Nigel Farage Launches New Brexit Party.
Discussion
Robertj21a said:
MX5Biologist said:
alfie2244 said:
Unless there's a coalition............ Tories and whatever Farage's party is called post Brexit 
......just think Boris and Farage at the helm 
With George Galloway gaining a ministerial portfolio in that coalition government......just think Boris and Farage at the helm 
(he'll have to lose that waistcoat, though....)
Piha said:
Farage and the tories are plunging headfirst into Jeremy's cunning plan. Faarage cancels out the tories voter base (something Jeremy is completely unable to do) and in doing so hands power to Labour. The tory Brexit then means Jeremy can play out his socialist wet dream. Well done Brexiteers!
I will grant you that the spectre of the gruesome twosome post-brexit in #10 & 11 does fill me with dread - but if that's what the majority vote for who am I to argue?Stuzza said:
irocfan said:
If we could remain in a 'common market' with no end goal of '...ever closer political and monetary union...' I suspect that there'd be no need for faraaaaaaage and the like. It is change that has brought this situation about, unnecessary change - and the EU mandarins are not for turning from their vision.
Which is what we had https://fullfact.org/europe/explaining-eu-deal-eve....
gooner1 said:
Our Nige seems to have induced a severe bout of anger and resentment
in Purple Diddly and b
hstewie in particular.
Strange coming from one that never votes, allegedley, and t'other who struggles
to find a politician any different from his Nigelness.
I detested Gordon Brown too.in Purple Diddly and b
hstewie in particular.Strange coming from one that never votes, allegedley, and t'other who struggles
to find a politician any different from his Nigelness.
Wouldn't piss in their ear if their brain was on fire.
Borghetto said:
Get rid of the licence fee and split the Corp in two; News & Current Affairs, Documentaries & Entertainment. Make both bits separately either pay per view or subscription. I somehow think they'd sink without trace.
i wonder if we would see the same amount of climate change pgh said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Sorry but the things you've said and done in the past are totally relevant as they go towards your character and your integrity if you're asking people to vote for you and the things you stand for.
Do you really think it's right for the bloke to make "that" poster and say the stuff he's said about various things and then to say "Why are you asking me this it's all in the past?".
Other politicians get a total slating, and rightly so when they try that tactic.
It's total double standards.
By all means analyse his character. Don't be surprised though that an inability to talk about current affairs makes a current affairs programme look silly.Do you really think it's right for the bloke to make "that" poster and say the stuff he's said about various things and then to say "Why are you asking me this it's all in the past?".
Other politicians get a total slating, and rightly so when they try that tactic.
It's total double standards.
No policies = can't talk about policies.
So if Nigel wanted to go on a current affairs program as a politician with no policies what did he expect?
Reading that back it's patently absurd - a party leader leading a party with no policies until after you've voted for them.
You couldn't make that s
t up yet, thanks to the inability of anyone else to organise themselves that's where we are.I do admire the opportunism.
Piha said:
alfie2244 said:
Piha said:
That was about Corbyn being 2 faced not the Brexit Party.6 / 6 for me so what do I win?
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:pgh said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Sorry but the things you've said and done in the past are totally relevant as they go towards your character and your integrity if you're asking people to vote for you and the things you stand for.
Do you really think it's right for the bloke to make "that" poster and say the stuff he's said about various things and then to say "Why are you asking me this it's all in the past?".
Other politicians get a total slating, and rightly so when they try that tactic.
It's total double standards.
By all means analyse his character. Don't be surprised though that an inability to talk about current affairs makes a current affairs programme look silly.Do you really think it's right for the bloke to make "that" poster and say the stuff he's said about various things and then to say "Why are you asking me this it's all in the past?".
Other politicians get a total slating, and rightly so when they try that tactic.
It's total double standards.
No policies = can't talk about policies.
So if Nigel wanted to go on a current affairs program as a politician with no policies what did he expect?
Reading that back it's patently absurd - a party leader leading a party with no policies until after you've voted for them.
You couldn't make that s
t up yet, thanks to the inability of anyone else to organise themselves that's where we are.I do admire the opportunism.
Considering they then form "groups" that aren't drawn from parties, don't have manifestos, etc.
Also considering that a MEP cannot table legislation, so can't even say what they'd propose for a vote.
Whether you think Marr or Farage came off better or worse seems to depend on whether you liked Farage in the first place. No surprise there.
What we don't know much more about is what Farage and his party plan to do as MEPs or how they propose to tackle the problems leaving apparently throws up.
If we can assume Marr is a remainer, or even just wanted a thorough interview then it seems like a lost opportunity.
Farage was never going to be top of David Lammy's Christmas card list and I think most people have a view on his character already, one that wasn't going to change much on the back of a 15 minute interview on the BBC.
The opportunity was there to grill him on what he planned to do in the forthcoming elections and how he hoped to influence the government. Marr missed it IMO because he was so keen to get a devastating blow in and show everyone how nasty Farage is.
What we don't know much more about is what Farage and his party plan to do as MEPs or how they propose to tackle the problems leaving apparently throws up.
If we can assume Marr is a remainer, or even just wanted a thorough interview then it seems like a lost opportunity.
Farage was never going to be top of David Lammy's Christmas card list and I think most people have a view on his character already, one that wasn't going to change much on the back of a 15 minute interview on the BBC.
The opportunity was there to grill him on what he planned to do in the forthcoming elections and how he hoped to influence the government. Marr missed it IMO because he was so keen to get a devastating blow in and show everyone how nasty Farage is.
Sway said:
What policies do you expect from any of the candidates in the Euro Parliament elections?
Considering they then form "groups" that aren't drawn from parties, don't have manifestos, etc.
Also considering that a MEP cannot table legislation, so can't even say what they'd propose for a vote.
A set of very good points. Considering they then form "groups" that aren't drawn from parties, don't have manifestos, etc.
Also considering that a MEP cannot table legislation, so can't even say what they'd propose for a vote.
No wonder those knobheads were trying to stop BP supporters getting to the rally last night lol. Must be absolutely cacking their strides after looking at this one
European Parliament voting intention (Wales):
BREX: 33% (+33)
LAB: 18% (-10)
PC: 16% (+1)
LDEM: 10% (+6)
GRN: 8% (+3)
CON: 7% (-10)
CHUK: 4% (+4)
via @YouGov
Chgs. w/ 2014 result.
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/112899140...
4:51 am - 16 May 2019
European Parliament voting intention (Wales):
BREX: 33% (+33)
LAB: 18% (-10)
PC: 16% (+1)
LDEM: 10% (+6)
GRN: 8% (+3)
CON: 7% (-10)
CHUK: 4% (+4)
via @YouGov
Chgs. w/ 2014 result.
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/112899140...
4:51 am - 16 May 2019
Sway said:
What policies do you expect from any of the candidates in the Euro Parliament elections?
Considering they then form "groups" that aren't drawn from parties, don't have manifestos, etc.
Also considering that a MEP cannot table legislation, so can't even say what they'd propose for a vote.
If policies don't matter why did other parties publish them in 2014 and presumably will do so now?Considering they then form "groups" that aren't drawn from parties, don't have manifestos, etc.
Also considering that a MEP cannot table legislation, so can't even say what they'd propose for a vote.
https://www.conservatives.com/~/media/Files/Downlo...
https://www.policyforum.labour.org.uk/uploads/edit...
http://labour.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Tr...
It seems lazy at the very least.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:Sway said:
What policies do you expect from any of the candidates in the Euro Parliament elections?
Considering they then form "groups" that aren't drawn from parties, don't have manifestos, etc.
Also considering that a MEP cannot table legislation, so can't even say what they'd propose for a vote.
If policies don't matter why did other parties publish them in 2014 and presumably will do so now?Considering they then form "groups" that aren't drawn from parties, don't have manifestos, etc.
Also considering that a MEP cannot table legislation, so can't even say what they'd propose for a vote.
https://www.conservatives.com/~/media/Files/Downlo...
https://www.policyforum.labour.org.uk/uploads/edit...
http://labour.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Tr...
It seems lazy at the very least.
Both those parties also released manifestos for the GE - and have ignored them in the Parliamentary period since.
It's very wasteful, and in the Euro Elections a complete waste of time.
What, exactly, do you think any elected MEP can do to enact the policies they've listed in their manifesto?
It's very wasteful, and in the Euro Elections a complete waste of time.
What, exactly, do you think any elected MEP can do to enact the policies they've listed in their manifesto?
Sway said:
Both those parties also released manifestos for the GE - and have ignored them in the Parliamentary period since.
It's very wasteful, and in the Euro Elections a complete waste of time.
What, exactly, do you think any elected MEP can do to enact the policies they've listed in their manifesto?
Well they could start by turning up for work, unlike one popularist MEP I could mention.It's very wasteful, and in the Euro Elections a complete waste of time.
What, exactly, do you think any elected MEP can do to enact the policies they've listed in their manifesto?
Nice feature from the Telegraph which calculates seats by region based on projected votes.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/0/european-el...
Pretty grim stuff if you're not supporting BP. Bloody great if you are though. They could well have an outright majority of MEPs.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/0/european-el...
Pretty grim stuff if you're not supporting BP. Bloody great if you are though. They could well have an outright majority of MEPs.
Edited by JuanCarlosFandango on Thursday 16th May 19:42
Sway said:
Both those parties also released manifestos for the GE - and have ignored them in the Parliamentary period since.
It's very wasteful, and in the Euro Elections a complete waste of time.
What, exactly, do you think any elected MEP can do to enact the policies they've listed in their manifesto?
Very little.It's very wasteful, and in the Euro Elections a complete waste of time.
What, exactly, do you think any elected MEP can do to enact the policies they've listed in their manifesto?
I do however think it helps to perhaps make an effort to show you're not blatantly taking the piss out of the people you want to vote for you though by taking their vote for granted.
I get it, he can do no wrong in many peoples eyes, but talk about a piss take when you can be so complacent as to not even bother with even a token written manifesto.
Piha said:
Sway said:
Both those parties also released manifestos for the GE - and have ignored them in the Parliamentary period since.
It's very wasteful, and in the Euro Elections a complete waste of time.
What, exactly, do you think any elected MEP can do to enact the policies they've listed in their manifesto?
Well they could start by turning up for work, unlike one popularist MEP I could mention.It's very wasteful, and in the Euro Elections a complete waste of time.
What, exactly, do you think any elected MEP can do to enact the policies they've listed in their manifesto?
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