Nigel Farage Launches New Brexit Party.

[Cohen123]

Murph7355 said:

I guess nobody ever envisaged the leader of a nation to come up with a deal even more biased towards the EU than being a fully paid up member. It certainly wasn't ever mentioned by a Leaver (though plenty of Remainers noted we already have the best deal... May just wanted to try and underscore that)

We live and learn.

Bring on a managed no deal. Then we can all get on with the serious stuff in life. Like cars.

Not forgetting the 39 billion quid we would also have to pay the EU for this incredibly bad deal! Career politicians/civil servants should be nowhere near deals negotiations. Clueless.

[bitchstewie]

hyphen said:

Terrible interview by one of the other founder of the Brexit party on radio 4's Today programme this morning.

He was asked if the party was accepting foreign money, he just wouldn't give a proper answer.

He could have easily said several different things, such as donations from expats and so on.

But instead came across shady.

I don't think Nigel's supporters would care if a PayPal receipt was found from [e-mail].

"Just get us out".

[don'tbesilly]

Squiddly Diddly said:

technodup said:

or fairly obvious reasons I normally avoid Brexit threads, but surely the point is that other options may have been available had we a Brexiteer in charge and/or a tougher negotiating stance?

As it was with Remainer May and Remainer Robbins and Remainers Tom, Dick and Harry, with the added issue of her being fking useless, we were on a hiding to nothing from the start.

May set her stall out very early in several brexit speeches across Europe. She wanted a close and unique relationship with the EU for the UK. That is exactly what she has done.

Perhaps Farage and the likes should have been stating back then that was not what leavers wanted?

It sounded good, and the public, those who voted Leave were hoodwinked into thinking that despite May being a Remainer at heart she had the best interests of those who voted Leave at the forefront of her mind while singing all the right songs and getting the lyrics right.

It fell apart in July 2018 at the Chequers wk/end when her craftily planned and mendacious plan was revealed, a plan hatched behind the backs of those working in the DEXU office, and a plan no one saw coming.

The plan was unique, it was capitulation, and a plan which would keep the UK very,very close to the EU and for an undetermined length of time, and until the EU gave permission for the UK to cut the apron strings.

What a cracking deal for the EU, and a disastrous one for the UK.

By the way, Farage didn't have a Brexit Party in 2019,nor in 2016, no one thought Farage would end up being the force he currently is.

[Tuna]

bhstewie said:

I don't think Nigel's supporters would care if a PayPal receipt was found from [e-mail].

"Just get us out".

By the heavens, I think the boy's finally got it!

[Fastchas]

FiF said:

Lol His Nigelness just tweeted about Andrew Marr having 5 Remainers and no Leaver on yesterday. Pointed out they don't have a manifesto yet but that the BBC licence fee might have just got on the agenda.

Meanwhile

How voters have moved from 2017 to now. Ouch, though it's not a fair comparison as in Westminster actual vote vs specifically Westminster vote intentions I think.

Edited by FiF on Monday 20th May 08:42

I put Andrew Marr on yesterday, saw the guest list and thought 'Christ, every one of them's a remainer, it's going to be a grovelling bumlick from Marr',
but it was really good. He showed every one of them up for what they are - a bunch of unprincipled, undemocratic hypocrites. He even showed them videos of them contradicting their current stance.

[TTwiggy]

don'tbesilly said:

It fell apart in July 2018 at the Chequers wk/end when her craftily planned and mendacious plan was revealed, a plan hatched behind the backs of those working in the DEXU office, and a plan no one saw coming.

It fell apart when the vote delivered what effectively translates to a stalemate. Despite agreeing that 'one single vote' would decide one of the most monumental decisions of a peacetime government (which was incredibly stupid to begin with), Parliament knows that whatever way they go they are going to piss a large number of voters royally off.

For the record, I accept the decision and accept that we are leaving, but this folly was doomed from the start. There was never going to be a significant majority for either remain or leave.

[rscott]

bhstewie said:

hyphen said:

Terrible interview by one of the other founder of the Brexit party on radio 4's Today programme this morning.

He was asked if the party was accepting foreign money, he just wouldn't give a proper answer.

He could have easily said several different things, such as donations from expats and so on.

But instead came across shady.

I don't think Nigel's supporters would care if a PayPal receipt was found from [e-mail].

"Just get us out".

How about [e-mail] - https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-farag...

[JNW1]

Tuna said:

bhstewie said:

I don't think Nigel's supporters would care if a PayPal receipt was found from [e-mail].

"Just get us out".

By the heavens, I think the boy's finally got it!

I think Farage is an imbecile and I wouldn't trust him as far as I could kick him; I also think The Brexit Party are bereft of policies that would address the real issues and problems facing the UK so not a chance I'd vote for them in a UK General Election.

However, having said all that, I'll vote for the Brexit Party in the forthcoming European elections because - IMHO - it's the best way of sending a message that I'm unhappy about the way our Parliament has failed to respect the referendum result of 2016. I accept my vote may well help to mean we send a bunch of half-wits to Strasbourg but frankly I don't care because we should have left the EU by now and hence shouldn't be sending anyone anyway....

[768]

JNW1 said:

I also think The Brexit Party are bereft of policies that would address the real issues and problems facing the UK so not a chance I'd vote for them in a UK General Election.

Supposedly they intend on addressing that after the EU elections and before any GE. The one policy of leaving the EU is just for the EU elections.

[Robertj21a]

768 said:

JNW1 said:

I also think The Brexit Party are bereft of policies that would address the real issues and problems facing the UK so not a chance I'd vote for them in a UK General Election.

Supposedly they intend on addressing that after the EU elections and before any GE. The one policy of leaving the EU is just for the EU elections.

Yes, as mentioned by Ann Widdecombe (another one more in tune with the country than most of the HoC).

[alfie2244]

Robertj21a said:

768 said:

JNW1 said:

I also think The Brexit Party are bereft of policies that would address the real issues and problems facing the UK so not a chance I'd vote for them in a UK General Election.

Supposedly they intend on addressing that after the EU elections and before any GE. The one policy of leaving the EU is just for the EU elections.

Yes, as mentioned by Ann Widdecombe (another one more in tune with the country than most of the HoC).

BBC TV license fee may be high on the agenda

[Cohen123]

alfie2244 said:

BBC TV license fee may be high on the agenda

Scrapping that and HS2 would make my year...

[wc98]

Cohen123 said:

alfie2244 said:

BBC TV license fee may be high on the agenda

Scrapping that and HS2 would make my year...

if they add scrapping the devolved parliaments into the mix it would make mine as well.

[bodmino]

wc98 said:

Cohen123 said:

alfie2244 said:

BBC TV license fee may be high on the agenda

Scrapping that and HS2 would make my year...

if they add scrapping the devolved parliaments into the mix it would make mine as well.

And not prosecuting ex service personnel.


There you go 4 good policies.

[amgmcqueen]

bodmino said:

wc98 said:

Cohen123 said:

alfie2244 said:

BBC TV license fee may be high on the agenda

Scrapping that and HS2 would make my year...

if they add scrapping the devolved parliaments into the mix it would make mine as well.

And not prosecuting ex service personnel.


There you go 4 good policies.

And scrapping inheritance tax, and not sending £16Billion overseas every year in foreign aid.

[bodmino]

amgmcqueen said:

bodmino said:

wc98 said:

Cohen123 said:

alfie2244 said:

BBC TV license fee may be high on the agenda

Scrapping that and HS2 would make my year...

if they add scrapping the devolved parliaments into the mix it would make mine as well.

And not prosecuting ex service personnel.


There you go 4 good policies.

And scrapping inheritance tax, and not sending £16Billion overseas every year in foreign aid.

And stopping penalising small business owners with ridiculous red tape.

[alfie2244]

bodmino said:

amgmcqueen said:

bodmino said:

wc98 said:

Cohen123 said:

alfie2244 said:

BBC TV license fee may be high on the agenda

Scrapping that and HS2 would make my year...

if they add scrapping the devolved parliaments into the mix it would make mine as well.

And not prosecuting ex service personnel.


There you go 4 good policies.

And scrapping inheritance tax, and not sending £16Billion overseas every year in foreign aid.

And stopping penalising small business owners with ridiculous red tape.

Back to the old fashioned way of Training nurses and bring back Matron.

[Vanden Saab]

alfie2244 said:

Back to the old fashioned way of Training nurses and bring back Matron.

This, most of the best nurses don't have or need a degree.

[SeeFive]

bodmino said:

And not prosecuting ex service personnel.


There you go 4 good policies.

These guys were on my local election candidate list. Did my due diligence but I ended up not voting at all as I couldn’t hold my nose on some of their policies and was politically homeless, but they do seem to agree with your view on prosecuting ex-military personnel.

Shame this is not part of more moderate party manifestos.

https://www.vapp.org.uk/blog

[Helicopter123]

wc98 said:

Cohen123 said:

alfie2244 said:

BBC TV license fee may be high on the agenda

Scrapping that and HS2 would make my year...

if they add scrapping the devolved parliaments into the mix it would make mine as well.

I really don't think that would end well at all...