Mass shooting in NZ mosque

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Guvernator

13,156 posts

165 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Europa1 said:
A few posters have said they were sent a link to the video. I cannot understand the mentality of people who would send it. "I've just watched a video of a massacre of innocent people; I know, I'll send it to my mate..."
I actually had a go at the two people who sent it to me. Send me a link to the news item if you want me to be aware of it but why help to spread this sickos video. What on earth would make them think I'd want to watch something like that? Have people become so inured to violence that they can watch this without feeling sick or think other people would want to see it?

I despair for humanity sometimes.

Henners

12,230 posts

194 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Just seen one of the stills of a rifle in the boot of his car - with dates of ‘historic christian battles’ scrawled all over it.

Complete nut job.

chunder27

2,309 posts

208 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Had some interesting discussion about this with lefty friends on facebook.

One of them mentioned that the guy was a sick whatever, so I let the initial comments die down before posting something like, "this is no different to an Islamist driving a truck into a group of holidaymakers, or blowing up a bomb at a concert. Whilst also mentioning the loss of life was awful, guy was clearly nuts etc. Both are acts of terror, one targets the West, another targets Muslims. What's the difference asked I?

Both are designed to target the innocent, to shock, carried out by hugely twisted and subhuman people who have a twisted sense of belief.

Yet I was labelled a racist. Sticking up for the extreme right wing.

Interesting how simply pointing out that terror is terror on both sides labels someone who does that as an extremist themselves.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Seriously?

Superflow

1,399 posts

132 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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What the liberal elite are in denial about is that it is their own policies that have brought about the rise in far right activism/Trump/Brexit etc. and now we are seeing the consequences on a global scale.

Be careful what you wish for.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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he played a selection of music on his stream, like remove kebab, a song about ethnic cleansing directed against Bosnian Turks .

he was so callous, shooting everyone, even a brave Muslim had a go but to no avail, sickening what he did, can never be defended.

Edited by Thesprucegoose on Friday 15th March 18:27

Down and out

2,700 posts

64 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Superflow said:
What the liberal elite are in denial about is that it is their own policies that have brought about the rise in far right activism/Trump/Brexit etc. and now we are seeing the consequences on a global scale.

Be careful what you wish for.
Absolutely correct. Good luck with getting that across on here though.

macushla

1,135 posts

66 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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chunder27 said:
Had some interesting discussion about this with lefty friends on facebook.

One of them mentioned that the guy was a sick whatever, so I let the initial comments die down before posting something like, "this is no different to an Islamist driving a truck into a group of holidaymakers, or blowing up a bomb at a concert. Whilst also mentioning the loss of life was awful, guy was clearly nuts etc. Both are acts of terror, one targets the West, another targets Muslims. What's the difference asked I?

Both are designed to target the innocent, to shock, carried out by hugely twisted and subhuman people who have a twisted sense of belief.

Yet I was labelled a racist. Sticking up for the extreme right wing.

Interesting how simply pointing out that terror is terror on both sides labels someone who does that as an extremist themselves.
You have got to be fking joking? You seriously think that’s an appropriate comment?

Just to show you how it’s not. During the last loony ISIS attack did you say “Hey this is no different to the IRA blowing up a pub full of people in the 1970s”

You really are a disgrace with comments like that. Why the need for the ‘lefty’ comment as well?


Edited by macushla on Friday 15th March 18:38

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

99 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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chunder27 said:
Had some interesting discussion about this with lefty friends on facebook.

One of them mentioned that the guy was a sick whatever, so I let the initial comments die down before posting something like, "this is no different to an Islamist driving a truck into a group of holidaymakers, or blowing up a bomb at a concert. Whilst also mentioning the loss of life was awful, guy was clearly nuts etc. Both are acts of terror, one targets the West, another targets Muslims. What's the difference asked I?

Both are designed to target the innocent, to shock, carried out by hugely twisted and subhuman people who have a twisted sense of belief.

Yet I was labelled a racist. Sticking up for the extreme right wing.

Interesting how simply pointing out that terror is terror on both sides labels someone who does that as an extremist themselves.
On 5Live today - muslims get shot up, muslim are victims. Absolutely. muslims shoot up anyone else, muslims are victims as they've been disenfranchised, and in the case of the Charlie Hebdo cartoons, provoked.

That's not the way to engage the majority.


Resolutionary

1,259 posts

171 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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chunder27 said:
Had some interesting discussion about this with lefty friends on facebook.

One of them mentioned that the guy was a sick whatever, so I let the initial comments die down before posting something like, "this is no different to an Islamist driving a truck into a group of holidaymakers, or blowing up a bomb at a concert. Whilst also mentioning the loss of life was awful, guy was clearly nuts etc. Both are acts of terror, one targets the West, another targets Muslims. What's the difference asked I?

Both are designed to target the innocent, to shock, carried out by hugely twisted and subhuman people who have a twisted sense of belief.

Yet I was labelled a racist. Sticking up for the extreme right wing.

Interesting how simply pointing out that terror is terror on both sides labels someone who does that as an extremist themselves.
Why don't you post a screenshot here for everyone to review?

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Mothersruin said:
On 5Live today - muslims get shot up, muslim are victims. Absolutely. muslims shoot up anyone else, muslims are victims as they've been disenfranchised, and in the case of the Charlie Hebdo cartoons, provoked.

That's not the way to engage the majority.
That was the BBC saying that was it ?



anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Down and out said:
Superflow said:
What the liberal elite are in denial about is that it is their own policies that have brought about the rise in far right activism/Trump/Brexit etc. and now we are seeing the consequences on a global scale.

Be careful what you wish for.
Absolutely correct. Good luck with getting that across on here though.
We’re all the “Liberal Elite” don’t you know.

biglaugh

simoid

19,772 posts

158 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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macushla said:
You have got to be fking joking? You seriously think that’s an appropriate comment?

Just to show you how it’s not. During the last loony ISIS attack did you say “Hey this is no different to the IRA blowing up a pub full of people in the 1970s”

You really are a disgrace with comments like that. Why the need for the ‘lefty’ comment as well?


Edited by macushla on Friday 15th March 18:38
I can see where the line of thought is:

Muslim attacks folk = religious extremism
White attacks folk = ‘nutter’

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Superflow said:
Pretty shocking though not as much as finding out New Zealand has the internet.

World needs to wake up and realise what is really happening,or they best double up on the body bags.
The entire city of Christchurch has gigabit fiber...

As for body bags let's hope we don't need any more. Wake up and realise what there's a very small number of extremist nutters? They are not us.

Randy Winkman

16,137 posts

189 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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simoid said:
macushla said:
You have got to be fking joking? You seriously think that’s an appropriate comment?

Just to show you how it’s not. During the last loony ISIS attack did you say “Hey this is no different to the IRA blowing up a pub full of people in the 1970s”

You really are a disgrace with comments like that. Why the need for the ‘lefty’ comment as well?


Edited by macushla on Friday 15th March 18:38
I can see where the line of thought is:

Muslim attacks folk = religious extremism
White attacks folk = ‘nutter’
I'm with Macushia. Why was the reply not along the lines of "I agree, it's f*****g terrible"? Why the other stuff? Who cares at that point?

Down and out

2,700 posts

64 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Brooking10 said:
We’re all the “Liberal Elite” don’t you know.

biglaugh
Maybe not elite.

1430

81 posts

117 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Don't you just love multiculturalism...

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Down and out said:
Brooking10 said:
We’re all the “Liberal Elite” don’t you know.

biglaugh
Maybe not elite.
It’s always very heartening when an idiot thinks Liberal is an insult.

Right now I’m extremely heartened smile


Superflow

1,399 posts

132 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Brooking10 said:
We’re all the “Liberal Elite” don’t you know.

biglaugh
I think you know exactly the point i was making ,don't lower yourself into the 'I will try and belittle this individual as I disagree and have no credible response' category ,as it just makes you look foolish to all.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Superflow said:
Brooking10 said:
We’re all the “Liberal Elite” don’t you know.

biglaugh
I think you know exactly the point i was making ,don't lower yourself into the 'I will try and belittle this individual as I disagree and have no credible response' category ,as it just makes you look foolish to all.
Many liberal people have problems with the policies of The Liberal Elite.

Which policy would you say was at fault for this?