Climate protesters block roads

[chrispmartha]

powerstroke said:

Downward said:

Watching Attenborough Climate Change the facts.

It grim stuff, we are destroying the world.

More like Attenborough didn't want to suffer the same fate as David Bellamy
Wonder what he really thinks ???

Good work (it was meant to be sarcasm right?)

[Helicopter123]

johnxjsc1985 said:

These people are very good at telling us what we should stop, they never think of the consequences for people if we make radical and drastic changes. The poor man and woman just trying to get to work or get home having to deal with these idiots deserve a medal for not losing it and lamping one them.
Who thought it was a good Policy to have "catch and release" so they can keep returning to the "protest".

If you think about it from the protesters point of view though, if we are a handful of years away from environmental collapse, and presumably the starvation, death and misery, then asking people to make changes today seems reasonable?

[johnxjsc1985]

Helicopter123 said:

If you think about it from the protesters point of view though, if we are a handful of years away from environmental collapse, and presumably the starvation, death and misery, then asking people to make changes today seems reasonable?

I have absolutely no interest in your posts.

[warch]

johnxjsc1985 said:

Helicopter123 said:

If you think about it from the protesters point of view though, if we are a handful of years away from environmental collapse, and presumably the starvation, death and misery, then asking people to make changes today seems reasonable?

I have absolutely no interest in your posts.

Apart from to read and reply to them obviously

[A Winner Is You]

Helicopter123 said:

johnxjsc1985 said:

These people are very good at telling us what we should stop, they never think of the consequences for people if we make radical and drastic changes. The poor man and woman just trying to get to work or get home having to deal with these idiots deserve a medal for not losing it and lamping one them.
Who thought it was a good Policy to have "catch and release" so they can keep returning to the "protest".

If you think about it from the protesters point of view though, if we are a handful of years away from environmental collapse, and presumably the starvation, death and misery, then asking people to make changes today seems reasonable?

What specific changes should we make to avoid this immanent catastrophe?

[TaylotS2K]

Good to see our overly stretched police force skateboarding and dancing. Bloody "Gov cuts".

[Helicopter123]

A Winner Is You said:

Helicopter123 said:

johnxjsc1985 said:

These people are very good at telling us what we should stop, they never think of the consequences for people if we make radical and drastic changes. The poor man and woman just trying to get to work or get home having to deal with these idiots deserve a medal for not losing it and lamping one them.
Who thought it was a good Policy to have "catch and release" so they can keep returning to the "protest".

If you think about it from the protesters point of view though, if we are a handful of years away from environmental collapse, and presumably the starvation, death and misery, then asking people to make changes today seems reasonable?

What specific changes should we make to avoid this immanent catastrophe?

I have no idea, but whenever I come across a radical and challenging point of view I like to try and understand how and why that position exists, and what the world looks like from that side of the debate. An open mind can help understand issues better than a closed one.

[daniel1920]

A Winner Is You said:

Helicopter123 said:

johnxjsc1985 said:

These people are very good at telling us what we should stop, they never think of the consequences for people if we make radical and drastic changes. The poor man and woman just trying to get to work or get home having to deal with these idiots deserve a medal for not losing it and lamping one them.
Who thought it was a good Policy to have "catch and release" so they can keep returning to the "protest".

If you think about it from the protesters point of view though, if we are a handful of years away from environmental collapse, and presumably the starvation, death and misery, then asking people to make changes today seems reasonable?

What specific changes should we make to avoid this immanent catastrophe?

Quite clear really, glue yourself to some st

[Squiddly Diddly]

Helicopter123 said:

If you think about it from the protesters point of view though, if we are a handful of years away from environmental collapse, and presumably the starvation, death and misery, then asking people to make changes today seems reasonable?

You are correct, we do need changes.

A complete overhaul of the education system.

[SpeedMattersNot]

Squiddly Diddly said:

Helicopter123 said:

If you think about it from the protesters point of view though, if we are a handful of years away from environmental collapse, and presumably the starvation, death and misery, then asking people to make changes today seems reasonable?

You are correct, we do need changes.

A complete overhaul of the education system.

I agree. Decades ago I was taught about these issues and still negligible changes have occurred. It's time we start raising young people who will actually do something about it, rather than just talk about it.

[A Winner Is You]

Helicopter123 said:

A Winner Is You said:

Helicopter123 said:

johnxjsc1985 said:

These people are very good at telling us what we should stop, they never think of the consequences for people if we make radical and drastic changes. The poor man and woman just trying to get to work or get home having to deal with these idiots deserve a medal for not losing it and lamping one them.
Who thought it was a good Policy to have "catch and release" so they can keep returning to the "protest".

If you think about it from the protesters point of view though, if we are a handful of years away from environmental collapse, and presumably the starvation, death and misery, then asking people to make changes today seems reasonable?

What specific changes should we make to avoid this immanent catastrophe?

I have no idea, but whenever I come across a radical and challenging point of view I like to try and understand how and why that position exists, and what the world looks like from that side of the debate. An open mind can help understand issues better than a closed one.

Thus far I've seen a lot demand for action, but none of them seem to be able to explain how this should be done beyond shouting loudly the government must do something. If the situation really is as dire as they claim then radical action must be taken straight away, but if that was banning imported goods, air travel, gas heating systems, mobile phones, private vehicles, or all products made from fossil fuels, how many of them would be in favour?

[The Hypno-Toad]

Squiddly Diddly said:

You are correct, we do need changes.

A complete overhaul of the education system.

Yep, 100% this. As I mentioned before why do we think these demos are being held during these two weeks?

And as someone else mentioned, where do we really think the money to pay for the flags and assorted merchandise is coming from? This bunch have become suspiciously well organised, suspiciously quickly.

[Helicopter123]

A Winner Is You said:

Helicopter123 said:

A Winner Is You said:

Helicopter123 said:

johnxjsc1985 said:

These people are very good at telling us what we should stop, they never think of the consequences for people if we make radical and drastic changes. The poor man and woman just trying to get to work or get home having to deal with these idiots deserve a medal for not losing it and lamping one them.
Who thought it was a good Policy to have "catch and release" so they can keep returning to the "protest".

If you think about it from the protesters point of view though, if we are a handful of years away from environmental collapse, and presumably the starvation, death and misery, then asking people to make changes today seems reasonable?

What specific changes should we make to avoid this immanent catastrophe?

I have no idea, but whenever I come across a radical and challenging point of view I like to try and understand how and why that position exists, and what the world looks like from that side of the debate. An open mind can help understand issues better than a closed one.

Thus far I've seen a lot demand for action, but none of them seem to be able to explain how this should be done beyond shouting loudly the government must do something. If the situation really is as dire as they claim then radical action must be taken straight away, but if that was banning imported goods, air travel, gas heating systems, mobile phones, private vehicles, or all products made from fossil fuels, how many of them would be in favour?

I had (perhaps naively) thought that mitigating Climate Change was baked into virtually every governments mindset globally and that co-ordinated and appropriate action was being taken to deal with it. I'll be honest, I haven't really paid much attention to it for a few years.

So why is this protest happening now?

What has changed?

I would like to understand this - have we seen new science emerge that demands more action from us all?

[NDA]

warch said:

Well everyone's talking about the protests so they have been a success.

Everyone's talking about the protestors - a subtle distinction.

Everyone is talking about what a bunch of tossers they are. If it is a success that people think they are work-shy soap dodgers - then they've achieved their objective.

[motco]

The Hypno-Toad said:

Yep, 100% this. As I mentioned before why do we think these demos are being held during these two weeks?

And as someone else mentioned, where do we really think the money to pay for the flags and assorted merchandise is coming from? This bunch have become suspiciously well organised, suspiciously quickly.

Very good point. I have seen no red (or any other hue, only the slightly sinister logo ones and some hand made rubbish) banners from any known organisation but maybe the media re avoiding showing them if they're there.

[Pan Pan Pan]

A Winner Is You said:

Helicopter123 said:

johnxjsc1985 said:

These people are very good at telling us what we should stop, they never think of the consequences for people if we make radical and drastic changes. The poor man and woman just trying to get to work or get home having to deal with these idiots deserve a medal for not losing it and lamping one them.
Who thought it was a good Policy to have "catch and release" so they can keep returning to the "protest".

If you think about it from the protesters point of view though, if we are a handful of years away from environmental collapse, and presumably the starvation, death and misery, then asking people to make changes today seems reasonable?

What specific changes should we make to avoid this immanent catastrophe?

The Attenborough program failed to overlay the human population growth graph over the graphs showing actual and predicted levels of global warming. Anyone who does that, will notice the distinct correlation between rising CO2 levels, rising global temperatures, and of course rising global population levels.
The problem is that the global warming bleaters don't really want to save the planet, they only want to save the skin disease / growth which has erupted on its surface. They don't care that we are using more, not less of the Earths resources to feed the ever growing demands of an already colossal and growing at an unprecedented rate of the burgeoning human population.
Perhaps among the first positive and actual changes that people can make, is to start limiting how many children they have, to try to achieve a sustainable number of humans on the planet. Unless they start doing that, everything else they want to whinge about is just hypocritical b*ll*x.
Strangely even Attenborough at the end of his last Planet Earth series stated that up till now we have been controlling the Earth for the sake of humans, but that now we must start controlling humans for the sake of the planet.

[Terzo123]

Human population growth has been going on unabated since the Black death. Climate change is a convenient distraction.

We are are long overdue a population correction, whether that's through natural causes (Disease, global famine) or from our own making (War)

Either way millions will die.

That's my cheery thought for the day.

[dandarez]

Helicopter123 said:

A Winner Is You said:

Helicopter123 said:

A Winner Is You said:

Helicopter123 said:

johnxjsc1985 said:

These people are very good at telling us what we should stop, they never think of the consequences for people if we make radical and drastic changes. The poor man and woman just trying to get to work or get home having to deal with these idiots deserve a medal for not losing it and lamping one them.
Who thought it was a good Policy to have "catch and release" so they can keep returning to the "protest".

If you think about it from the protesters point of view though, if we are a handful of years away from environmental collapse, and presumably the starvation, death and misery, then asking people to make changes today seems reasonable?

What specific changes should we make to avoid this immanent catastrophe?

I have no idea, but whenever I come across a radical and challenging point of view I like to try and understand how and why that position exists, and what the world looks like from that side of the debate. An open mind can help understand issues better than a closed one.

Thus far I've seen a lot demand for action, but none of them seem to be able to explain how this should be done beyond shouting loudly the government must do something. If the situation really is as dire as they claim then radical action must be taken straight away, but if that was banning imported goods, air travel, gas heating systems, mobile phones, private vehicles, or all products made from fossil fuels, how many of them would be in favour?

I had (perhaps naively) thought that mitigating Climate Change was baked into virtually every governments mindset globally and that co-ordinated and appropriate action was being taken to deal with it. I'll be honest, I haven't really paid much attention to it for a few years.

So why is this protest happening now?

What has changed?

I would like to understand this - have we seen new science emerge that demands more action from us all?

Well, if you don't know Budgie, you are as about enlightened as the dim fkers in London creating havoc at this point in time now.

You could, if you're a famous Dame (personally, I think she's more Dumb than Dame), fly from the other side of the world (hang on, isn't that what these dicks are telling us not to do?) and go straight to the protests and help the other dim fkers out?
Dumb Emma Thompson is actively encouraging the demo at Heathrow I heard this morning. Thick as mince.
Me? I'm off out with the family to enjoy the sun, and steering well and truly many miles clear of Londonstan.

[T-195]

Reciprocating mass said:

Downward said:

markbigears said:

They have just turned up at the BBC

Watching Attenborough Climate Change the facts.

It grim stuff, we are destroying the world.

Except we’re not really destroying the world
It’s just we are speeding up our own extinction which is probably long overdue tbh unless w9e have a major population cull of billions.
but that’s not really a popular option so mass extinction is our destiny regardless of any clever thinking, the world was here long before humans and it will be here a very long time after we have long gone

It wasn't that long ago these climate experts were telling us rivers would running dry in Southern England by 2030.

Still no sign of that happening in the next ten years.

[garagewidow]

dandarez said:

Well, if you don't know Budgie, you are as about enlightened as the dim fkers in London creating havoc at this point in time now.

You could, if you're a famous Dame (personally, I think she's more Dumb than Dame), fly from the other side of the world (hang on, isn't that what these dicks are telling us not to do?) and go straight to the protests and help the other dim fkers out?
Dumb Emma Thompson is actively encouraging the demo at Heathrow I heard this morning. Thick as mince.
Me? I'm off out with the family to enjoy the sun, and steering well and truly many miles clear of Londonstan.

Is that emma Thompson now?,....she looks ill,or at least needs a burger or two.