Nigel Farage Launches New Brexit Party.
Discussion
chrispmartha said:
TeamD said:
chrispmartha said:
TeamD said:
digimeistter said:
chrispmartha said:
Yet you’ve just quoted me, twice.
Do you feel special? Supercilious Sid said:
This thread has been hilarious to read of late. It resembles Hitler's bunker in Downfall as Pita and other assorted snowflakes muster imaginary smear after imaginary smear against Farage as acts of utter broken desperation.
I think it’s utterly depressing.A load of dissatisfied people, convinced the E.U. is somehow the source of their problems and even worse, that voting for Farage in an E.U. referendum will in any way make their lot any better.
Love or hate Farage and vote for him or not, you have to admire the size/scale of the organisation that The Brexit Party has successfully been able to mobilise, inside just a few months (this thread started on 12 April). And the sheer amount of excitement, fury, passion, jealousy, fear and resentment they've managed to whip up amongst the public and the other parties in the same short time. None of the other parties know what's hit them, they're all still tying their shoelaces and putting their anoraks on ready to go out to the park later.
Compare with the TIG/Change lot (or whatever they are called now) who are utterly floundering and just coming up with completely bonkers ideas about taxes on using self-checkout machines as a way to heal Brexit divides, WTAF.
Compare with the TIG/Change lot (or whatever they are called now) who are utterly floundering and just coming up with completely bonkers ideas about taxes on using self-checkout machines as a way to heal Brexit divides, WTAF.
El stovey said:
I think it’s utterly depressing.
A load of dissatisfied people, convinced the E.U. is somehow the source of their problems and even worse, that voting for Farage in an E.U. referendum will in any way make their lot any better.
I think that’s totally missing the point. This is no longer about the EU, it’s about people’s anger that the politicians who claim to represent us, actually only represent their own interests. Voting for Farage is the equivalent of throwing a grenade in the middle of it all. I’m voting for him in the same way I voted independent in our local elections. A load of dissatisfied people, convinced the E.U. is somehow the source of their problems and even worse, that voting for Farage in an E.U. referendum will in any way make their lot any better.
Vanden Saab said:
It seems Led by Donkeys Greenpeace have history for not registering as a campaign during elections. Last time it was a £30,000 fine. Piha must be delighted that his donation to the crowdfunder will be used for diesel for one of their boats. To pay the fine.
I wonder how much the fine will be for a second offence?
The fact that a certain poster has been hoodwinked by Greenpeace while repeatedly posting about TBP not being above board is delicious.
Interesting. My first thought on reading Guido's 'reveal' piece was that they were patsies for a group with a higher profile who didn't want to be seen using negative campaigning.naughty greenpeace said:
Greenpeace UK fined for defying Lobbying Act
Publication date: 19th April 2017
Wednesday 19th April, 2017, London – Greenpeace UK has been fined £30,000 by the Electoral Commission for taking a principled stand against the controversial Lobbying Act.
In the run-up to the 2015 election the environmental group refused to register as a ‘third-party campaigning organisation’ under the new law.
Publication date: 19th April 2017
Wednesday 19th April, 2017, London – Greenpeace UK has been fined £30,000 by the Electoral Commission for taking a principled stand against the controversial Lobbying Act.
In the run-up to the 2015 election the environmental group refused to register as a ‘third-party campaigning organisation’ under the new law.
I wonder how much the fine will be for a second offence?
The fact that a certain poster has been hoodwinked by Greenpeace while repeatedly posting about TBP not being above board is delicious.
Might still turn out to be the case...
paulrockliffe said:
Thanks for promoting this.One sentence from it "There are few things that the Brits like less than sore losers; there is little they value more than playing by the rules."
Logically the EU can't be the source of all our problems. If we didn't have a conniving, cowardly bunch of liars running the main parties we wouldn't be in the EU in the first place.
There are deeper rooted problems which have enabled the main parties to be run by such creatures, and they all need to be addressed. The EU has really just become the battle ground upon which this is being played out.
There are deeper rooted problems which have enabled the main parties to be run by such creatures, and they all need to be addressed. The EU has really just become the battle ground upon which this is being played out.
wormus said:
El stovey said:
I think it’s utterly depressing.
A load of dissatisfied people, convinced the E.U. is somehow the source of their problems and even worse, that voting for Farage in an E.U. referendum will in any way make their lot any better.
I think that’s totally missing the point. This is no longer about the EU, it’s about people’s anger that the politicians who claim to represent us, actually only represent their own interests. Voting for Farage is the equivalent of throwing a grenade in the middle of it all. I’m voting for him in the same way I voted independent in our local elections. A load of dissatisfied people, convinced the E.U. is somehow the source of their problems and even worse, that voting for Farage in an E.U. referendum will in any way make their lot any better.
What exactly are you unhappy about that you think voting for the brexit party will help? Do you think Farage will represent you and solve any of these problems? Do you think voting for Farage will actually lead to some kind of reset to an already thriving western economy?
Seems like a recipe for even more disappointment to me. Surely the answer is not to put your faith in politicians in the first place, they’re not your team, just view them like any utility provider. Just concentrate on improving your lot and vote for who you think will do the best job each election?
Most if not all politicians are there to get re-elected. Farage hasn’t even got elected into parliament despite numerous attempts. He’s the answer to nothing.
Another quote from the Unherd piece which a couple of posts immediately above are prime examples.
"Farage’s return is a clear symptom of his opponents’ complete failure to make sense of our post-referendum world. As a result, they are baffled and wrong-footed by his return. Farage has outplayed them all. But rather than meet this moment with imagination, too many in our politics and media have shown that they have no imagination at all. Rather than chart a new course, many have sought shelter in the dusty attic from which they plucked the unsuccessful arguments of 2016.
.... Ideas have left the building."
"Farage’s return is a clear symptom of his opponents’ complete failure to make sense of our post-referendum world. As a result, they are baffled and wrong-footed by his return. Farage has outplayed them all. But rather than meet this moment with imagination, too many in our politics and media have shown that they have no imagination at all. Rather than chart a new course, many have sought shelter in the dusty attic from which they plucked the unsuccessful arguments of 2016.
.... Ideas have left the building."
Off to vote for TBP soon, just can't decide what to wear.
A bit warm for the KKK hood, and the flaming torch doesn't flaming help.
Could go for the grammar nazi look I suppose, but again, touch warm
for jackboots. Now what have I got that doesn't clash with milkshakes,.
Oh, talking of milkshakes, as highly naughty as it was, it was a change to see
good old fashioned water being used by an oppressed member of the working class.
None of this £25 a go salted caramel crap thrown by a bourgeoisie, capitalist enemy
of the people.
Got to dash, Nige's outside with the limo. Toodle Pip.
El stovey said:
Seems like a recipe for even more disappointment to me. Surely the answer is not to put your faith in politicians in the first place, they’re not your team, just view them like any utility provider. Just concentrate on improving your lot and vote for who you think will do the best job each election?
Is that not we're doing? I think it is."My lot" is built on the foundation of democracy, recent events have seriously damaged that foundation. Repairing the foundation is the most important improvement that can be made to "my lot" at this point in time
El stovey said:
wormus said:
El stovey said:
I think it’s utterly depressing.
A load of dissatisfied people, convinced the E.U. is somehow the source of their problems and even worse, that voting for Farage in an E.U. referendum will in any way make their lot any better.
I think that’s totally missing the point. This is no longer about the EU, it’s about people’s anger that the politicians who claim to represent us, actually only represent their own interests. Voting for Farage is the equivalent of throwing a grenade in the middle of it all. I’m voting for him in the same way I voted independent in our local elections. A load of dissatisfied people, convinced the E.U. is somehow the source of their problems and even worse, that voting for Farage in an E.U. referendum will in any way make their lot any better.
What exactly are you unhappy about that you think voting for the brexit party will help? Do you think Farage will represent you and solve any of these problems? Do you think voting for Farage will actually lead to some kind of reset to an already thriving western economy?
Seems like a recipe for even more disappointment to me. Surely the answer is not to put your faith in politicians in the first place, they’re not your team, just view them like any utility provider. Just concentrate on improving your lot and vote for who you think will do the best job each election?
Most if not all politicians are there to get re-elected. Farage hasn’t even got elected into parliament despite numerous attempts. He’s the answer to nothing.
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