Climate protesters block roads

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Psycho Warren

3,087 posts

114 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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I don't get why the soap dodgers can't just be arrested and dragged away? They are clearly blocking access to the public highway which is illegal.

CS gas the s, hand cuff them then bolt crop the chains and drag them away to a meat wagon and off to the nick they go.

I've no problem with peaceful protest, however this st these morons do is often illegal, usually disruptive, aimed to provoke and upset so hardly peaceful.

IMO you have a right to peacefully protest on the side of the pavement outside of everyones way. Otherwise you are just an asshole trying to force your views on others.

amusingduck

9,398 posts

137 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Brave Fart said:
This, I think, is a very pertinent point. A recent dinner party conversation (amongst middle aged, middle class folk) favoured scrapping HS2, closing fossil fuelled power stations, building no new roads and making flying prohibitively expensive. All to save the planet, of course. And yet doing stuff like this would cripple our economy I'd have thought.

Greenish types that I know are very keen on slowing or halting development, but seem oblivious to the economic consequences.
Why don't you just point out that if the UK stopped all emissions, down to absolute zero, it would have removed one percent of the total?

amusingduck

9,398 posts

137 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Digga said:
amusingduck said:
If you're -easily- getting away with putting undesirables in concentration camps, how difficult can it be to ram through infrastructure?

What are they going to do about it, complain? Plenty more space in the camps. If they get full, you can always build more.

I'd rather stagnate forever than live in China.
There is a middle ground, not encumbered by climate-NIMBY agenda, that the UK needs to step to PDQ.
For sure, but surely they'll overtake us sooner or later. How can we compete when they can ride roughshod over their people?

Graveworm

8,505 posts

72 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Digga said:
amusingduck said:
If you're -easily- getting away with putting undesirables in concentration camps, how difficult can it be to ram through infrastructure?

What are they going to do about it, complain? Plenty more space in the camps. If they get full, you can always build more.

I'd rather stagnate forever than live in China.
There is a middle ground, not encumbered by climate-NIMBY agenda, that the UK needs to step to PDQ.
Probably, China broke ground on a new 1000 bed hospital in Wuan for the virus outbreak. It will be fully open and operational by Feb 3rd. Ability to get things done quickly in extremis, is something we need in our Toolbox. Civil Contingencies Act has fallen over every single time it's been table topped.

Edited by Graveworm on Friday 24th January 14:29

Brave Fart

5,763 posts

112 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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amusingduck said:
Brave Fart said:
This, I think, is a very pertinent point. A recent dinner party conversation (amongst middle aged, middle class folk) favoured scrapping HS2, closing fossil fuelled power stations, building no new roads and making flying prohibitively expensive. All to save the planet, of course. And yet doing stuff like this would cripple our economy I'd have thought.

Greenish types that I know are very keen on slowing or halting development, but seem oblivious to the economic consequences.
Why don't you just point out that if the UK stopped all emissions, down to absolute zero, it would have removed one percent of the total?
Ah, well I have tried that in the past. The response is always the same "if the UK leads, and sets the standard, all the other countries will follow." Really? What, we think people in India will not fly to see relatives, or Chinese folk won't buy an air conditioning unit, and The Donald will be guided by what we're doing? Doubt it.

Digga

40,391 posts

284 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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amusingduck said:
Digga said:
amusingduck said:
If you're -easily- getting away with putting undesirables in concentration camps, how difficult can it be to ram through infrastructure?

What are they going to do about it, complain? Plenty more space in the camps. If they get full, you can always build more.

I'd rather stagnate forever than live in China.
There is a middle ground, not encumbered by climate-NIMBY agenda, that the UK needs to step to PDQ.
For sure, but surely they'll overtake us sooner or later. How can we compete when they can ride roughshod over their people?
China has already, but not in terms of GDP per capita, let alone more qualitative measures of success. However, if we starve the country of infrastructure, there will be increasing disparity between the haves and have nots within the UK.

Smiler.

11,752 posts

231 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Schlumberger said:
We are currently investigating how it was possible for the gates to be subjected to 400 volts.

kev1974

4,029 posts

130 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Europa1 said:
turbobloke said:
Europa1 said:
They're at it again here in Cambridge: https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-ne...
Word salad in action.

I struggled to understand the significance of the bathtub.
I think it is a poundland pink yacht

dandarez

13,299 posts

284 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Europa1 said:
turbobloke said:
Europa1 said:
They're at it again here in Cambridge: https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-ne...
Word salad in action.

I struggled to understand the significance of the bathtub.
There isn't one. A shower (of ste wasters) would be more significant and appropriate. It's what they are.

They've trapped people in the building and blocked fire escapes. Stopped main road traffic flow, except one XR fruitloop wasn't happy with it as it might stop his pals travelling along the road.
These people are simply anarchists and, well, let's be frank. They are F. nuts! (what do they do for a living, do they actually have proper jobs or employment?

And this will get worse. Get a problem, fix it. Oh no, not in good 'ol modun Britain.
The police do sweet fanny adams. If I held up traffic on a main road, what do you think would happen to me? Yeah, exactly.
These activists (anarchists) are a pain in the ****. They disrupt 'normal' people's lives. They don't give a f. toss.

I just read what one posted on twitter. Note the bold!!
'Schlumberger stopped for six and a half hours today by XR Cambridge and Cambridge XR Youth.
Action now over.
No arrests.rolleyes
Looks like it is possible to challenge the fossil fuel industry if we try.'


turbobloke

104,114 posts

261 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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dandarez said:
Europa1 said:
turbobloke said:
Europa1 said:
They're at it again here in Cambridge: https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-ne...
Word salad in action.

I struggled to understand the significance of the bathtub.
There isn't one. A shower (of ste wasters) would be more significant and appropriate. It's what they are.

They've trapped people in the building and blocked fire escapes. Stopped main road traffic flow, except one XR fruitloop wasn't happy with it as it might stop his pals travelling along the road.
These people are simply anarchists and, well, let's be frank. They are F. nuts! (what do they do for a living, do they actually have proper jobs or employment?

And this will get worse. Get a problem, fix it. Oh no, not in good 'ol modun Britain.
The police do sweet fanny adams. If I held up traffic on a main road, what do you think would happen to me? Yeah, exactly.
These activists (anarchists) are a pain in the ****. They disrupt 'normal' people's lives. They don't give a f. toss.

I just read what one posted on twitter. Note the bold!!
'Schlumberger stopped for six and a half hours today by XR Cambridge and Cambridge XR Youth.
Action now over.
No arrests.rolleyes
Looks like it is possible to challenge the fossil fuel industry if we try.'
Evolution does sometimes take a hike down a blind alley.


NapierDeltic

304 posts

53 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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That chap in the bathtub has definitely been knocking back the lentils.

motco

15,980 posts

247 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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The overuse of antibiotics and the consequent growth of mutations in the bacteria population is far more frightening than some painfully slow slight increase in temperature that might happen at some time in the distant future. I realise, of course, that this coronavirus is not directly affected by any antibiotics, but it might sneak in to a pre-weakened immune system and it is nevertheless symptomatic of the laissez faire (sp) attitude of the general population. This Telegraph article sums it up well. The potential for a worldwide epidemic has never been greater than it is now because not only of antibiotic resistance, but mainly due to the teeming mass of travellers in and out of airports around the world. That is an emergency if anything is, not bloody climate change!

otolith

56,339 posts

205 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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motco said:
The overuse of antibiotics and the consequent growth of mutations in the bacteria population is far more frightening than some painfully slow slight increase in temperature that might happen at some time in the distant future. I realise, of course, that this coronavirus is not directly affected by any antibiotics, but it might sneak in to a pre-weakened immune system and it is nevertheless symptomatic of the laissez faire (sp) attitude of the general population. This Telegraph article sums it up well. The potential for a worldwide epidemic has never been greater than it is now because not only of antibiotic resistance, but mainly due to the teeming mass of travellers in and out of airports around the world. That is an emergency if anything is, not bloody climate change!
Oh, I don't know. A good pandemic might cut emissions a bit.

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

225 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Bullett said:
Someone spotted this exciting tome in a newsagents.


The kid on the right looks thrilled.
He'll be wearing denim made in the Far East then? Highly damaging to the environment and the workers. Google China jeans, 300 million pairs a year. Unbelievable.

The Don of Croy

6,004 posts

160 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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My son attended a seminar in Kentucky dedicated to coal production (he’s an analyst type) a while back, and much of the talk there was about ‘the west’ getting hamstrung over climate issues, while the rest continue to exploit the earth’s abundant resources. And we (the people) are actually demanding that we get left behind...

Sophisticated Sarah

15,077 posts

170 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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The Don of Croy said:
My son attended a seminar in Kentucky dedicated to coal production (he’s an analyst type) a while back, and much of the talk there was about ‘the west’ getting hamstrung over climate issues, while the rest continue to exploit the earth’s abundant resources. And we (the people) are actually demanding that we get left behind...
Makes you wonder who is funding the movement. With all the fears of Russia rigging elections, I’d say this extreme climate propaganda (that benefits the likes of China and Russia) is far more damaging to the West.

turbobloke

104,114 posts

261 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Sophisticated Sarah said:
The Don of Croy said:
My son attended a seminar in Kentucky dedicated to coal production (he’s an analyst type) a while back, and much of the talk there was about ‘the west’ getting hamstrung over climate issues, while the rest continue to exploit the earth’s abundant resources. And we (the people) are actually demanding that we get left behind...
Makes you wonder who is funding the movement. With all the fears of Russia rigging elections, I’d say this extreme climate propaganda (that benefits the likes of China and Russia) is far more damaging to the West.
Definitely, it's costly, self-inflicted and won't improve any time soon. Meanwhile the likes of China, Russia and India make the right noises occasionally while carrying on with cheap energy for domestic and business consumers. There are actually people with the vote who think carrying a bag for life makes a difference, what hope is there of explaining to them that the entire UK "guilt trip" behind the extreme propaganda represents just 1% of the global situation. That's everything, homes, businesses, transport, energy, public sector, the lot. Stop the lot and economic growth in China, Russia and India would replace our tiny emissions in a figurative heartbeat. Bag for life, ffs.

Stussy

1,870 posts

65 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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Paul Dishman

4,722 posts

238 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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dandarez said:
There isn't one. A shower (of ste wasters) would be more significant and appropriate. It's what they are.

These people are simply anarchists and, well, let's be frank. They are F. nuts! (what do they do for a living, do they actually have proper jobs or employment?
This bloke gave his job up to campaign full time for Extinction Rebellion. Full time cyclist campaigner and car hater

https://twitter.com/countcaspargh

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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markcoznottz said:
Bullett said:
Someone spotted this exciting tome in a newsagents.


The kid on the right looks thrilled.
He'll be wearing denim made in the Far East then? Highly damaging to the environment and the workers. Google China jeans, 300 million pairs a year. Unbelievable.
'rewild your child'

Oh do fk right off.