Climate protesters block roads

[wc98]

Olivera said:

Would it be incorrect to place all these protestors into one of three demographics:

1) Climate change hippies
2) Perma-students
3) Giffers on a pension and with nothing better to do

I'm genuinely curious as to the rate of 'economically inactive' in this bunch versus the societal average.

bound to be a few hand wringers that genuinely believe we are all doomed in 12 years ,but i think you are spot on.

[Helicopter123]

Integroo said:

The number of climate change deniers on this forum has to be the biggest sign that it is full of closed minded, right wing individuals with extreme views. The science is established and clear. Consensus among experts is 90-97%. Almost all papers against climate change come from right-wing think tanks which are dubiously funded. There is nothing to deny or debate.

N.B. I think the protestors are work-shy hippies that will achieve nothing other than disrupt commutes and annoy people.

Agree 100%

[FiF]

TeamD said:

FiF said:

Even if you support their cause, it's the case that UK has done more than almost any other nation to reduce carbon emissions, to the extent that it's arguable the nation has been placed at a disadvantage and certain avoidable risks.

No different to our implementation of EU regs as opposed to the likes of the French etc

And your point in this context is?

[garagewidow]

[quote=AJL308][quote=jfire]It's also convenient for them to blame the government for not doing enough despite only 43% of our electricity now coming from fossil fuels.

How do we produce the remaining 57%?

[TeamD]

FiF said:

TeamD said:

FiF said:

Even if you support their cause, it's the case that UK has done more than almost any other nation to reduce carbon emissions, to the extent that it's arguable the nation has been placed at a disadvantage and certain avoidable risks.

No different to our implementation of EU regs as opposed to the likes of the French etc

And your point in this context is?

Point being that we end up implementing stuff in a far more black&white way than other nations, thus agreeing with your premise that we have potentially disadvantaged ourselves.

[Mort7]

Shortsighed, counterproductive and naive.

Shortsighted, because this is unlikely to attract anyone to their cause. Counterproductive, because the chaos that they've created will have increased congestion and therefore pollution in the affected areas. Naive, because as has already been mentioned, the problems that they are concerned about are symptoms of a much greater problem - overpopulation.

Still, it gives them somewhere to take their kids during the Easter break.

[Blakewater]

It's probably worth getting some DWP investigators down there. These things usually show up some sprightly looking people who are claiming disability benefits on the basis of not being able to walk more than two steps with a pair of crutches.

Someone I know took part in a protest a few months ago about ending violence against women. Something all right minded people would support. However, it involved a load of people, mainly from a university, blocking a busy road junction whilst waving banners at the people they were holding up.

She didn't seem to want to grasp my point when I tried to explain that annoying a load of people going about their business and making them feel aggressive towards all those women was really the best way to go about trying to gain support for their cause.

Block roads and you could be preventing people getting to job interviews or hospital, potentially ruining or even endangering people's lives.

None of this disruption is anything to do with the climate in reality. It's a few people who want a Communist state and they're enjoying the power trip of causing disruption to people's lives. Saying they're protesting about climate change is just a self righteous front.

[ATG]

Ridgemont said:

4 of the off duty teachers protesters have glued themselves to another failed geography teacher’s front fence.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/04/17/extinc...

I'm prepared to forgive them quite a lot for doing this.

[T-195]

Helicopter123 said:

Integroo said:

The number of climate change deniers on this forum has to be the biggest sign that it is full of closed minded, right wing individuals with extreme views. The science is established and clear. Consensus among experts is 90-97%. Almost all papers against climate change come from right-wing think tanks which are dubiously funded. There is nothing to deny or debate.

N.B. I think the protestors are work-shy hippies that will achieve nothing other than disrupt commutes and annoy people.

Agree 100%

I couldn't be less right wing, these people are a bunch of s.

Next question.

[Integroo]

T-195 said:

I couldn't be less right wing, these people are a bunch of s.

Next question.

I don't disagree.

[ape x]

Pesty said:

Do they glue themselves to trains?

They do Nazi salutes, I know it's only antisemitic when a 'lefty' critizes the Israeli government, but you get my point.
Plenty of Tommy's protests has caused disruption and damage...
It's sort of the fking point of a protest...fk me...
"I am going to protest.....but stay at home on my own so as not to cause any disruption.. that'llll show them!!!"

Admit it, you don't like protests if it is protesting about something you disagree with...
It's fine, it's human nature....
Me I hate all protesters both sets who hang about outside HP waving pro or anti Brexit flags need fking culling...
Farage matching and protesting ..fking all need culling..

If Brexit was cancelled do you not think there would be a protest organized?? One I imagine that would be a lot bigger than any seen before...?
Will we see a thread about that protest on PH slagging them off?

Edited by ape x on Wednesday 17th April 19:40

[RemyMartin81D]

So basically they are going to associate their subject of protest in londoners minds(and the rUK) as disruptive s. I don't even know where to start with the hypocrisy in every eat possible with them. Not really the way to get your point across.

[ape x]

RemyMartin81D said:

So basically they are going to associate their subject of process in londoners minds(and the rUK) as disruptive s. I don't even know where to start with the hypocrisy in every eat possible with them. Not really the way to get your point across.

You are not getting the concept of protest are you...
Have ever seen or heard of a protest that didn't cause a level of disruption?

[TeamD]

ape x said:

Pesty said:

Do they glue themselves to trains?

They do Nazi salutes, I know it's only antisemitic when a 'lefty' critizes the Israeli government, but you get my point.
Plenty of Tommy's protests has caused disruption and damage...
It's sort of the fking point of a protest...fk me...
"I am going to protest.....but stay at home on my own so as not to cause any disruption.. that'llll show them!!!"

Admit it, you don't like protests if it is protesting about something you disagree with...
It's fine, it's human nature....
Me I hate all protesters both sets who hang about outside HP waving pro or anti Brexit flags need fking culling...
Farage matching and protesting ..fking all need culling..

Impressive diatribe, if a little ranty

[dreamcracker]

Integroo said:

Mothersruin said:

AJL308 said:

poo at Paul's said:

I call bks on your assertion that it is "without doubt the biggest challenge we will face". Ignoring the fact that many don't buy the science at all, even if we assume it is 100% conclusive, I think there are greater challenges to face. Seriously, this century, and bearing in mind we are near a fifth of the way through it, do you see the "end of mankind" more likely from climate change, or a Kim Jong Ill nuke?

Mankind has adapted and evolved over millions of years to the species we are now, and we continue to evolve as a species every day. Why can man survive in the climatic conditions we see nowadays and on the planet for the last thousand years, ie from the polar regions where temps rarely exceed zero, and there are months of darkness, to tropical and arid regions etc where temps rarely fall below 40 degrees! Do you honestly think it mankind will not survive even a huge increase in global temp of say 5 degrees over 100 years? Of course they would, we both know that and that is not going to happen anyway, even according tot he most pessimistic climate change scientists.

So whilst it may be something mankind may or may not have to adapt to, adapt to it they most certainly will, ….....easily. Yes, some communities will change, populated areas may disappear, people will move and live in other places...…..but that has been happening for the last thousand years, never mind the last 80, so what's "new"..? Answer, nothing, really.

Now, if you want to look at what will potentially kill off either the whole of mankind / species or at least large swathes of it, there's far larger and more immediate risks IMHO. Nukes, chemical weapons, super viruses, flu pandemic...…..far more risky than climate change.

Entirely sensible and pragmatic. I disagree that there is much risk to mankind from the Fat Korean though. He doesn't have an arsenal and any use by him in anger would simply result in the utter destruction of his country. Mankind will survive him and his ilk easily.

As you say, hitherto unknown or not yet extant diseases are a far bigger potential threat than global warming. Spanish Flu of 1919 anyone? Humanity spent the previous four years slaughtering each other on an industrial scale, I mean it probably wasn't physically possible to kill people at a faster rate with the technology then available, yet the Spanish flu killed at least twice as many in less than half the time. Given how easy we move around today we may well be wiped out by the next one.

Good - we're a parasite and should be exterminated as such.

That'll save the planet.

Until the next thing.

This just happens to be one species fking it up.

The arrogance to think we can do anything in real terms (think geological time-frames) is astounding.

Can you guys please let me know your credentials? Given you seem to be disagreeing with the experts, you must know something they don't.

All the so called climate change Scientists are paid by the government.
Without the climate change nonsense they would all be working in fast food restaurants or supermarkets filling shelves.

[billshoreham]

Integroo said:
The number of climate change deniers on this forum has to be the biggest sign that it is full of closed minded, right wing individuals with extreme views. The science is established and clear. Consensus among experts is 90-97%. Almost all papers against climate change come from right-wing think tanks which are dubiously funded. There is nothing to deny or debate.

N.B. I think the protestors are work-shy hippies that will achieve nothing other than disrupt commutes and annoy people.

first paragraph is correct, but "work-shy hippies". You sound like a throwback from the 1960's

[Budflicker]

If somebody glues themselves to something why can't we just leave them glued there?

I'm sure after a few days sitting in there own urine and faeces they will be begging to be unstuck.

[TeamD]

billshoreham said:

Integroo said:
The number of climate change deniers on this forum has to be the biggest sign that it is full of closed minded, right wing individuals with extreme views. The science is established and clear. Consensus among experts is 90-97%. Almost all papers against climate change come from right-wing think tanks which are dubiously funded. There is nothing to deny or debate.

N.B. I think the protestors are work-shy hippies that will achieve nothing other than disrupt commutes and annoy people.

first paragraph is correct, but "work-shy hippies". You sound like a throwback from the 1960's

Been called in as reenforcements have you?

[MiniMan64]

garagewidow said:

AJL308 said:

jfire said:

It's also convenient for them to blame the government for not doing enough despite only 43% of our electricity now coming from fossil fuels.

How do we produce the remaining 57%?

https://gridwatch.templar.co.uk/

Knock yourself out, currently:

Coal 3.45%
Nuclear 17.45%
Gas 47.4%
Wind 12.3%
Solar 1%
Biomass 7%
Imported from Europe 2%

Edited by MiniMan64 on Wednesday 17th April 20:04

[Zedboy]

T-195 said:

Helicopter123 said:

Integroo said:

The number of climate change deniers on this forum has to be the biggest sign that it is full of closed minded, right wing individuals with extreme views. The science is established and clear. Consensus among experts is 90-97%. Almost all papers against climate change come from right-wing think tanks which are dubiously funded. There is nothing to deny or debate.

N.B. I think the protestors are work-shy hippies that will achieve nothing other than disrupt commutes and annoy people.

Agree 100%

I couldn't be less right wing, these people are a bunch of s.

Next question.

I walked past them today. Four core groups ... university students, terminally unemployed, middle aged champagne socialists and final-salaried pensioners with blue hair. Hardly representative of tax paying majority. They didn’t want to thank me for supporting them by being PAYE so they can have an Easter holiday on a London Bridge as they were too busy chatting, skateboarding, singing and skulking. A movement for change it ain’t!