happened?Computers rarely make mistakes, but people do
Still think its a FF, then must have been took in by all the true news out there that the bbc,fox,cnn an the like spew
Just try and look past the MSM news
after all, Our government,or the french, especially the Yanks dont tell lies do they .
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