Nigel Farage Launches New Brexit Party.
Discussion
Piha said:
Perhaps appropriately from the LibDems, their website is saying 'We're experiencing temporary issues. Back soon...'Seems we know Corbyn is a bit thick and not really the great conviction politician. Appropriate given he's a Remainer.
Piha said:
alfie2244 said:
Piha said:
That was about Corbyn being 2 faced not the Brexit Party.6 / 6 for me so what do I win?
If we could remain in a 'common market' with no end goal of '...ever closer political and monetary union...' I suspect that there'd be no need for faraaaaaaage and the like. It is change that has brought this situation about, unnecessary change - and the EU mandarins are not for turning from their vision.
techiedave said:
You do indeed sound cross
And its with very good reason. When you detest a politician it's incredibly annoying when you keep seeing them on the TV. regularly seeing the object of a strong passion can play on your mind and make you react very strongly to them.
My passion was somewhat different but with self discipline and some basic picture association I was able to overcome it
And its with very good reason. When you detest a politician it's incredibly annoying when you keep seeing them on the TV. regularly seeing the object of a strong passion can play on your mind and make you react very strongly to them.
My passion was somewhat different but with self discipline and some basic picture association I was able to overcome it
Edited by techiedave on Thursday 16th May 07:58
Piha said:
SeeFive said:
Piha said:
steveT350C said:
To be fair, that is similar to saying a dose of thrush is more popular than ebola or leprosy!
So what would be your medical approach? Who is squeaky clean and has the drive, passion and commitment to provide your desired solution and likely to commit to it?
Politics shouldn't be about an individual being popular but unfortunately it appears the opposite is true. Being popular, with populist soundbites and posters won't make our country better. Politics should be about being able to make decisions on what is good for the country, and clearly communicating those decisions to the wider electorate.
I would have some respect for faarage, if when he was/is a MEP he had worked to change the EU to how he envisaged the UK's partnership with the EU should be. He didn't propose any solutions apart from Leave. Brexit means Brexit...... Blah blah blah...... No solutions, plans or direction. Just populist bluster. If I'm correct, I believe that even Mde Le Pen has decided that working within the EU for change is better than outright Leave.
May doesn't appear to be a good leader or team player. But then she did take a poison chalice of a job, she knew that too but she was giddy for power. The tories supported her and voted her leader. Maybe every other tory MP knew she was doomed to failure.
Corbyn is at least consistent although I am personally opposed to many of his policies. He even backs up his dream of a socialist utopia with a manifesto!!!!
There are no politicians in the UK that I generally agree with. I do think some are better than others even if I don't agree with their policies (and it is good to disagree with politicians policies). Sturgeon, JRM, Corbyn, McDonnell and Lucas all seem dedicated to their cause. I do admire NZ's PM. Previously, I admired Mo Mowlem greatly. She did what was best for the communities she was working for, whether that was Redcar or Ulster.
Bojo? Gove? Cooper? Watson? Nope, not for me.
FPTP doesn't work either. It doesn't serve the country well.
UK politics need a strong course of powerful antibiotics. 2 party system doesn't work. I won't hols my breathe though.
All in my opinion of course.
Many who felt that leaving the E.U. on WTO terms as a last resort, as stated in article 50 which was voted for by our government was acceptable. This democratic people’s decision, democratically kicked off by UK Parliament was of course usurped in a cowardly manner by those same MPs... until Farage threw his hat in on that one (potentially two) massive issue(s) following the political debacle.
So for many that hold that democracy dear, the BP is a mechanism to express that through the ballot box. Similar for those that believe WTO is an acceptable route out of the E.U. It is a very clever (or arguably, twisted) positioning by the BP to take two major groundswells of objection (democracy and E.U.) and stand on them alone until the rest is put in place.
The outcome of the EU elections is a given IMO simply because many realise how impotent our MEPs are in that club - basically the feeling could be that even if a protest vote gives the wrong answer to the democracy discord by actually installing Brexiteers in the E.U. Parl, the impact is minimal.
The GE will be telling, and I don’t think for one moment that the BP will make it to power due to other reasons for tactical voting and Labour rosette on a pig voters. But the question I would ask you to ask yourself is, if the BP manifesto suited your unfulfilled desires more than any other party, with their flawed leaders as you suggest (add, I don’t see Corbyn as anything like consistent, just as vague as Farage on many key issues) then you are suggesting that your hatred of their leader would actually prevent you from voting for the policies and manifesto which meets your agenda best?
Otis Criblecoblis said:
Piha said:
Perhaps appropriately from the LibDems, their website is saying 'We're experiencing temporary issues. Back soon...'Seems we know Corbyn is a bit thick and not really the great conviction politician. Appropriate given he's a Remainer.
Jeremy is no Remoaner. Never has been, never will be. He can't renationalise UK industry if the UK is in the EU.
Farage and the tories are plunging headfirst into Jeremy's cunning plan. Faarage cancels out the tories voter base (something Jeremy is completely unable to do) and in doing so hands power to Labour. The tory Brexit then means Jeremy can play out his socialist wet dream. Well done Brexiteers!
Piha said:
Otis Criblecoblis said:
Piha said:
Perhaps appropriately from the LibDems, their website is saying 'We're experiencing temporary issues. Back soon...'Seems we know Corbyn is a bit thick and not really the great conviction politician. Appropriate given he's a Remainer.
Jeremy is no Remoaner. Never has been, never will be. He can't renationalise UK industry if the UK is in the EU.
Farage and the tories are plunging headfirst into Jeremy's cunning plan. Faarage cancels out the tories voter base (something Jeremy is completely unable to do) and in doing so hands power to Labour. The tory Brexit then means Jeremy can play out his socialist wet dream. Well done Brexiteers!
Piha said:
Ahem.
Jeremy is no Remoaner. Never has been, never will be. He can't renationalise UK industry if the UK is in the EU.
Farage and the tories are plunging headfirst into Jeremy's cunning plan. Faarage cancels out the tories voter base (something Jeremy is completely unable to do) and in doing so hands power to Labour. The tory Brexit then means Jeremy can play out his socialist wet dream. Well done Brexiteers!
If only the Labour leavers agreed with you, you might be right. As it is, let’s see what the European Elections bring. I suspect it will be a more extreme version of the local elections with both Labour and the Conservatives cut off at the knees.Jeremy is no Remoaner. Never has been, never will be. He can't renationalise UK industry if the UK is in the EU.
Farage and the tories are plunging headfirst into Jeremy's cunning plan. Faarage cancels out the tories voter base (something Jeremy is completely unable to do) and in doing so hands power to Labour. The tory Brexit then means Jeremy can play out his socialist wet dream. Well done Brexiteers!
Troubleatmill said:
techiedave said:
One of the esteemed posters above mentions that the Brexit party logo should have been looked at by the electoral commission.
I can see other issues equally as important. I think some title creators that worked for the BBC may well have a case against Mr Farage
The Brexit Party Logo:
The Dads Army credit titles "flag"
Another view of the Dads Army "flag" showing its use in the titles
I think the grounds for copyright violation are pretty clear and so it seems do several twitter followers I have liased with
I think however that the design and implementation of the Brexit party Logo raises more serious issues. It is plainly an attempt to cash in and to link to the affection, nostalgia and fondness the British People feel for Dads Army.
That in itself is worrying what is much more deeply worrying is the suspicion that by doing so they are exploiting the threat of invasion and subjugation. This is something that the Europhobians worry about:
Invasion from the millions of immigrants that have arrived to steal the fruit picking jobs and force British prossies out of the marketplace.
Subjugation by the foreign powers. Not just Germany but France, Italy, Greece in fact any country that takes part in Eurovision.
It should be possible to educate these people into understanding how great the EU is. But this takes tim and lots of subtle hints need laying. Dr Who is off air all year so there is no chance of subtly dropping in comments into those scripts in time. The only options remaining are to wear people down by prolonging the current situation and diverting attentions away.
If only the EU could pop the elections on hold for a brief period of say 6 years that would help
Well. That’s a bit of a stretch. I can see other issues equally as important. I think some title creators that worked for the BBC may well have a case against Mr Farage
The Brexit Party Logo:
The Dads Army credit titles "flag"
Another view of the Dads Army "flag" showing its use in the titles
I think the grounds for copyright violation are pretty clear and so it seems do several twitter followers I have liased with
I think however that the design and implementation of the Brexit party Logo raises more serious issues. It is plainly an attempt to cash in and to link to the affection, nostalgia and fondness the British People feel for Dads Army.
That in itself is worrying what is much more deeply worrying is the suspicion that by doing so they are exploiting the threat of invasion and subjugation. This is something that the Europhobians worry about:
Invasion from the millions of immigrants that have arrived to steal the fruit picking jobs and force British prossies out of the marketplace.
Subjugation by the foreign powers. Not just Germany but France, Italy, Greece in fact any country that takes part in Eurovision.
It should be possible to educate these people into understanding how great the EU is. But this takes tim and lots of subtle hints need laying. Dr Who is off air all year so there is no chance of subtly dropping in comments into those scripts in time. The only options remaining are to wear people down by prolonging the current situation and diverting attentions away.
If only the EU could pop the elections on hold for a brief period of say 6 years that would help
Go to PowerPoint.
Click on shapes.
Click Circle.
Click arrow.
Tada - there is the logo.
Where it is clever is that the left Hand side of the teal circle is an E. And the right hand side is the left hand side of an X
Other posters noting the small arrow between the EX
It’s a great logo.
But it’s nothing like Dads Army.
Piha said:
Ahem.
Jeremy is no Remoaner. Never has been, never will be. He can't renationalise UK industry if the UK is in the EU.
Farage and the tories are plunging headfirst into Jeremy's cunning plan. Farage cancels out the tories voter base (something Jeremy is completely unable to do) and in doing so hands power to Labour. The tory Brexit then means Jeremy can play out his socialist wet dream. Well done Brexiteers!
Unless there's a coalition............ Tories and whatever Farage's party is called post Brexit Jeremy is no Remoaner. Never has been, never will be. He can't renationalise UK industry if the UK is in the EU.
Farage and the tories are plunging headfirst into Jeremy's cunning plan. Farage cancels out the tories voter base (something Jeremy is completely unable to do) and in doing so hands power to Labour. The tory Brexit then means Jeremy can play out his socialist wet dream. Well done Brexiteers!
......just think Boris and Farage at the helm 
vxr8mate said:
Piha said:
Otis Criblecoblis said:
Piha said:
Perhaps appropriately from the LibDems, their website is saying 'We're experiencing temporary issues. Back soon...'Seems we know Corbyn is a bit thick and not really the great conviction politician. Appropriate given he's a Remainer.
Jeremy is no Remoaner. Never has been, never will be. He can't renationalise UK industry if the UK is in the EU.
Farage and the tories are plunging headfirst into Jeremy's cunning plan. Faarage cancels out the tories voter base (something Jeremy is completely unable to do) and in doing so hands power to Labour. The tory Brexit then means Jeremy can play out his socialist wet dream. Well done Brexiteers!
How Labour aren't 20+ points ahead of the worst tory government in living memory in simply staggering.
Piha said:
Otis Criblecoblis said:
Piha said:
Perhaps appropriately from the LibDems, their website is saying 'We're experiencing temporary issues. Back soon...'Seems we know Corbyn is a bit thick and not really the great conviction politician. Appropriate given he's a Remainer.
Jeremy is no Remoaner. Never has been, never will be. He can't renationalise UK industry if the UK is in the EU.
irocfan said:
If we could remain in a 'common market' with no end goal of '...ever closer political and monetary union...' I suspect that there'd be no need for faraaaaaaage and the like. It is change that has brought this situation about, unnecessary change - and the EU mandarins are not for turning from their vision.
Which is what we had https://fullfact.org/europe/explaining-eu-deal-eve....Otis Criblecoblis said:
Piha said:
Otis Criblecoblis said:
Piha said:
Perhaps appropriately from the LibDems, their website is saying 'We're experiencing temporary issues. Back soon...'Seems we know Corbyn is a bit thick and not really the great conviction politician. Appropriate given he's a Remainer.
Jeremy is no Remoaner. Never has been, never will be. He can't renationalise UK industry if the UK is in the EU.
https://www.markpack.org.uk/153744/jeremy-corbyn-b...
Piha said:
Strangley enough the quiz doesn't allow me to answer b
ks to every question, which is what I thought was the LD's solution to Brexit.
Piha said:
Otis Criblecoblis said:
Piha said:
Otis Criblecoblis said:
Piha said:
Perhaps appropriately from the LibDems, their website is saying 'We're experiencing temporary issues. Back soon...'Seems we know Corbyn is a bit thick and not really the great conviction politician. Appropriate given he's a Remainer.
Jeremy is no Remoaner. Never has been, never will be. He can't renationalise UK industry if the UK is in the EU.
https://www.markpack.org.uk/153744/jeremy-corbyn-b...
Much like a lot of the 48%, who have little time or love of the EU, but decided it was safer to vote Remain. He cast his vote and decided despite all what he said previously, he favours remaining. Only you could argue the vote is an inferior definition.
Piha said:
crankedup said:
Piha said:
crankedup said:
Remainers really wetting themselves over Brexit Party. You were informed that Brexiteers did not embarrass themselves by waddling around in the streets waving silly placards. You were all told that brexiteers voice themselves through the ballot box, that’s where it counts. And so it begins.
Brexiteers - check.Silly placards - check.
Waddling around streets - check.
Embarrass themselves - check.
But when one considers that St Nige is in 3 of those images, it raises the question of who you are claiming is in fact, one of the "odd ones"!
And in other news, the fabulously wonderful "Led by Donkeys" have decided that St Nige and his previous questionable comments are coming to a billboard near you soon...!!!!!!
Cohen123 said:
Majority of Europeans 'expect end of EU within 20 years'
Oh, and by the way, I didn't get this from the Express, Telegraph or Mail. Oh no, the actual Gruniad itself
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/15/majo...
Very interesting read. And probably explains why the EU want to make our exit as problematic as possible. Lots of lucrative vested interests at stake here...
You do have to love headline writers. If you actually read the story it says:Oh, and by the way, I didn't get this from the Express, Telegraph or Mail. Oh no, the actual Gruniad itself
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/15/majo...
Very interesting read. And probably explains why the EU want to make our exit as problematic as possible. Lots of lucrative vested interests at stake here...
“thought EU disintegration was a “realistic possibility” in the next 10 to 20 years”
MX5Biologist said:
alfie2244 said:
Unless there's a coalition............ Tories and whatever Farage's party is called post Brexit ......just think Boris and Farage at the helm
With George Galloway gaining a ministerial portfolio in that coalition government......just think Boris and Farage at the helm Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff