Nigel Farage Launches New Brexit Party.
Discussion
crankedup said:
Seeing Brexit to fruition is the first main ambition, clearly the established party’s have decided to lie, misrepresent, ignore and frustrate the 17.4 million voters who have instructed Government as per referendum.
The Brexit Party also has ambitions beyond the main objective, that is to oust the established Party’s to where they richly deserve to be, gone and best forgotten.
Apart from their raison-d’etre what does the Brexit Party represent?The Brexit Party also has ambitions beyond the main objective, that is to oust the established Party’s to where they richly deserve to be, gone and best forgotten.
All I hear is the usual waffle from the self-appointed brexiteer-in-chief, Farage, and nothing in the way in substance. He was interviewed on the local news earlier today and virtually everything he said was sound bites and sloganeering and nothing about what his party stands for on any range of issues besides Brexit.
If, by some miracle, he, as you proclaim, ousts the established parties and achieves some power, what then? What’s their position on the NHS, schools, defence, etc? There’s nothing at all.
I’m afraid you’re all be taken for a ride with St Nige. He’s an expert of sniping from the sidelines and revels in being the anti-establishment politician despite being a fully paid up member of the establishment he proclaims to despise and knows if Brexit is/was a success he would sink into obscurity and that simply wouldn’t do. The failure of Brexit is mana from heaven for Farage and he’ll milk it for all it’s worth.
By all means push and campaign for Brexit if that is what you voted for but not with this charlatan. He’ll only disappoint you in the long run.
valiant said:
Loving that. Anyone voting for or listening to Farage is a complete moron.
He does posturing very well but as an MEP he has been a complete joke. Sadly, the easily led fall for him. He is the idiots Stephen Fry. And SF is only impressive if you are easy to impress.
The problem is that farage supporters are all a bit dunning kruger.
valiant said:
All I hear is the usual waffle from the self-appointed brexiteer-in-chief, Farage, and nothing in the way in substance. He was interviewed on the local news earlier today and virtually everything he said was sound bites and sloganeering and nothing about what his party stands for on any range of issues besides Brexit.
If, by some miracle, he, as you proclaim, ousts the established parties and achieves some power, what then? What’s their position on the NHS, schools, defence, etc? There’s nothing at all.
And yet the anti-Farage brigade are trying to entice and fund Lord Buckethead into standing against him. That'll be the Lord Buckethead with bundles of sensible policies on the NHS, schools, defence, etc.If, by some miracle, he, as you proclaim, ousts the established parties and achieves some power, what then? What’s their position on the NHS, schools, defence, etc? There’s nothing at all.
valiant said:
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If, by some miracle, he, as you proclaim, ousts the established parties and achieves some power, what then? What’s their position on the NHS, schools, defence, etc? There’s nothing at all.
Does the Brexit party need a policy on all those things for the EU elections??If, by some miracle, he, as you proclaim, ousts the established parties and achieves some power, what then? What’s their position on the NHS, schools, defence, etc? There’s nothing at all.
valiant said:
I’m afraid you’re all be taken for a ride with St Nige. He’s an expert of sniping from the sidelines and revels in being the anti-establishment politician despite being a fully paid up member of the establishment he proclaims to despise and knows if Brexit is/was a success he would sink into obscurity and that simply wouldn’t do. The failure of Brexit is mana from heaven for Farage and he’ll milk it for all it’s worth.
By all means push and campaign for Brexit if that is what you voted for but not with this charlatan. He’ll only disappoint you in the long run.
If Parliament don't cobble together some form of leave by staying and then cancel the requirement for EU elections (and that's my guess as to what will happen) then who would you suggest that people vote forBy all means push and campaign for Brexit if that is what you voted for but not with this charlatan. He’ll only disappoint you in the long run.
Lib Dems - position is clear
Labour - lord knows what their position is as it's far from clear
Conservatives - see labour but with a clear deal that is far from leave and as unpopular as a fart in a space suit
sas62 said:
valiant said:
All I hear is the usual waffle from the self-appointed brexiteer-in-chief, Farage, and nothing in the way in substance. He was interviewed on the local news earlier today and virtually everything he said was sound bites and sloganeering and nothing about what his party stands for on any range of issues besides Brexit.
If, by some miracle, he, as you proclaim, ousts the established parties and achieves some power, what then? What’s their position on the NHS, schools, defence, etc? There’s nothing at all.
And yet the anti-Farage brigade are trying to entice and fund Lord Buckethead into standing against him. That'll be the Lord Buckethead with bundles of sensible policies on the NHS, schools, defence, etc.If, by some miracle, he, as you proclaim, ousts the established parties and achieves some power, what then? What’s their position on the NHS, schools, defence, etc? There’s nothing at all.
The fact that Lord Buckethead has the same amount of policies on anything other than Brexit should be a worry to you.
Engelberger said:
valiant said:
Loving that. Anyone voting for or listening to Farage is a complete moron.
He does posturing very well but as an MEP he has been a complete joke. Sadly, the easily led fall for him. He is the idiots Stephen Fry. And SF is only impressive if you are easy to impress.
The problem is that farage supporters are all a bit dunning kruger.
You've used moron which is much more effective than just calling people thick but you did get easily led in there as a "poor and misguided"
Bonus point for "idiots"
Chuck a few statements in about being "racist" or "xenophobic" maybe even just do the "brown people" thing next time
It'll really help
Engelberger said:
valiant said:
Loving that. Anyone voting for or listening to Farage is a complete moron.
He does posturing very well but as an MEP he has been a complete joke. Sadly, the easily led fall for him. He is the idiots Stephen Fry. And SF is only impressive if you are easy to impress.
The problem is that farage supporters are all a bit dunning kruger.
Eddieslofart said:
Engelberger said:
valiant said:
Loving that. Anyone voting for or listening to Farage is a complete moron.
He does posturing very well but as an MEP he has been a complete joke. Sadly, the easily led fall for him. He is the idiots Stephen Fry. And SF is only impressive if you are easy to impress.
The problem is that farage supporters are all a bit dunning kruger.
B'stard Child said:
valiant said:
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If, by some miracle, he, as you proclaim, ousts the established parties and achieves some power, what then? What’s their position on the NHS, schools, defence, etc? There’s nothing at all.
Does the Brexit party need a policy on all those things for the EU elections??If, by some miracle, he, as you proclaim, ousts the established parties and achieves some power, what then? What’s their position on the NHS, schools, defence, etc? There’s nothing at all.
I expect that once his aims are achieved, the party will be disbanded.
sas62 said:
And yet the anti-Farage brigade are trying to entice and fund Lord Buckethead into standing against him. That'll be the Lord Buckethead with bundles of sensible policies on the NHS, schools, defence, etc.
Top whataboutism!!Never mind that Farrage has nothing to say of any substance, what about Lord Buckethead!!
monkfish1 said:
B'stard Child said:
valiant said:
<snip>
If, by some miracle, he, as you proclaim, ousts the established parties and achieves some power, what then? What’s their position on the NHS, schools, defence, etc? There’s nothing at all.
Does the Brexit party need a policy on all those things for the EU elections??If, by some miracle, he, as you proclaim, ousts the established parties and achieves some power, what then? What’s their position on the NHS, schools, defence, etc? There’s nothing at all.
I expect that once his aims are achieved, the party will be disbanded.
Anyone calling Farage a moron clearly hasn't been paying much attention the past few years. Whatever anyone says about him he has proven to be an incredibly effective campaigner, rouser and focal point. Probably the most talented politician in these aspects since Tony Blair.
Clearly many will feel he has played some awfully dishonest games, the train of refugees poster in the run up to the vote was the big one for me. Strange it got so little focus, the nonsense on the bus that didn't convince anyone got all the hot air, the undoubtably effective but utterly dishonest poster semi-ignored. It was shameful stuff but that is Farage to a tee, it's all water of a ducks back to him. Watch him carefully, very carefully, he gets away with all the nonsense establishment politicians used to get shot down for, but somehow manages to teflon his way out of every situation. That is pretty refined talent, don't pretend for a second he is anything other than a very adept politician with a carefully refined skill set, total a
hole or not no one can deny he is very talented at what he does.
Clearly many will feel he has played some awfully dishonest games, the train of refugees poster in the run up to the vote was the big one for me. Strange it got so little focus, the nonsense on the bus that didn't convince anyone got all the hot air, the undoubtably effective but utterly dishonest poster semi-ignored. It was shameful stuff but that is Farage to a tee, it's all water of a ducks back to him. Watch him carefully, very carefully, he gets away with all the nonsense establishment politicians used to get shot down for, but somehow manages to teflon his way out of every situation. That is pretty refined talent, don't pretend for a second he is anything other than a very adept politician with a carefully refined skill set, total a
hole or not no one can deny he is very talented at what he does.NJH said:
Anyone calling Farage a moron clearly hasn't been paying much attention the past few years. Whatever anyone says about him he has proven to be an incredibly effective campaigner, rouser and focal point. Probably the most talented politician in these aspects since Tony Blair.
Clearly many will feel he has played some awfully dishonest games, the train of refugees poster in the run up to the vote was the big one for me. Strange it got so little focus, the nonsense on the bus that didn't convince anyone got all the hot air, the undoubtably effective but utterly dishonest poster semi-ignored. It was shameful stuff but that is Farage to a tee, it's all water of a ducks back to him. Watch him carefully, very carefully, he gets away with all the nonsense establishment politicians used to get shot down for, but somehow manages to teflon his way out of every situation. That is pretty refined talent, don't pretend for a second he is anything other than a very adept politician with a carefully refined skill set, total ahole or not no one can deny he is very talented at what he does.
The bus was nothing to do with Farage. Clearly many will feel he has played some awfully dishonest games, the train of refugees poster in the run up to the vote was the big one for me. Strange it got so little focus, the nonsense on the bus that didn't convince anyone got all the hot air, the undoubtably effective but utterly dishonest poster semi-ignored. It was shameful stuff but that is Farage to a tee, it's all water of a ducks back to him. Watch him carefully, very carefully, he gets away with all the nonsense establishment politicians used to get shot down for, but somehow manages to teflon his way out of every situation. That is pretty refined talent, don't pretend for a second he is anything other than a very adept politician with a carefully refined skill set, total a
hole or not no one can deny he is very talented at what he does.NJH said:
Anyone calling Farage a moron clearly hasn't been paying much attention the past few years. Whatever anyone says about him he has proven to be an incredibly effective campaigner, rouser and focal point. Probably the most talented politician in these aspects since Tony Blair.
Clearly many will feel he has played some awfully dishonest games, the train of refugees poster in the run up to the vote was the big one for me. Strange it got so little focus, the nonsense on the bus that didn't convince anyone got all the hot air, the undoubtably effective but utterly dishonest poster semi-ignored. It was shameful stuff but that is Farage to a tee, it's all water of a ducks back to him. Watch him carefully, very carefully, he gets away with all the nonsense establishment politicians used to get shot down for, but somehow manages to teflon his way out of every situation. That is pretty refined talent, don't pretend for a second he is anything other than a very adept politician with a carefully refined skill set, total ahole or not no one can deny he is very talented at what he does.
I agree. But he does do it all for himself. Many would argue that all politicians do but I think he takes it to the extreme. Especially with regards the point above about demolishing not building. Clearly many will feel he has played some awfully dishonest games, the train of refugees poster in the run up to the vote was the big one for me. Strange it got so little focus, the nonsense on the bus that didn't convince anyone got all the hot air, the undoubtably effective but utterly dishonest poster semi-ignored. It was shameful stuff but that is Farage to a tee, it's all water of a ducks back to him. Watch him carefully, very carefully, he gets away with all the nonsense establishment politicians used to get shot down for, but somehow manages to teflon his way out of every situation. That is pretty refined talent, don't pretend for a second he is anything other than a very adept politician with a carefully refined skill set, total a
hole or not no one can deny he is very talented at what he does.Hosenbugler said:
NJH said:
Anyone calling Farage a moron clearly hasn't been paying much attention the past few years. Whatever anyone says about him he has proven to be an incredibly effective campaigner, rouser and focal point. Probably the most talented politician in these aspects since Tony Blair.
Clearly many will feel he has played some awfully dishonest games, the train of refugees poster in the run up to the vote was the big one for me. Strange it got so little focus, the nonsense on the bus that didn't convince anyone got all the hot air, the undoubtably effective but utterly dishonest poster semi-ignored. It was shameful stuff but that is Farage to a tee, it's all water of a ducks back to him. Watch him carefully, very carefully, he gets away with all the nonsense establishment politicians used to get shot down for, but somehow manages to teflon his way out of every situation. That is pretty refined talent, don't pretend for a second he is anything other than a very adept politician with a carefully refined skill set, total ahole or not no one can deny he is very talented at what he does.
The bus was nothing to do with Farage. Clearly many will feel he has played some awfully dishonest games, the train of refugees poster in the run up to the vote was the big one for me. Strange it got so little focus, the nonsense on the bus that didn't convince anyone got all the hot air, the undoubtably effective but utterly dishonest poster semi-ignored. It was shameful stuff but that is Farage to a tee, it's all water of a ducks back to him. Watch him carefully, very carefully, he gets away with all the nonsense establishment politicians used to get shot down for, but somehow manages to teflon his way out of every situation. That is pretty refined talent, don't pretend for a second he is anything other than a very adept politician with a carefully refined skill set, total a
hole or not no one can deny he is very talented at what he does.Randy Winkman said:
I agree. But he does do it all for himself. Many would argue that all politicians do but I think he takes it to the extreme. Especially with regards the point above about demolishing not building.
Whatever drives him, as he seems intent on demolishing the privilege and entitlement that many in this country believe pervade our ruling parties, he seems to be picking up an awful lot of support from across the political spectrum. Even if all he does is to force a realignment of politics and shake our political class from its complacency and remoteness, that is surely a good thing?
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