Climate protesters block roads

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Digga

40,391 posts

284 months

Thursday 23rd January 2020
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Starfighter said:
Greta told to get some lessons in economics.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jan/23/g...
The woke climate movement is having their Ricky Gervais moment, care of the likes of Ferguson and Mnuchin now. All it takes is a few reasoned voices to pop the balloon and it will all calm the fk down.

Sophisticated Sarah

15,077 posts

170 months

Thursday 23rd January 2020
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Digga said:
Starfighter said:
Greta told to get some lessons in economics.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jan/23/g...
The woke climate movement is having their Ricky Gervais moment, care of the likes of Ferguson and Mnuchin now. All it takes is a few reasoned voices to pop the balloon and it will all calm the fk down.
yes

Although some good has come of the extremism. More people are environmentally aware and concerned about waste/recycling which is a positive.

otolith

56,341 posts

205 months

Thursday 23rd January 2020
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Digga said:
Starfighter said:
Greta told to get some lessons in economics.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jan/23/g...
The woke climate movement is having their Ricky Gervais moment, care of the likes of Ferguson and Mnuchin now. All it takes is a few reasoned voices to pop the balloon and it will all calm the fk down.
I think the point they are missing is that the campaigners don't have their view because they are ignorant of economics - though they may well be - but because they think their cause is more important than economics.

This is how they would see the likes of Mnuchin;

https://www.newyorker.com/cartoon/a16995

Digga

40,391 posts

284 months

Thursday 23rd January 2020
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otolith said:
Digga said:
Starfighter said:
Greta told to get some lessons in economics.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jan/23/g...
The woke climate movement is having their Ricky Gervais moment, care of the likes of Ferguson and Mnuchin now. All it takes is a few reasoned voices to pop the balloon and it will all calm the fk down.
I think the point they are missing is that the campaigners don't have their view because they are ignorant of economics - though they may well be - but because they think their cause is more important than economics.

This is how they would see the likes of Mnuchin;

https://www.newyorker.com/cartoon/a16995
They only have a platform of comfortable, Western civilisation to disseminate their climate panic, because they live in functioning, developed economies. Paradox.

Bullett

10,892 posts

185 months

Thursday 23rd January 2020
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Funny thing is if the climate protestors got thier way we would also be sat around like that but without the evil poluting open fire.

Oakey

27,595 posts

217 months

Thursday 23rd January 2020
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Mort7 said:
Hilariously hypocritical. The cover shows a couple looking like modern-day eco-puritans, yet it also advertises a holiday completion, a family holiday guide, an article about swapping a normal life for living in a trailer in California (presumably you travel by pedalo), and a guide to the 8 best cosy baby carriers to buy - all contained in a magazine which will have been printed and transported using fossil fuels.

The website is even better, with someone asking for advice on eco Astro Turf (I have that - it's called a lawn). rolleyes

There's a forum too.

Langweilig

4,330 posts

212 months

Thursday 23rd January 2020
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Bullett said:
Someone spotted this exciting tome in a newsagents.


The kid on the right looks thrilled.
If I were the artists who draw for Viz Comic, I'd sue them for breach of copyright. That just reminds me of the characters "The Modern Parents" - Malcolm and Cressida Wright-Pratt.

If I ever saw that magazine in a newsagents, I'd be tempted to replace it on the top shelf. Like I do with the Canon camera and cycling magazines.

Mort7

1,487 posts

109 months

Thursday 23rd January 2020
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Oakey said:
Mort7 said:
Hilariously hypocritical. The cover shows a couple looking like modern-day eco-puritans, yet it also advertises a holiday completion, a family holiday guide, an article about swapping a normal life for living in a trailer in California (presumably you travel by pedalo), and a guide to the 8 best cosy baby carriers to buy - all contained in a magazine which will have been printed and transported using fossil fuels.

The website is even better, with someone asking for advice on eco Astro Turf (I have that - it's called a lawn). rolleyes

There's a forum too.
Yes. The eco Astro Turf query is on the forum. You did well to avoid it. wobble

rjg48

2,671 posts

62 months

Thursday 23rd January 2020
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Oakey said:
There's a forum too.
Bums Net.

Smiler.

11,752 posts

231 months

Thursday 23rd January 2020
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rjg48 said:
Oakey said:
There's a forum too.
Bums Net.
PulseNet

Starfighter

4,937 posts

179 months

Thursday 23rd January 2020
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Langweilig said:
If I were the artists who draw for Viz Comic, I'd sue them for breach of copyright. That just reminds me of the characters "The Modern Parents" - Malcolm and Cressida Wright-Pratt.

If I ever saw that magazine in a newsagents, I'd be tempted to replace it on the top shelf. Like I do with the Canon camera and cycling magazines.
Just Canon or do you do the same for Nikon users?

Europa1

10,923 posts

189 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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They're at it again here in Cambridge: https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-ne...

turbobloke

104,120 posts

261 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Europa1 said:
They're at it again here in Cambridge: https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-ne...
Word salad in action.


Europa1

10,923 posts

189 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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turbobloke said:
Europa1 said:
They're at it again here in Cambridge: https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-ne...
Word salad in action.

I struggled to understand the significance of the bathtub.

Digga

40,391 posts

284 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Europa1 said:
turbobloke said:
Europa1 said:
They're at it again here in Cambridge: https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-ne...
Word salad in action.

I struggled to understand the significance of the bathtub.
Most of those crusty soapdodgers do too.

Biker 1

7,758 posts

120 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Leave them there for the weekend. They'll soon get cold/wet/hungry/busting for a #2......

Digga

40,391 posts

284 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Apropos of all this stupidity, I was just looking at Google satellite for the factory of a Chinese component supplier. I visited them only 3 years back, bu was just refreshing my memory as to where exactly, they were located and where I stayed.

The roads that have been built in the interim are staggering. All this hairshirt climate bullst and NIMBYISM will relegate the West to second tier status if we are not careful.

That is not to say i think nothing should be done, but we need to be extraordinarily careful that we do not piss comparative developmental advantage down the drain of sanctimony.

amusingduck

9,398 posts

137 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Digga said:
Apropos of all this stupidity, I was just looking at Google satellite for the factory of a Chinese component supplier. I visited them only 3 years back, bu was just refreshing my memory as to where exactly, they were located and where I stayed.

The roads that have been built in the interim are staggering. All this hairshirt climate bullst and NIMBYISM will relegate the West to second tier status if we are not careful.

That is not to say i think nothing should be done, but we need to be extraordinarily careful that we do not piss comparative developmental advantage down the drain of sanctimony.
If you're -easily- getting away with putting undesirables in concentration camps, how difficult can it be to ram through infrastructure?

What are they going to do about it, complain? Plenty more space in the camps. If they get full, you can always build more.

I'd rather stagnate forever than live in China.

Brave Fart

5,765 posts

112 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Digga said:
That is not to say i think nothing should be done, but we need to be extraordinarily careful that we do not piss comparative developmental advantage down the drain of sanctimony.
This, I think, is a very pertinent point. A recent dinner party conversation (amongst middle aged, middle class folk) favoured scrapping HS2, closing fossil fuelled power stations, building no new roads and making flying prohibitively expensive. All to save the planet, of course. And yet doing stuff like this would cripple our economy I'd have thought.

Greenish types that I know are very keen on slowing or halting development, but seem oblivious to the economic consequences.

Digga

40,391 posts

284 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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amusingduck said:
If you're -easily- getting away with putting undesirables in concentration camps, how difficult can it be to ram through infrastructure?

What are they going to do about it, complain? Plenty more space in the camps. If they get full, you can always build more.

I'd rather stagnate forever than live in China.
There is a middle ground, not encumbered by climate-NIMBY agenda, that the UK needs to step to PDQ.