Nigel Farage Launches New Brexit Party.

[alfie2244]

TTwiggy said:

alfie2244 said:

Sorry I should have said those that have already posted on this matter......do you condemn this action?

Condemn it? Not really. I couldn't give a crap about Farage and his dry cleaning bill. I think it's a sad result of people in the public eye using hate filled rhetoric for their own ends (see also Tommy Robinson and that sad sack Zargon of whatisplace). Would I throw something at them? No, I think it's puerile and lets them play the victim card.

Shame.....I would condemn it happening against anyone regardless of their political views.

However this man has my utmost respect:


"Brendan Cox - Verified account @MrBrendanCox
39m39 minutes ago

I dislike @Nigel_Farage ‘s politics profoundly. His willingness to pander to hatred &division even more so. But I don’t think throwing stuff at politicians you disagree with is a good idea. It normalises violence &intimidation and we should consistently stand again it."

[TeamD]

TTwiggy said:

alfie2244 said:

Sorry I should have said those that have already posted on this matter......do you condemn this action?

Condemn it? Not really. I couldn't give a crap about Farage and his dry cleaning bill. I think it's a sad result of people in the public eye using hate filled rhetoric for their own ends (see also Tommy Robinson and that sad sack Zargon of whatisplace). Would I throw something at them? No, I think it's puerile and lets them play the victim card.

Like Corbyn the other week when he got egged?

[kev1974]

So the guy that chucked an egg at Corbyn got 28 days jail for his trouble, presume milkshake guy will get the same?

[Spanna]

The milkshaker is bragging about it on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/themadbrewery/status/113044305...

Dashing people with milk, eggs, flour, whatever is a stupid act whoever they are. Basically give yourself a record and it gives the victim more cred if they handle it well.

[steveT350C]

Wales voting Brexit Party...

https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2019-05-20/poll-put...

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Can you imagine if someone had chucked a milkshake at Soubry?

[TTwiggy]

TeamD said:

TTwiggy said:

alfie2244 said:

Sorry I should have said those that have already posted on this matter......do you condemn this action?

Condemn it? Not really. I couldn't give a crap about Farage and his dry cleaning bill. I think it's a sad result of people in the public eye using hate filled rhetoric for their own ends (see also Tommy Robinson and that sad sack Zargon of whatisplace). Would I throw something at them? No, I think it's puerile and lets them play the victim card.

Like Corbyn the other week when he got egged?

Yes, exactly the same.

I realise that the polarized nature of this site will mean that my words will now be twisted to the point where I'm presented as basically braying for the blood of anyone whose politics I disagree with (and that would include Corbyn, by the way), but I believe in giving honest answers. I don't 'condemn' petty acts like this as they are, IMO, beneath condemnation. It's not inherently a violent act, it's an act of crass stupidity that achieves nothing. As such, I don't deem it worthy of such strong language as condemnation.

[alfie2244]

TTwiggy said:

Yes, exactly the same.

I realise that the polarized nature of this site will mean that my words will now be twisted to the point where I'm presented as basically braying for the blood of anyone whose politics I disagree with (and that would include Corbyn, by the way), but I believe in giving honest answers. I don't 'condemn' petty acts like this as they are, IMO, beneath condemnation. It's not inherently a violent act, it's an act of crass stupidity that achieves nothing. As such, I don't deem it worthy of such strong language as condemnation.

Shame but there you go and at least you are honest..........lets hope this petty act doesn't happen to anyone you know or care about.

[TTwiggy]

alfie2244 said:

Shame but there you go and at least you are honest..........lets hope this petty act doesn't happen to anyone you know or care about.

I'm of the opinion that 99.99% of the population should be free to go about their business without suffering a milkshake attack. Those who choose to be in the public eye, and particularly those who nail their colours to controversial and divisive masts, can maybe expect some direct action from time to time. That includes Prescott and his egging, which arguably he dealt with in the way it should be dealt with.

There's a British tradition of letting people know that their views are not welcome, and that's 'ok' with me, even if I'd never do it myself. I would and do condemn threats or action of actual violence, regardless of the target. So if someone threatened to kill Farage, or rape Soubry I'd condemn both actions vigorously and equally.

[TTwiggy]

pgh said:

Is now a good time to remind you of what happened to Jo Cox?

Yes. Let's remember that left-wing/remain politicians get violently murdered in the street by people shouting 'Britain first', while right-wing/leave politicians (or whatever Tommy Robinson is this week) get milkshaken.

[anonymous-user]

https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson_MP/status/1130481...

Nigel not happy with his security.

The person who threw it is a moron and should be prosecuted.

TTwiggy said:

There's a British tradition of letting people know that their views are not welcome, and that's 'ok' with me, even if I'd never do it myself. I would and do condemn threats or action of actual violence, regardless of the target. So if someone threatened to kill Farage, or rape Soubry I'd condemn both actions vigorously and equally.

It was actual violence. It's an assault.

What you seem to mean is 'actual violence' at a level of seriousness you deem worthy.

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 20th May 16:14

[Slagathore]

Spanna said:

The milkshaker is bragging about it on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/themadbrewery/status/113044305...

Dashing people with milk, eggs, flour, whatever is a stupid act whoever they are. Basically give yourself a record and it gives the victim more cred if they handle it well.

Social media age, innit.

Do st to get famous online.

Surprised the fat st wasted a milkshake, to be honest.

[alfie2244]

TTwiggy said:

pgh said:

Is now a good time to remind you of what happened to Jo Cox?

Yes. Let's remember that left-wing/remain politicians get violently murdered in the street by people shouting 'Britain first', while right-wing/leave politicians (or whatever Tommy Robinson is this week) get milkshaken.

And this is what her husband thinks:


Brendan Cox Verified account @MrBrendanCox
39m39 minutes ago

I dislike @Nigel_Farage ‘s politics profoundly. His willingness to pander to hatred &division even more so. But I don’t think throwing stuff at politicians you disagree with is a good idea. It normalises violence &intimidation and we should consistently stand again it.

[TTwiggy]

La Liga said:

https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson_MP/status/1130481...

Nigel not happy with his security.

The person who threw it is a moron and should be prosecuted.

Reading between the lines, but it doesn't appear that Boris is too outraged by this.

[TTwiggy]

La Liga said:

t was actual violence. It's an assault.

What you seem to mean is 'actual violence' at a level of seriousness you deem worthy.

Edited by La Liga on Monday 20th May 16:14

I understand the legal definition. I reserve the right to decide where my level of 'condemnation' kicks in.

[TTwiggy]

alfie2244 said:

And this is what her husband thinks:


Brendan Cox Verified account @MrBrendanCox
39m39 minutes ago

I dislike @Nigel_Farage ‘s politics profoundly. His willingness to pander to hatred &division even more so. But I don’t think throwing stuff at politicians you disagree with is a good idea. It normalises violence &intimidation and we should consistently stand again it.

When the news of her husband's 'questionable' behaviour first surfaced there were some posters on here happy to use it to discredit a dead woman. Seems that he's now back in favour. Odd that.

[Leicester Loyal]

More good publicity for Farage again btw.

[anonymous-user]

TTwiggy said:

La Liga said:

t was actual violence. It's an assault.

What you seem to mean is 'actual violence' at a level of seriousness you deem worthy.

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 20th May 16:14

I understand the legal definition. I reserve the right to decide where my level of 'condemnation' kicks in.

I was highlighting where you said 'actual violence', as if this wasn't.

Bit of a flawed game to try and pick and choose thresholds, but each to their own.

[Leicester Loyal]

pgh said:

TTwiggy said:

Yes. Let's remember that left-wing/remain politicians get violently murdered in the street by people shouting 'Britain first', while right-wing/leave politicians (or whatever Tommy Robinson is this week) get milkshaken.

Physical attacks are just fine as long as it's against the people you don't like?

How did you get to the position of arguing for undermining of democracy and also excusing this sort of behaviour?

Yes, 'that's not ok, except when we do it against people we don't like'

Laughable. Although I cannot say I'm surprised that some people have taken this stance, I pity them.

[TTwiggy]

pgh said:

TTwiggy said:

Yes. Let's remember that left-wing/remain politicians get violently murdered in the street by people shouting 'Britain first', while right-wing/leave politicians (or whatever Tommy Robinson is this week) get milkshaken.

Physical attacks are just fine as long as it's against the people you don't like?

How did you get to the position of arguing for undermining of democracy and also excusing this sort of behaviour?

And so the twisting begins. You brought Jo Cox into this. I'm just pointing out that it's a poor attempt at equivalence.

And you're going to have a difficult time finding examples of me 'arguing for undermining democracy'. I have consistently said that I accept we are leaving, while reserving the right to believe it's a stupid idea.