Man jailed for sexual activity with fake 19 year old

[vonuber]

dundarach said:

I am both old and not all that good at women pulling...although not completely hopeless

However is it really that hard not to chuck your load immediately, perhaps he should have waited for the second date!

I'll be teaching my son to follow Vincent Vega's advice, go home have a wnk and that's all he's going to do.

God knows what I'll do with my daughter....

Er.. hopefully nothing??

[Burwood]

B'stard Child said:

Brooking10 said:

V8RX7 said:

Baby Shark doo doo doo doo said:

Seems unjust considering she had lied about her age?

Agreed - it looks like the law needs changing

"Under the law there is no defence of mistaken reasonable belief in age when a sex offence complainant is under 13"

My daughter is 11 - a couple of her friends who are over 5' came to a halloween party in makeup, heels, hair etc - could easily have been mistaken for 18+

You are joking surely ?

You genuinely believe that an 11 year old can be mistaken at close quarters (I.e. not over a computer screen) for being aged over 18 ?

It definitely gets harder to tell as you get older

Just like Police officers always seem much younger

I've seen plenty of 15-16 year olds who could pass for 20 with the right amount costume etc but the point is, they still look very young. Any sensible person should be wary.

[Burwood]

Some parents are morons. My wife and kids attended a pool party last summer. One of the girls there was 11. Her mother thought nothing of allowing her to go naked in the pool. There were dozens of families there (and fathers). This girl had boobs and bush. WTF was her mother thinking. If it had been my place I would have told her to get some clothes on.

[dudleybloke]

Will the girl be prosecuted for fraud by misrepresentation?

Of course not.

[SpeedMattersNot]

If you admit to thinking 12 year old girls can look 18 you should be in prison (and hand in your driving license).

[Derek Smith]

Don Roque said:

The article really sticks the boot in, repeatedly referring to 'the child' rather than 'the girl'.

She was a child. That's the point of the legislation.

[anonymous-user]

dudleybloke said:

Will the girl be prosecuted for fraud by misrepresentation?

Of course not.

That's fked up.

[Nickgnome]

Roman Rhodes said:

dudleybloke said:

Will the girl be prosecuted for fraud by misrepresentation?

Of course not.

That's fked up.

The only thing that is perverse is children being stalked by adults.

There is something very wrong with any person who goes on line to get some form of self gratification with a stranger.

He deserves his sentence and the child deserves protection. Possibly her parents need parenting education but that is pure speculation on my part.

[Kermit power]

Integroo said:

Kermit power said:

So you know better than the judge who heard the case, do you? The article reports the judge as saying that he had accepted, in deciding sentencing, that Hodgson "thought, and on reasonable grounds that she was over 16".

From reading that, I suspect that if she'd been just a few months older, he may well have been found not guilty, but because she was under 13, even though the judge accepted that he thought she was over 16, that's not a legal defence.

It does seem a pretty unusual case...

He was still 28, so even if he thought she was 16, still creepy and perverse.

And no way he spent any time with 13yo and mistook her for 19. Maybe in passing only would that br possible. Or wilful ignorance.

OK, so you're saying you are more informed about this case than the judge who heard it.

I have a 16yr old daughter. I'd be reaching for the carving knife if any 28yr old went anywhere near her virtue, but neither of us (I assume) know anything more about this case than what's in that article, and I certainly can't imagine either of us know any more about it than the judge who has presumably met both the bloke and the girl, so why are you so insistent that the judge is wrong in believing it was reasonable for the accused to think the girl was over 16?

Still potentially creepy, I agree, but that doesn't necessarily mean the guy thought he was breaking the law.

[Kewy]

Where did the parents of this 12 year old girl think she was whilst she was spending the night with this 30 year old man?

Sorry but my daughter is 11 and some of the st her and her friends come out with, there's no way you'd mistake them for 19.

Did he not get suspicious when she kept checking her Tik Tok?

[V8RX7]

SpeedMattersNot said:

If you admit to thinking 12 year old girls can look 18 you should be in prison (and hand in your driving license).

If you think you can judge the age of people you haven't seen, then you are even more ignorant than you appear

[anonymous-user]

Nickgnome said:

Roman Rhodes said:

dudleybloke said:

Will the girl be prosecuted for fraud by misrepresentation?

Of course not.

That's fked up.

The only thing that is perverse is children being stalked by adults.

There is something very wrong with any person who goes on line to get some form of self gratification with a stranger.

He deserves his sentence and the child deserves protection. Possibly her parents need parenting education but that is pure speculation on my part.

Agree completely. I do wonder at the thought processes of some posters at times. How does that st even enter dudleybloke's head?

[motco]

V8RX7 said:

SpeedMattersNot said:

If you admit to thinking 12 year old girls can look 18 you should be in prison (and hand in your driving license).

If you think you can judge the age of people you haven't seen, then you are even more ignorant than you appear

It's not about guessing their age but assessing whether they are children or adults, and based on my factors other than a bit of slap. A woman, let alone a child, should not be treated as a blow-up sex toy.

[deadslow]

coyft said:

I can see why the law exists, but it does seem unjust if she represents herself to be over 16 and he genuinely believes her.

young children can do daft things without properly understanding the potential consequences. They need to be protected.

If an adult genuinely cannot tell the difference between a 12 year old child and a 19 year old woman, then they need to seek help and will end up on the register. Rightly so.

[SpeedMattersNot]

V8RX7 said:

SpeedMattersNot said:

If you admit to thinking 12 year old girls can look 18 you should be in prison (and hand in your driving license).

If you think you can judge the age of people you haven't seen, then you are even more ignorant than you appear

My youngest daughter is 2.

Do you think she'll look like a 2 year old or an 18 year old.

[Ratski83]

Wasn’t this the chap that was prosecuted due to his own statement he gave when been questioned by the police? I believe the young girl refused to give a statement.

Always answer ‘No Comment’ the filth will use anything you say against you.

[Baby Shark doo doo doo doo]

Nickgnome said:

Roman Rhodes said:

dudleybloke said:

Will the girl be prosecuted for fraud by misrepresentation?

Of course not.

That's fked up.

The only thing that is perverse is children being stalked by adults.

There is something very wrong with any person who goes on line to get some form of self gratification with a stranger.

He deserves his sentence and the child deserves protection. Possibly her parents need parenting education but that is pure speculation on my part.

She claimed she was 19 on the internet dating app.

[Nickgnome]

Baby Shark doo doo doo doo said:

Nickgnome said:

Roman Rhodes said:

dudleybloke said:

Will the girl be prosecuted for fraud by misrepresentation?

Of course not.

That's fked up.

The only thing that is perverse is children being stalked by adults.

There is something very wrong with any person who goes on line to get some form of self gratification with a stranger.

He deserves his sentence and the child deserves protection. Possibly her parents need parenting education but that is pure speculation on my part.

She claimed she was 19 on the internet dating app.

So?

Your attitude is scary.

[Driver101]

Personally I don't buy that a 12 year old would pass off as a 19 year old even on looks for anything more than a passing glance. Once you've had a closer look and communication it would be near impossible to pass.

They don't really say much about the young girl other than her "withdrawn state" and being either "unwilling" or "unable" to communicate. I'd bet that the young girl wasn't exactly your typical 12 year old and had some sort of obvious issues.

I guess the rape charges came about as
he messaged a friend, saying "Mine was decent. Nailed that bird, unreal bod" and also described her as "filth".

Is it a case he was lying to his mate, or did sex happen and couldn't be proved as the girl couldn't, or wouldn't, communicate?

[WCZ]

Driver101 said:

Personally I don't buy that a 12 year old would pass off as a 19 year old even on looks for anything more than a passing glance. Once you've had a closer look and communication it would be near impossible to pass.

this. if she was maybe 14/15 then it's possible she could be mature beyond her age mentally and physically but 12 is basically an infant

edit: was reading reddit about this and some people were pointing to a famous Brazilian instagram star melodyoficial3 who is 11 who admittedly looks 17+ easily. I suppose makeup etc does make a big difference

Edited by WCZ on Tuesday 9th April 10:14