Climate protesters block roads

[jshell]

Just been browsing XR's Twitter feed. Lots and lots of negative comments. They'll marginalise themselves soon and become targets for more and more hatred. Spotty, rich oiks and reject Greenham Common protestors.

[Greendubber]

Agammemnon said:

Greendubber said:

Happens all the time, roads get closed for all sorts of events and protests. Just because its XR and they're not very popular doesn't mean it cant and wont happen.

Conditions should be put on them, time, duration etc.. as long as those are adhered to then it's fine but still a massive pain in the hole.

Know you of any such conditions? Know you of any good reason why XR should have the city closed for them? Why does their right to be a pain trump others' right to go about their business?

Why have they been afforded privileges denied to many others, ie blocking of roads & interference with business?

As I'm nowhere near there or involved in anyway I have no idea.

[spikyone]

Greendubber said:

Agammemnon said:

And the blocking of roads for their protest?

Happens all the time, roads get closed for all sorts of events and protests. Just because its XR and they're not very popular doesn't mean it cant and wont happen.

Conditions should be put on them, time, duration etc.. as long as those are adhered to then it's fine but still a massive pain in the hole.

I have no issue with the police or council taking the decision to close a road, for a few hours, because someone wants to use that road for a protest (or sporting event, street party, whatever). This is very different though, surely you can see that? This is a small number of people, with no authority, deciding that they're going to block the street for a week. ETA: and giving the police enough warning that they're going to do it, that the police ought to be able to prevent it.

[Greendubber]

spikyone said:

Greendubber said:

Agammemnon said:

And the blocking of roads for their protest?

Happens all the time, roads get closed for all sorts of events and protests. Just because its XR and they're not very popular doesn't mean it cant and wont happen.

Conditions should be put on them, time, duration etc.. as long as those are adhered to then it's fine but still a massive pain in the hole.

I have no issue with the police or council taking the decision to close a road, for a few hours, because someone wants to use that road for a protest (or sporting event, street party, whatever). This is very different though, surely you can see that? This is a small number of people, with no authority, deciding that they're going to block the street for a week.

Of course I can see it, it's a nightmare. The police have used emergency powers to close the road, probably under some concern for public safety but I have no idea of any agreed conditions outside of that.

I dont know why it's being allowed for a week, probably held to ransom by XR who will just bus in loads of swampies of the dont get their way. I'd imagine Cambridge police could be very easily out numbered by XR so they clearly dont want the fight, maybe.

[Agammemnon]

Greendubber said:

Of course I can see it, it's a nightmare. The police have used emergency powers to close the road, probably under some concern for public safety but I have no idea of any agreed conditions outside of that.

I dont know why it's being allowed for a week, probably held to ransom by XR who will just bus in loads of swampies of the dont get their way. I'd imagine Cambridge police could be very easily out numbered by XR so they clearly dont want the fight, maybe.

I'd underestimated the extent to which they're running scared of what hasn't actually happened. The possibility is that they won't stop a few student hippy types in case more turn up? Words fail.

[A Winner Is You]

Agammemnon said:

Greendubber said:

Of course I can see it, it's a nightmare. The police have used emergency powers to close the road, probably under some concern for public safety but I have no idea of any agreed conditions outside of that.

I dont know why it's being allowed for a week, probably held to ransom by XR who will just bus in loads of swampies of the dont get their way. I'd imagine Cambridge police could be very easily out numbered by XR so they clearly dont want the fight, maybe.

I'd underestimated the extent to which they're running scared of what hasn't actually happened. The possibility is that they won't stop a few student hippy types in case more turn up? Words fail.

It's hardly like they are dealing with a bunch of EDL thugs spoiling for a fight either. The most dangerous thing most XR members could do is launch into an interpretive dance routine.

[turbobloke]

A Winner Is You said:

Agammemnon said:

Greendubber said:

Of course I can see it, it's a nightmare. The police have used emergency powers to close the road, probably under some concern for public safety but I have no idea of any agreed conditions outside of that.

I dont know why it's being allowed for a week, probably held to ransom by XR who will just bus in loads of swampies of the dont get their way. I'd imagine Cambridge police could be very easily out numbered by XR so they clearly dont want the fight, maybe.

I'd underestimated the extent to which they're running scared of what hasn't actually happened. The possibility is that they won't stop a few student hippy types in case more turn up? Words fail.

It's hardly like they are dealing with a bunch of EDL thugs spoiling for a fight either. The most dangerous thing most XR members could do is launch into an interpretive dance routine.

Harsh but fair.

[Mort7]

A Winner Is You said:

It's hardly like they are dealing with a bunch of EDL thugs spoiling for a fight either. The most dangerous thing most XR members could do is launch into an interpretive dance routine.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l2v7FQ87SBI

Edited by Mort7 on Wednesday 19th February 13:57

[WinstonWolf]

jshell said:

Police are 'in thrall' to XR: https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2020/02/the-police-a...

Interesting comment on there, would the police have been so supportive if it was Tommy Robinson.

[turbobloke]

WinstonWolf said:

jshell said:

Police are 'in thrall' to XR: https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2020/02/the-police-a...

Interesting comment on there, would the police have been so supportive if it was Tommy Robinson.

Cambridge plod has gone native with XR? That explains a lot.

The linked article is excellent. The intro sums things up nicely but the rest is worth a read.

Link said:

When I read that police were invoking emergency powers at an Extinction Rebellion protest in Cambridge I thought: about time, too. It meant, I presumed, that they were not going to make the same mistake as the Met Police last April, when they were too slow to stop this bunch of anarchists closing down public thoroughfares. But one should underestimate the plods at one’s peril. The ‘emergency powers’ being used by Cambridgeshire Police instead allow them to close the roads without giving any notice. Yes, they are actively facilitating the protest.

[jshell]

turbobloke said:

WinstonWolf said:

jshell said:

Police are 'in thrall' to XR: https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2020/02/the-police-a...

Interesting comment on there, would the police have been so supportive if it was Tommy Robinson.

Cambridge plod has gone native with XR? That explains a lot.

The linked article is excellent. The intro sums things up nicely but the rest is worth a read.

Link said:

When I read that police were invoking emergency powers at an Extinction Rebellion protest in Cambridge I thought: about time, too. It meant, I presumed, that they were not going to make the same mistake as the Met Police last April, when they were too slow to stop this bunch of anarchists closing down public thoroughfares. But one should underestimate the plods at one’s peril. The ‘emergency powers’ being used by Cambridgeshire Police instead allow them to close the roads without giving any notice. Yes, they are actively facilitating the protest.

Yup, normal 'antiCaps' would have received a 'kettling' and hopefully a good old 'truncheoning'! XR are media savvy, Cambridge plod are gutless.

[Greendubber]

turbobloke said:

WinstonWolf said:

jshell said:

Police are 'in thrall' to XR: https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2020/02/the-police-a...

Interesting comment on there, would the police have been so supportive if it was Tommy Robinson.

Cambridge plod has gone native with XR? That explains a lot.

The linked article is excellent. The intro sums things up nicely but the rest is worth a read.

Link said:

When I read that police were invoking emergency powers at an Extinction Rebellion protest in Cambridge I thought: about time, too. It meant, I presumed, that they were not going to make the same mistake as the Met Police last April, when they were too slow to stop this bunch of anarchists closing down public thoroughfares. But one should underestimate the plods at one’s peril. The ‘emergency powers’ being used by Cambridgeshire Police instead allow them to close the roads without giving any notice. Yes, they are actively facilitating the protest.

The police HAVE to facilitate protest, the law says so. Unless there is risk of serious disorder, serious damage or serious disruption the they have to do it. The police also have to expect and tolerate a level of public disruption.

So yes shutting down roads is an absolute ball ache but hate the game, not the players.

[jshell]

Greendubber said:

hate the game, not the players.

I actually think the vast majority of PH is supportive of the police. I certainly am, but in my case see the whole amalgamation of the Scottish forces in to one as an utter disaster. Politics which will bring horrible consequences.

I had an interesting discussion with an ex-Supt firiend of mine who remaked that he was surprised that there wasn't more vigilantism, given how stretched and tied-up with paperwork that the force was.

[Greendubber]

jshell said:

Greendubber said:

hate the game, not the players.

I actually think the vast majority of PH is supportive of the police. I certainly am, but in my case see the whole amalgamation of the Scottish forces in to one as an utter disaster. Politics which will bring horrible consequences.

I had an interesting discussion with an ex-Supt firiend of mine who remaked that he was surprised that there wasn't more vigilantism, given how stretched and tied-up with paperwork that the force was.

I'm not too clued up with Police Scotland but as a whole, its on its arse along with everywhere else I'd imagine.

[jshell]

Greendubber said:

jshell said:

Greendubber said:

hate the game, not the players.

I actually think the vast majority of PH is supportive of the police. I certainly am, but in my case see the whole amalgamation of the Scottish forces in to one as an utter disaster. Politics which will bring horrible consequences.

I had an interesting discussion with an ex-Supt firiend of mine who remaked that he was surprised that there wasn't more vigilantism, given how stretched and tied-up with paperwork that the force was.

I'm not too clued up with Police Scotland but as a whole, its on its arse along with everywhere else I'd imagine.

Moreso, given that all of the regional HQ's have been centralised to Glasgow by our nutty Nationilist government! Scotland is a large land-mass...

[Greendubber]

jshell said:

Greendubber said:

jshell said:

Greendubber said:

hate the game, not the players.

I actually think the vast majority of PH is supportive of the police. I certainly am, but in my case see the whole amalgamation of the Scottish forces in to one as an utter disaster. Politics which will bring horrible consequences.

I had an interesting discussion with an ex-Supt firiend of mine who remaked that he was surprised that there wasn't more vigilantism, given how stretched and tied-up with paperwork that the force was.

I'm not too clued up with Police Scotland but as a whole, its on its arse along with everywhere else I'd imagine.

Moreso, given that all of the regional HQ's have been centralised to Glasgow by our nutty Nationilist government! Scotland is a large land-mass...

Let's see how they get on with the Climate Summit in Glasgow in November..... you can bet XR will be all over that. We've already had mutual aid requests to go up and rest days cancelled for all of November.

[jshell]

Greendubber said:

jshell said:

Greendubber said:

jshell said:

Greendubber said:

hate the game, not the players.

I actually think the vast majority of PH is supportive of the police. I certainly am, but in my case see the whole amalgamation of the Scottish forces in to one as an utter disaster. Politics which will bring horrible consequences.

I had an interesting discussion with an ex-Supt firiend of mine who remaked that he was surprised that there wasn't more vigilantism, given how stretched and tied-up with paperwork that the force was.

I'm not too clued up with Police Scotland but as a whole, its on its arse along with everywhere else I'd imagine.

Moreso, given that all of the regional HQ's have been centralised to Glasgow by our nutty Nationilist government! Scotland is a large land-mass...

Let's see how they get on with the Climate Summit in Glasgow in November..... you can bet XR will be all over that. We've already had mutual aid requests to go up and rest days cancelled for all of November.

90,000 attendees, apparently. I'm happy to reside 40 miles away from what is likely to be an utter trough-swilling, nightmare. You have my sympathy!

[Lazermilk]

Greendubber said:

jshell said:

Greendubber said:

jshell said:

Greendubber said:

hate the game, not the players.

I actually think the vast majority of PH is supportive of the police. I certainly am, but in my case see the whole amalgamation of the Scottish forces in to one as an utter disaster. Politics which will bring horrible consequences.

I had an interesting discussion with an ex-Supt firiend of mine who remaked that he was surprised that there wasn't more vigilantism, given how stretched and tied-up with paperwork that the force was.

I'm not too clued up with Police Scotland but as a whole, its on its arse along with everywhere else I'd imagine.

Moreso, given that all of the regional HQ's have been centralised to Glasgow by our nutty Nationilist government! Scotland is a large land-mass...

Let's see how they get on with the Climate Summit in Glasgow in November..... you can bet XR will be all over that. We've already had mutual aid requests to go up and rest days cancelled for all of November.

Fingers crossed they will all be met with a 'Glasgow kiss' when/if they do show up!

[Dont like rolls]

Lazermilk said:

Fingers crossed they will all be met with a 'Glasgow kiss' when/if they do show up!

Nope. little Mr/Ms/Mrs Krankie will try to use it to bash WestMonster (don't mention the oil)

[kev1974]

Sounds like the public (or some of them anyway) in Cambridge starting to get fed up

https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-ne...

article said:

Protesters claim they were threatened with an acid attack and on another occasion they said a man was "verbally abusive" to them at the blockade.

“It was one person, he was masked up,” Miriam said. “He was quite unhappy – he was angry and threatening and seemed like he might be ready to be in a physical fight with someone if they were to say the wrong thing.

“It was scary, it was frightening, it was traumatising. There is a very young baby on site so that can cause quite a lot of unrest very, very quickly when we know there are young kids around.