How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 10)
Discussion
Piha said:
amusingduck said:
Please, if someone really, genuinely does know Faisal, please direct him to the relevant bit of this thread and put him out of his misery. He seems a decent enough bloke, so hopefully he might see the funny side of his name and 'phone number (or lack of) being dragged into the debate. the joke is most certainly not on him, just about him.
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hstewie said:
The absolute clown.hstewie said:Nancy Pelosi confirming that 'no deal' breaches terms of the GFA with the consequence of no US/UK trade deal.
How will the unicornists respond?
Helicopter123 said:
bhstewie said:
The absolute clown.hstewie said:Nancy Pelosi confirming that 'no deal' breaches terms of the GFA with the consequence of no US/UK trade deal.
How will the unicornists respond?
I'm sure one of our resident Brexiteers will be along in a second and shout it's all the fault of the EU.
oyster said:
Despite not being a remainer myself, my pragmatic approach seems to be incurring ire from Brexiteers on here.
Politicians are in the business of getting elected. Their split simply reflects the split in the nation on Brexit. Had the result been 65/35 in favour of leaving, we'd have left by now as they would have less to fear from the 35%.
But it was 52/48, and however binary that might be, politicians' main focus is on getting re-elected. What they are trying to do is make as many people happy as possible, or more likely ps off as few people as possible.
Some of them may decide they would rather ps off the 52% than the 48%, possibly by making a judgement that some of the 52% might stay onside for other reasons (this applies to lots of Labour MPs in leave constituencies).
We do not have proportional representation in this country, percentages matter not, Politicians are in the business of getting elected. Their split simply reflects the split in the nation on Brexit. Had the result been 65/35 in favour of leaving, we'd have left by now as they would have less to fear from the 35%.
But it was 52/48, and however binary that might be, politicians' main focus is on getting re-elected. What they are trying to do is make as many people happy as possible, or more likely p
s off as few people as possible.Some of them may decide they would rather p
s off the 52% than the 48%, possibly by making a judgement that some of the 52% might stay onside for other reasons (this applies to lots of Labour MPs in leave constituencies).lots of MPs are voting against the wishes of there constituents, some have stuck two fingers up to the people who put them in power and really appear not to care about getting re-elected,
if labour politicians believe that it will not effect them they are sadly mistaken, I live in the north east and I believe Labour will suffer as much as the conservatives if we do not leave.
There are a lot of remainers who will be pissed off if we don't leave, go listen to pier's Morgan,
a remainer who believes we need to leave to uphold the democratic process,
it's a complex subject and I think we will get thrown out by the EU because nobody wants to make a decision.
Squiddly Diddly said:
crankedup said:
In which case if you are certain the mods looked at the issue of multiple logins I will not mention it again. I would hate to receive a ban for such a mild posting issue such as this when blatant trolling is evident virtually everyday. Maybe leavers don’t report such activities and take a more robust and less offended approach to forum posting.
BTW you do realise that I have never been banned from posting in all the years I have been a member using the same login from day one to now. Remove the insinuation in your last sentence.
You haven't lived if you haven't been banned at some point.BTW you do realise that I have never been banned from posting in all the years I have been a member using the same login from day one to now. Remove the insinuation in your last sentence.
Helicopter123 said:
Brexit: No deal means hard Irish border, says Selmayr
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47966180
GFA means a 'no deal' brexit will not be accepted by the EU or UK.
Something he said last year FFS! You do realise that there has been a veritable ocean of water gone under the bridge since then?https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47966180
GFA means a 'no deal' brexit will not be accepted by the EU or UK.
WTF are the BBC just reporting this now? I mean, it's not because they have an agenda or anything?
Helicopter123 said:
I repeat, in case you are having some trouble understanding, Faisal has asked me not to post his personal number online, in full or in part.
I'm sure Faisal would have no problem with you posting up a selfie with the pair of you - and a tin of custard.I expect you to come back with a busted flush... (again)
Helicopter123 said:
bhstewie said:
The absolute clown.hstewie said:Nancy Pelosi confirming that 'no deal' breaches terms of the GFA with the consequence of no US/UK trade deal.
How will the unicornists respond?
PRTVR said:
lots of MPs are voting against the wishes of there constituents, some have stuck two fingers up to the people who put them in power and really appear not to care about getting re-elected,
Exactly.For example lets take Steve Baker, MP for High Wycombe. He doesn't exactly seem to be reflecting the views of those who put in power. A majority of the electorate in his constituency voted to remain - https://ig.ft.com/sites/elections/2016/uk/eu-refer...
In one of life's little ironies The Brexit Party doesn't sound very democratic 
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/18/n...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/18/n...
AJL308 said:
Something he said last year FFS! You do realise that there has been a veritable ocean of water gone under the bridge since then?
WTF are the BBC just reporting this now? I mean, it's not because they have an agenda or anything?
they're just trying to defend us against the right wing fanatics who have control over our government.WTF are the BBC just reporting this now? I mean, it's not because they have an agenda or anything?
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: In one of life's little ironies The Brexit Party doesn't sound very democratic
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/18/n...
For the purpose of exactly why the Brexit Party has been formed and launched, I am content with the leadership plans. Poll position to win the European elections, not bad for a political Party that have only been in existence for less than one month https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/18/n...
wc98 said:
Helicopter123 said:
Brexit: No deal means hard Irish border, says Selmayr
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47966180
GFA means a 'no deal' brexit will not be accepted by the EU or UK.
he can go and take a flying fhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47966180
GFA means a 'no deal' brexit will not be accepted by the EU or UK.
k to himself."one of the most powerful officials in the eu" remind me of his route to that position, starting in his home country ? Its seems the only solution at the moment is to make life s
t for everyone.soupdragon1 said:
Regardless of our feelings towards European representatives, we still need to look reality in the face. And the reality is pretty bleak looking right now, no matter what side of the fence you sit on.
Its seems the only solution at the moment is to make life st for everyone.
Not at all sure why you need to be so downbeat. I don't see '......reality looking pretty bleak right now' and nor does anyone else I know. We all recognise that we have a poor bunch of politicians who haven't a clue but as a country we're doing pretty well - despite them.Its seems the only solution at the moment is to make life s
t for everyone.No need for long faces, depression or general unhappiness, that's only appropriate for a load of internet keyboard warriors !
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