Climate protesters block roads

[Biker 1]

Just leave 'em glued there. Surely there is an alternative entrance?
Patience must be wearing very thin by now.

[FourWheelDrift]

They're glued together, so they can't respond to anyone doing anything to them, such as putting placards around their necks saying "More personal rights for Cheese", "We love cake" or "Polar Bears must die".

[The Don of Croy]

FourWheelDrift said:

They're glued together, so they can't respond to anyone doing anything to them, such as putting placards around their necks saying "More personal rights for Cheese", "We love cake" or "Polar Bears must die".

My choice would be "Badger fracking now!".

[FourWheelDrift]

or hack their LED displays and start showing the current stock prices.

[Yertis]

FourWheelDrift said:

or hack their LED displays and start showing the current stock prices.

The single (very) useful thing I've learned from these protests is that WD40 dissolves cyanoacrylate glue. (Not tried it yet though.)

[Mort7]

Seem to me that the obvious answer would be to hold a fire drill. Hundreds of people coming past them from behind - some of whom would presumably take out their frustration on them one way or another - might make them rethink their strategy.

[jfire]

FourWheelDrift said:

or hack their LED displays and start showing the current stock prices.

I quite liked that skeleton horse with the stock ticker which previously occupied the 4th plinth at Trafalgar Square.

I took that to mean, considering the name of the piece 'gifthorse' that our economic model and its benefits should not be taken for granted. Arty lefties no doubt had a different interpretation.

[chrispmartha]

jet_noise said:

chrispmartha said:

No she has received payments though, she also has never done any field based study on Polar Bears nor published any peer reviewed papers, why do you trust what she says over someone like this?

https://polarbearsinternational.org/profiles/dr-st...

Because the criticisms of Dr Crockford always appear to me to be of this ad hom. variety rather than about her science.
If the science was so robust then that is where the discussion would be decided.

Both Crockford and the Scientist I linked to both know far more than you, I or anyone on this forum about Polar Bears, I am asking why should Crockfords position be trusted over another scientist who has had peer reviewd papers on the subject and has actually studied them in the field?

[Aphex]

funkyrobot said:

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Who are they going to stop, the elderly and infirm?

[jet_noise]

chrispmartha said:

jet_noise said:

Because the criticisms of Dr Crockford always appear to me to be of this ad hom. variety rather than about her science.
If the science was so robust then that is where the discussion would be decided.

Both Crockford and the Scientist I linked to both know far more than you, I or anyone on this forum about Polar Bears, I am asking why should Crockfords position be trusted over another scientist who has had peer reviewd papers on the subject and has actually studied them in the field?

The criticisms above are not only in discussions such as these but also by the scientists with whom she disagrees.

[sanguinary]

The Stock Exchange should have used a different entrance and positioned a 6 foot 'safety barrier' directly in front of them.

[3.1416]

Why the fascination with polar bears (which appear to be abundant - and no I do not wish to meet one)?

Meet bilharzia - don't wish to meet these parasites either.

Money better spent here.

https://m.health24.com/medical/infectious-diseases...

We all know why - three letters - W W and F and they are ever so photogenic when not covered in the juices if their latest slaughter.

Back to crusty - hopefully not covered in slaughter juices by now.

[wc98]

chrispmartha said:

Both Crockford and the Scientist I linked to both know far more than you, I or anyone on this forum about Polar Bears, I am asking why should Crockfords position be trusted over another scientist who has had peer reviewd papers on the subject and has actually studied them in the field?

ok, so we go with the science, link provided a couple of pages back.
"During a comprehensive summertime aerial survey in 2009 and 2010 (based on distance sampling and double-observer estimation) covering about 40,000 km each year, 816 and 1003 bears were observed, respectively (Stapleton et al. 2016). This most recent study yielded an abundance estimate of 2585 (95% CI: 2096 – 3189) polar bears (Stapleton et al. 2016), which is not statistically different from the 1994 estimate indicating a stable population. Sea ice habitat for polar bears has decreased substantially for polar bears over the last several decades in FB (Sahanatien and Derocher 2012)."
http://pbsg.npolar.no/en/status/populations/foxe-b...

now that's one area with a high-ish population of bears. the money quote is the substantial decrease in sea ice having no effect on the polar bear population. they are basically brown bears that have evolved to live on and around sea ice. i don't see grizzlies struggling to survive without ice anywhere. as seal populations in the northern hemisphere have rocketed since the hunting bans 'the only threat to polar bears is hunting by humans and that is strictly controlled. given the annual temperature fluctuations they currently manage just fine with ,0.8c in a hundred years is also unlikely to be an issue.

[Jinx]

chrispmartha said:

Both Crockford and the Scientist I linked to both know far more than you, I or anyone on this forum about Polar Bears, I am asking why should Crockfords position be trusted over another scientist who has had peer reviewd papers on the subject and has actually studied them in the field?

Because the scientists who have "studied them in the field" rely on funding which itself relies on Polar Bears being an endangered species.

[Biker 1]

Yertis said:

The single (very) useful thing I've learned from these protests is that WD40 dissolves cyanoacrylate glue. (Not tried it yet though.)

Interesting guide: https://www.cleanipedia.com/gb/in-the-home/remove-...

[Supercilious Sid]

Yertis said:

The single (very) useful thing I've learned from these protests is that WD40 dissolves cyanoacrylate glue. (Not tried it yet though.)

It is also very useful for cleaning Atlas ICBMs.

[Biker 1]

Looks like JC's brother is madder than I thought:
https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/25/greta-thunberg-igno...

[Supercilious Sid]

Biker 1 said:

Looks like JC's brother is madder than I thought:
https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/25/greta-thunberg-igno...

I like the first comment on the article

'A ridiculous thing to say. I get all of my advice off of autistic teenagers with no life experience'

[Alex]

Biker 1 said:

Looks like JC's brother is madder than I thought:
https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/25/greta-thunberg-igno...

I think he's spot on!

[Biker 1]

Alex said:

I think he's spot on!

Piers' long range weather 'forecasts' in the Daily Express are always a good laugh, but yes, on this occasion I'll agree with him.