Mass shooting in NZ mosque

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anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Superflow said:
Brooking10 said:
We’re all the “Liberal Elite” don’t you know.

biglaugh
I think you know exactly the point i was making ,don't lower yourself into the 'I will try and belittle this individual as I disagree and have no credible response' category ,as it just makes you look foolish to all.
Rest easy, nobody needs to try to in any way belittle you.




Superflow

1,421 posts

133 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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RobDickinson said:
The entire city of Christchurch has gigabit fiber...

As for body bags let's hope we don't need any more. Wake up and realise what there's a very small number of extremist nutters? They are not us.
I was joking.

We will see how peaceful the immigrants are in the coming years,I really hope you are right.

Salmonofdoubt

1,413 posts

69 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Brooking10 said:
Down and out said:
Superflow said:
What the liberal elite are in denial about is that it is their own policies that have brought about the rise in far right activism/Trump/Brexit etc. and now we are seeing the consequences on a global scale.

Be careful what you wish for.
Absolutely correct. Good luck with getting that across on here though.
We’re all the “Liberal Elite” don’t you know.

biglaugh
I think there’s some truth in this. Globalism has created many left behind people, those who aren’t able to buy the shiny things on tv without high priced credit, who can’t imagine a life where you buy what you want when you want it. The sort of manual work they’re capable of either doesn’t exist or doesn’t reward the same way it did when their parents and grandparents were working.

I’m not sure who exactly the liberal elite are, but certainly the way western societies have moved is largely to a way of life where some are capable of being very wealthy with seemingly no effort because of who they are/know. Others work hard and attain the same status. But in countries like the UK there are whole communites who can’t seem to break the cycle or unemployment. These communities are where you’ll find poverty, leave voters and lots of intolerance and racism.

There’s a fair chance people in your street are cheering this attack, they’re posting hateful comments online and getting ideas about similar things. Meanwhile politicians do very little because they understand little outside their bubbles. There’s an arrogant know it all attitude from politics and people like Trump, La Pen, Farage, Yaxley Lennon have instead seized on the inconvenient truths that politicians ignore, create strawmen and build careers from it.

We could really do with some rational straight talking political leaders who actually make things happen and some unbiased media coverage that’s more concerned with facts than politics and division.

Down and out

2,700 posts

65 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Brooking10 said:
It’s always very heartening when an idiot thinks Liberal is an insult.

Right now I’m extremely heartened smile
I didn't mean it as an insult, looks like an idiot thought it was.

Down and out

2,700 posts

65 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Salmonofdoubt said:
I think there’s some truth in this. Globalism has created many left behind people, those who aren’t able to buy the shiny things on tv without high priced credit, who can’t imagine a life where you buy what you want when you want it. The sort of manual work they’re capable of either doesn’t exist or doesn’t reward the same way it did when their parents and grandparents were working.

I’m not sure who exactly the liberal elite are, but certainly the way western societies have moved is largely to a way of life where some are capable of being very wealthy with seemingly no effort because of who they are/know. Others work hard and attain the same status. But in countries like the UK there are whole communites who can’t seem to break the cycle or unemployment. These communities are where you’ll find poverty, leave voters and lots of intolerance and racism.

There’s a fair chance people in your street are cheering this attack, they’re posting hateful comments online and getting ideas about similar things. Meanwhile politicians do very little because they understand little outside their bubbles. There’s an arrogant know it all attitude from politics and people like Trump, La Pen, Farage, Yaxley Lennon have instead seized on the inconvenient truths that politicians ignore, create strawmen and build careers from it.

We could really do with some rational straight talking political leaders who actually make things happen and some unbiased media coverage that’s more concerned with facts than politics and division.
Whether you hate her or love her (same usual posters incoming) there's an interview between Hopkins and Hislop where she remarks that he is the Frankenstein and she is the monster he created .

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Down and out said:
Brooking10 said:
It’s always very heartening when an idiot thinks Liberal is an insult.

Right now I’m extremely heartened smile
I didn't mean it as an insult, looks like an idiot thought it was.
Of course you didn’t chief

Just like you never have in any of your PH identities smile



Down and out

2,700 posts

65 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Brooking10 said:
Of course you didn’t chief

Just like you never have in any of your PH identities smile
At least you know where you are in the pecking order.

SWoll

18,458 posts

259 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Salmonofdoubt said:
There’s a fair chance people in your street are cheering this attack, they’re posting hateful comments online and getting ideas about similar things.
I think that is a ridiculous statement TBH.

Whilst there may be a large number of people who have issues with immigration etc.that's a long way from cheering the slaughter of innocents and considering doing a similar thing.

You must have a very poor opinion of your fellow man?

Edited by SWoll on Friday 15th March 19:52

tangerine_sedge

4,808 posts

219 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Only on PH can a vile attack on a community be blamed on that community.

macushla

1,135 posts

67 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Down and out said:
Whether you hate her or love her (same usual posters incoming) there's an interview between Hopkins and Hislop where she remarks that he is the Frankenstein and she is the monster he created .
She can remark all she likes, but it doesn’t make her right, other than her being a monster of course.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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SWoll said:
Salmonofdoubt said:
There’s a fair chance people in your street are cheering this attack, they’re posting hateful comments online and getting ideas about similar things.
I think that is a ridiculous statement TBH.

Whilst there may be a large number of people who have issues with immigration etc.that's a long way from cheering the slaughter of innocents and considering doing a similar thing.

You must have a very poor opinion of your fellow man?
Quite right.

I know many of the people in my street and none of them are cheering this or “getting ideas about similar things”

God knows what kind of world some posters live in.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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I'd be interested to hear from those in the no which Liberal policy is responsible for this?
Is it migration?

Salmonofdoubt

1,413 posts

69 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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SWoll said:
Salmonofdoubt said:
There’s a fair chance people in your street are cheering this attack, they’re posting hateful comments online and getting ideas about similar things.
I think that is a ridiculous statement TBH.

Whilst there may be a large number of people who have issues with immigration etc.that's a long way from cheering the slaughter of innocents and considering doing a similar thing.

You must have a very poor opinion of your fellow man?
The vile comments on twitter, breitbart, Facebook etc have to be coming from somewhere. My comment wasn't 100% literal, but there are people out there who don't look like they're a threat, they're not part of a group as we know it and they could be your neighbour.

It's not about a poor opinion of my fellow man but a realistic view of our fractured society.

Superflow

1,421 posts

133 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Brooking10 said:
Rest easy, nobody needs to try to in any way belittle you.
Any reason for the animosity? I don't believe we've met before.

No doubt you have me down as a racist living on an estate,believe me you are very,very wrong on both counts.

Could you please tell me what offended you about my post so much ,as you come across as rather unpleasant and a bit odd.

All the best.

Cerdo Espada

432 posts

65 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Brooking10 said:
Cerdo Espada said:
Yawn.
You tired ?

Hard day trolling or just knackered from being generally angry and making yourself look a bit daft again ?

Or maybe yiu’ve Just put in a shift helping the Vicar fix the church roof, what with you being a God fearing man and all ?
Only of your bullst. Change the record.

I realise for people like you that its easy, cool and fashionable to mock a Christian from the safety of your keyboard but honestly have you never felt the urge to criticise a Muslim or mocked their faith ? No ? I thought not.
The frustration must be killing you. Turning you to a big wobbling chunk of gammon. Probably.

1430

81 posts

118 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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SWoll said:
I think that is a ridiculous statement TBH.

Whilst there may be a large number of people who have issues with immigration etc.that's a long way from cheering the slaughter of innocents and considering doing a similar thing.

You must have a very poor opinion of your fellow man?
That's the reality of it, if people really thought like you imagine there would never have been a single war in the history of the world.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Cerdo Espada said:
Only of your bullst. Change the record.

I realise for people like you that its easy, cool and fashionable to mock a Christian from the safety of your keyboard but honestly have you never felt the urge to criticise a Muslim or mocked their faith ? No ? I thought not.
The frustration must be killing you. Turning you to a big wobbling chunk of gammon. Probably.
What flavour of Christian are you, Cerdo?

Sally Army?

Derek Smith

45,739 posts

249 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Down and out said:
Salmonofdoubt said:
I think there’s some truth in this. Globalism has created many left behind people, those who aren’t able to buy the shiny things on tv without high priced credit, who can’t imagine a life where you buy what you want when you want it. The sort of manual work they’re capable of either doesn’t exist or doesn’t reward the same way it did when their parents and grandparents were working.

I’m not sure who exactly the liberal elite are, but certainly the way western societies have moved is largely to a way of life where some are capable of being very wealthy with seemingly no effort because of who they are/know. Others work hard and attain the same status. But in countries like the UK there are whole communites who can’t seem to break the cycle or unemployment. These communities are where you’ll find poverty, leave voters and lots of intolerance and racism.

There’s a fair chance people in your street are cheering this attack, they’re posting hateful comments online and getting ideas about similar things. Meanwhile politicians do very little because they understand little outside their bubbles. There’s an arrogant know it all attitude from politics and people like Trump, La Pen, Farage, Yaxley Lennon have instead seized on the inconvenient truths that politicians ignore, create strawmen and build careers from it.

We could really do with some rational straight talking political leaders who actually make things happen and some unbiased media coverage that’s more concerned with facts than politics and division.
Whether you hate her or love her (same usual posters incoming) there's an interview between Hopkins and Hislop where she remarks that he is the Frankenstein and she is the monster he created .
Down and out said:
Whether you hate her or love her (same usual posters incoming) there's an interview between Hopkins and Hislop where she remarks that he is the Frankenstein and she is the monster he created .
There's a certain truth in what she says. The media gives such people as Hopkins coverage. On the other hand, there are many others who have coped with such attention with a certain dignity that failed Hopkins. Further, she seemed to put a lot of effort into presenting the image that the press supported.

If the implication is that, had it not been for the media, then the far right nutters such as this derelict would not exist, then, I think. there's ample proof that it is untrue. It would appear that this guy has been groomed, as many terrorist have been over the years. They don't think it is right to kill, but they are told it is on a one-to-one.

We've seen it in this country.


SWoll

18,458 posts

259 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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1430 said:
SWoll said:
I think that is a ridiculous statement TBH.

Whilst there may be a large number of people who have issues with immigration etc.that's a long way from cheering the slaughter of innocents and considering doing a similar thing.

You must have a very poor opinion of your fellow man?
That's the reality of it, if people really thought like you imagine there would never have been a single war in the history of the world.
You honestly believe that all over the country 100's of 1000's of people are celebrating this atrocity and wondering how they can get in on the act?

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

245 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Mothersruin said:
On 5Live today - muslims get shot up, muslim are victims. Absolutely. muslims shoot up anyone else, muslims are victims as they've been disenfranchised, and in the case of the Charlie Hebdo cartoons, provoked.

That's not the way to engage the majority.
How would you like them to engage you petal?