Mass shooting in NZ mosque

[scenario8]

GOATever said:

The trouble comes when humans ( try ) to interpret the ( insert mythical sky fairy’s ) will. Human nature is such, that they will find something in their ( insert mythical sky fairy’s ) canon, which justifies their actions. If I was the ( insert mythical sky fairy ) I’d be getting my arse down here to sort it out, before there’s nothing left to sort out.

The guff I’m lectured with too commonly from the Roman variety of Christian prayer leaders is that the one thing (their) God cannot do is remove the will of Man (to act in heinous ways). It’s sub GCSE level horseplop but they get away with it at a local level. No doubt the higher you go within the administration the more academic the horseplop becomes. I’ve no idea how one of my best friends stuck with Theology and got herself a first. The utter garbage she had to sift through. She lost her Catholic faith doing it. Well, let it lapse to “what’s the point?” levels anyway.

I attend church to support my wife, by the way. She thinks almost every word is BS too but she’s Irish and kinda can’t help herself. She knows the Church is a horrid invention, disagrees with almost everything she’s lectured on and simply wants everyone to be nice and for there to be some sort of overall point to life. Which seems harmless enough.

Edited to add that a great many people I’ve met through the Catholic and other Christian churches.are genuinely nice, genuine and loving people who do a lot of Good things in their lives. I respect them for their acts. Which is one reason why I take issue with a very dubious claim by a most unlikely character within this thread to all of a sudden reveal himself to be Christian. I hope to his God my strong suspicion of BS is indeed misplaced.

So strike him down.

Edited by scenario8 on Friday 15th March 21:58

[youngsyr]

ReaperCushions said:

That is truely horrendous.

As I said, even that description doesn't do the full horror justice.

The images and sounds of those events will be with me for a long time.

[Digby]

Never really thought I could watch such a video and then close it and decide what to have for dinner. I guess that's what comes from being surrounded by news and images of death and destruction from pretty much the moment I was born. We were even taught about it. Hey kids, here's a video of a bomb being dropped on Japan.....

I suppose in one way, being desensitised to such things takes away some of the glory that this tt demanded.

I think Carl said it best:

"The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot.

There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.”

I really wish these tossers would stop messing up our pale, blue, dot.

[GOATever]

scenario8 said:

The guff I’m lectured with too commonly from the Roman variety of Christian prayer leaders is that the one thing (their) God cannot do is remove the will of Man (to act in heinous ways). It’s sub GCSE level horseplop but they get away with it at a local level. No doubt the higher you go within the administration the more academic the horseplop becomes. I’ve no idea how one of my best friends stuck with Theology and got herself a first. The utter garbage she had to sift through. She lost her Catholic faith doing it. Well, let it lapse to “what’s the point?” levels anyway.

I attend church to support my wife, by the way. She thinks almost every word is BS too but she’s Irish and kinda can’t help herself. She knows the Church is a horrid invention, disagrees with almost everything she’s lectured on and simply wants everyone to be nice and for there to be some sort of overall point to life. Which seems harmless enough.

One of the religions ( it might be Mormon, I forget ) has it that the ‘war in heaven’ was started because of a disagreement between the chief sky fairy, and his number 2 ( Satan ) about whether or not to grant humans free will. Others have it that it ( the war in heaven ) started, because Satan refused to accept that God was the big billy bks in heaven, and refused to bow to him. Other religions have other interpretations, and this is why I take it about as seriously as Star Wars and Harry Potter.

[Burwood]

youngsyr said:

ReaperCushions said:

That is truely horrendous.

As I said, even that description doesn't do the full horror justice.

The images and sounds of those events will be with me for a long time.

Why watch it? Of course it’s horrendous.

[Mothersruin]

There's a fair few of us that have travelled to the World's aholes and have either had to survive it, or actually been there to make it a better place for the locals, because they're either useless, or just don't know how to make it better.

This latest thing? I'm bored with it - it's just another tedious example of humans being s to other humans because they're s, or at least perceived to be s.

The older I get, the more I like the idea if Amazon, Ocado and even DP fking D. I can get everything delivered to my house without having to speak to a single tt.

The irony of me being in a Mountain Rescue Team is not lost on me, but that's my schnizz. Still trying to work it out. fking hate people but get out of bed at 2am in the sttiest of conditions to go save them at my pleasure. The s.

It's so fking boring.

[scenario8]

Mothersruin said:

There's a fair few of us that have travelled to the World's aholes and have either had to survive it, or actually been there to make it a better place for the locals, because they're either useless, or just don't know how to make it better.

This latest thing? I'm bored with it - it's just another tedious example of humans being s to other humans because they're s, or at least perceived to be s.

The older I get, the more I like the idea if Amazon, Ocado and even DP fking D. I can get everything delivered to my house without having to speak to a single tt.

The irony of me being in a Mountain Rescue Team is not lost on me, but that's my schnizz. Still trying to work it out. fking hate people but get out of bed at 2am in the sttiest of conditions to go save them at my pleasure. The s.

It's so fking boring.

Sorry, what?

FWIW the World is full of nice people. Engage us.

[johnxjsc1985]

scenario8 said:

Sorry, what?

FWIW the World is full of nice people. Engage us.

not even going to qualify it by putting a number on it but the vast majority of people in this world are decent people.
We should always remember this.

[Eric Mc]

I'd even suggest that the vast bulk of people who post on PH are decent people. Just look at the responses to the thread in The Lounge about my late wife.

It's quite heartening - and helps counter posts like that one above.

[limpsfield]

I don’t know why some of you engage with the obvious idiots that post on NPE.

I think the Internet has given a whole range of social outcasts a voice. And a place where they can group together and indulge in some mutual masturbation fest about how they are right and everyone else is wrong. Unfortunately I don’t think this is going to change - we will see more of this.

This ahole today has live streamed what he did for the approval of his fellow internet losers. What a coward.

[limpsfield]

Mothersruin said:

The irony of me being in a Mountain Rescue Team is not lost on me, but that's my schnizz. Still trying to work it out. fking hate people but get out of bed at 2am in the sttiest of conditions to go save them at my pleasure.

Thank you for your service Yellowjack

[Burwood]

Eric Mc said:

I'd even suggest that the vast bulk of people who post on PH are decent people. Just look at the responses to the thread in The Lounge about my late wife.

It's quite heartening - and helps counter posts like that one above.

Very sorry to hear that, Eric. Condolences to you

[anonymous-user]

Mothersruin said:

There's a fair few of us that have travelled to the World's aholes and have either had to survive it, or actually been there to make it a better place for the locals, because they're either useless, or just don't know how to make it better.

This latest thing? I'm bored with it - it's just another tedious example of humans being s to other humans because they're s, or at least perceived to be s.

The older I get, the more I like the idea if Amazon, Ocado and even DP fking D. I can get everything delivered to my house without having to speak to a single tt.

The irony of me being in a Mountain Rescue Team is not lost on me, but that's my schnizz. Still trying to work it out. fking hate people but get out of bed at 2am in the sttiest of conditions to go save them at my pleasure. The s.

It's so fking boring.

Embodying the username tonight then ?

[anonymous-user]

This thread will be gone by the morning.

[Colonial]

Eric Mc said:

I'd even suggest that the vast bulk of people who post on PH are decent people. Just look at the responses to the thread in The Lounge about my late wife.

It's quite heartening - and helps counter posts like that one above.

I'm really sorry to hear that Eric.

My condolences.

[anonymous-user]

Eric Mc said:

I'd even suggest that the vast bulk of people who post on PH are decent people. Just look at the responses to the thread in The Lounge about my late wife.

It's quite heartening - and helps counter posts like that one above.

Eric,

I just looked that thread up, as trite as it may sound I hope that gave you some tiny sense of comfort.

Condolences to you and yours.

[Eric Mc]

Brooking10 said:

Eric,

I just looked that thread up, as trite as it may sound I hope that gave you some tiny sense of comfort.

It certainly did.

[youngsyr]

Burwood said:

youngsyr said:

ReaperCushions said:

That is truely horrendous.

As I said, even that description doesn't do the full horror justice.

The images and sounds of those events will be with me for a long time.

Why watch it? Of course it’s horrendous.

Because, as I've written twice before, to turn away from it is, to me, to dismiss it.

Events like that should shock us and stay with us for a long time. As horrendous as it is to watch it on a video, it is as nothing compared to witnessing it in real life, which again is nothing compared to having a loved one as a victim of such an event.

I watch it to better understand what happened and how, so I may be better informed about what's going on in our world and what I can do to make things even a tiny bit better.

Those images will still be in my mind many months from now. For many others who didn't watch it, they will have forgotten all about it in a couple of weeks.

[macushla]

I’ve just spent the evening down at my local and one of the guys there was talking about how his staff were all huddled round a phone laughing and joking whilst watching this video. He seemed fairly indifferent about them doing it too, which amazed me.

I can’t see any reason why anyone would choose to watch this video, maybe a snippet, but surely any right thinking person would be disgusted by seeing people being murdered and turn it off / stop watching after a few seconds.

The one thing to me that differentiates this from a macro level type of video is the detail. A video of a smart bomb doesn’t show the individuals, it shows a vehicle or a building being destroyed, the A bomb on Hiroshima is a distant mushroom cloud (not sure if the actual bomb is recorded), whereas this is close up of real people dying for real.

One of the most shocking moments for me was when the Twin Towers attack went from a plane hitting a building into seeing people stranded and / or jumping to their deaths. The sight of a person dying should always ram home a tragedy and anyone finding this funny, or gaining any sort of feeling other than revulsion needs to take a long hard look at themselves and their moral compass.

Ultimately there’s no difference, people are dying in both macro and micro even videos, but one should provoke more of a reaction than the other.

[Cerdo Espada]

macushla said:

I’ve just spent the evening down at my local and one of the guys there was talking about how his staff were all huddled round a phone laughing and joking whilst watching this video. He seemed fairly indifferent about them doing it too, which amazed me.

I can’t see any reason why anyone would choose to watch this video, maybe a snippet, but surely any right thinking person would be disgusted by seeing people being murdered and turn it off / stop watching after a few seconds.

The one thing to me that differentiates this from a macro level type of video is the detail. A video of a smart bomb doesn’t show the individuals, it shows a vehicle or a building being destroyed, the A bomb on Hiroshima is a distant mushroom cloud (not sure if the actual bomb is recorded), whereas this is close up of real people dying for real.

One of the most shocking moments for me was when the Twin Towers attack went from a plane hitting a building into seeing people stranded and / or jumping to their deaths. The sight of a person dying should always ram home a tragedy and anyone finding this funny, or gaining any sort of feeling other than revulsion needs to take a long hard look at themselves and their moral compass.

Ultimately there’s no difference, people are dying in both macro and micro even videos, but one should provoke more of a reaction than the other.

I call bullst on your first paragraph. No way were people laughing and joking while watching this.
Its you that wants to provoke a reaction with posts like this.