Climate protesters block roads

[Nickgnome]

FiF said:

Nickgnome said:

There would need to be good scientific research to evidence any impact of our interventions.

Irony alert, considering it's a statement on a tangential off shoot of a thread where people who are recognising that climate change is happening, as it has since the dawn of time quite naturally, but when questioning where is the good scientific proof to show the human fingerprint as a significant causal factor in that change, are immediately labelled as deniers, or as one person put it diniers (sic) and know nothings simply as this was originally a car forum.

We were discussing the specific point of the potential impact on the rotational speed of the earth by wind turbines.

What point are you making?

[Nickgnome]

dandarez said:

I knew it, I knew it! If I popped in on this sunny morn, the laughing Gnome would be here!

I see what you did at the top irocfan, and Nick hasn't even noticed.
Nickgnome!


Still, Nick wants to euthanize 65s and over.
Prat!
Get the grandchildren to happily celebrate Nanny's birthday - she's reached 65 - the magic age where she can no longer blow the candles out, we are going to blow her out instead!

Fortunately I did notice but did not think you were worthy of a comment. I did an advisory to the mods instead.

Anyway can’t have too much excitement at my age so off to paddle board from the beach at the bottom of our garden.

Have fun.

Edited by Nickgnome on Monday 22 April 11:31

[dandarez]

Nickgnome said:

markcoznottz said:

Most people are too busy working or studying. It takes no passion or intellect to be an eco warrior, it's just a cop out for bored rich kids. Stand up and say 'we' should do something, not ever being specific about who the 'we' is. Same with the climate change act, baroness Worthington and grommit, bored thick child of aristocracy, and an unemployable non jobber who's family hates the uk. Cameron tagged onto this as he's the same, never had a real job, thickest of the two brothers. It requires no real intelligence to force 'other people'to cut back on energy.

That’s a bit of an angry rant.

How much of the actual science have you read? Can you discuss why you consider it flawed?

Are you really willing to take the risk with your children’s and grandchildren’s future?

The are protestors who have actually taken a weeks leave from their works, both blue and white collar to protest.

I spent most of my working life in the centre of London so quite used to disruption from various protests. Minor inconvenience at worst.

The vitriol here is unwarranted.

Even Khan has said it's gone to far with these idiots now. Minor inconvenience at worst? I think you should ask some of the people utterly inconvenienced by this brain dead rabble. They are basically anarchists. And a load of brain-washed kids. End of.

Here is one of the leaders of the brain dead Dr (not med, obviously!) Gail Bradbrook pictured a few years ago in Stroud, her home town. She has a couple brainwashed kids, no hubby although married twice. She likes to strip off too, anything for attention!

https://www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/news/153910...

She was part of a 'group' there that got £10k of Lottery funding about 6 yrs ago - wonder where that went?

https://www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/news/105061...

https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/glouces...

Some of these are recognisable in the London protests.

They simply are brain-dead jerks with nothing better to do while the rest of us live our lives.

Edit to add
The guy with the beard in the last link looks (could be wrong) like the guy who glued his hand to the London train?

Edited by dandarez on Monday 22 April 11:40

[Roofless Toothless]

Why is there an assumption that as soon as people become pensioners they stop being taxpayers and making a contribution to financing the society they live in?

I listened to Mrs Thatcher saying that I ought to be saving for my retirement. I saw a message in this, so I took out some private pensions, and both my wife and I have work pensions, too.

Of course, the result of this is that we now pay income tax annually, as well as the same amount of VAT, car/fuel related taxes, etc. as anybody else does.

Of course my profit/loss relationship with the NHS changed a bit when I was diagnosed with cancer and needed some expensive treatment, but I would have been tempted to swap with any youngster that volunteered.

[TeamD]

nickgnome said:

Fortunately I did notice but did not think you were worthy of a comment. I did an advisory to the mods instead.

Anyway can’t have too much excitement at my age so off to paddle board from the beach at the bottom of our garden.

Make the most of it before your house falls into the sea (with a bit of luck)

[dandarez]

TeamD said:

nickgnome said:

Fortunately I did notice but did not think you were worthy of a comment. I did an advisory to the mods instead.

Anyway can’t have too much excitement at my age so off to paddle board from the beach at the bottom of our garden.

Make the most of it before your house falls into the sea (with a bit of luck)

Don't be so cruel.

[TeamD]

dandarez said:

TeamD said:

nickgnome said:

Fortunately I did notice but did not think you were worthy of a comment. I did an advisory to the mods instead.

Anyway can’t have too much excitement at my age so off to paddle board from the beach at the bottom of our garden.

Make the most of it before your house falls into the sea (with a bit of luck)

Don't be so cruel.

He just gets my goat with his holier than thou attitude, he must be real fun down the pub.

[dandarez]

funkyrobot said:

Nickgnome said:

funkyrobot said:

Nickgnome said:

funkyrobot said:

Sky News now.

Brainwashing kids with songs.

Your kids must be incredibly naive if they get brainwashed by a few songs.

I think you have completely missed the point.

No surprise there though.

You have made no point whatsoever.

Did you see the interview on Sky News?

Some woman made a song about climate change and she's got kids singing it and believing her agenda. It's aimed at kids and they even had cartoony shirts on.

She is targeting kids. Kids are quite receptive.

It's more than just the song.

Maybe you understand more now?

Just to add, I watched part of it then realised, like the Beeb, Sky is part of the propaganda set now too.

The kid (little girl, what 8 or 9?) next to her was...

'HERS'.

Indoctrination - get 'em young!

The presenter said to her 'I hear you are a Vegetarian too?'
The little girl who had not stopped grinning nodded.

I switched off then. Literally.

[NDA]

dandarez said:

Indoctrination - get 'em young!

The presenter said to her 'I hear you are a Vegetarian too?'
The little girl who had not stopped grinning nodded.

I switched off then. Literally.

Yes quite.

Like the toddlers photographed protesting holding placards saying they 'dream' of being able to use gender neutral lavatories. Really?

[Dixy]

What I do not understand is what they expect, saying they want the guberment to do something is pointless, sorting Brexit is easy compared to climate change.
They need to start by identifying the key causes that can be addressed and then suggest solutions.
All they are doing is giving the chancellor free reign to increase fuel duty.

[garagewidow]

Even if we implement all that they are asking in respect of renewables,all we have to do is follow the power source and we will see that it still relies on the use of fossil fuel.

Unless someone has discovered the holy grail of perpetual motion.

[markcoznottz]

Nickgnome said:

Mort7 said:

Errr..... I thought the alleged problem was that the older generation have too much disposable income. They therefore support the economy. When they get into their dotage they are forced to sell their houses, and spend all their savings to pay for their care - despite having paid taxes and NI all their lives.

Breeders, meanwhile, are given money to have more children, having themselves been supported by the taxes of those that you now wish to euthanase. Ungrateful, or what?

The real problem is a generation that claims to be environmentally-driven, but which still jets off on holiday, can't operate without clutching a single-use coffee cup or water bottle, breeds out of control - even when they can't actually afford to do that, and have an overwhelming sense of self-entitlement.

A relatively minor portion of the elderly are wealthy. If you look at pension portion of public spending it is a significant portion. When you add the health and social care costs it is thevsingle biggest spend.

Calling people breeders is uninformed and unnecessary. You could do some proper research which would evidence your error.

Not that you will ever come into contact with said breeders at your yachting club. Or live or work in close proximity to them. I imagine in your white middle class liberal cliche anyone who refers to the underclass in less than favourable terms is labelled a daily mail little englander etc. I take it you thought of your kids and grandkids health when you purchased a tvr cebera 4.2 and a lotus exige, two extremely polluting engines. Do as I say ..

[garagewidow]

dandarez said:

Just to add, I watched part of it then realised, like the Beeb, Sky is part of the propaganda set now too.

The kid (little girl, what 8 or 9?) next to her was...

'HERS'.

Indoctrination - get 'em young!

The presenter said to her 'I hear you are a Vegetarian too?'
The little girl who had not stopped grinning nodded.

I switched off then. Literally.

Well the Cold War is over,what can we scare the next generation with now?

[Randy Winkman]

REALIST123 said:

irocfan said:

I wonder if she walks from rally to rally? Maybe she does it all by video-link because to actually use non-renewable would make her another colossal fking hypocrite

I don’t think there’s much doubt that she’s a hypocrite. Being played like a fiddle by those with a much more sinister agenda and too naive to see it.

As has been said why not protest in China or India in stead of a country that’s done and is doing more than it’s fair share in reducing pollution?

Since there's "not much doubt" I'm sure you can tell us more about how she is being played?

[anonymous-user]

I don't think Emma flying is hypocritical really. She is campaigning for changes in the law. Individual decision is never going to matter. It's a government level issue.

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 22 April 13:14

[A500leroy]

Dixy said:

What I do not understand is what they expect, saying they want the guberment to do something is pointless, sorting Brexit is easy compared to climate change.
They need to start by identifying the key causes that can be addressed and then suggest solutions.
All they are doing is giving the chancellor free reign to increase fuel duty.

This ones easy to sort, referendum!

Do we want
A, to be co2 neutral by banning all travel, all manufacturing,all farming and turn off all our power stations so we have a limited supply of electricity and no heating/lighting in winter.
or B
Carry on as we are encouraging greener traver, investing in greener manufacturing options helping farmers put more land up for nature whilst still producing food for us and trying to find ways to make green electricity.

This ticks off all 3 of 'there demands', The government can put all current 'scientific' evidence online for us to check and make our minds up and the people would have had a say on what should happen. They may have 50k people signed up to them but what do the other 70mill in the country think?

[Randy Winkman]

irocfan said:

Cold said:

Make speech stating "Something must be done".
Doesn't suggest what.
Cries a little bit at the end to rapturous applause.
Exits stage.
Travels to next country to repeat process.

Marvellous.

I wonder if she walks from rally to rally? Maybe she does it all by video-link because to actually use non-renewable would make her another colossal fking hypocrite

You might not agree with what she is doing but isn't it that case that she does it better by actually being there on schedule so the "cost" is worthwhile?

[Randy Winkman]

zarjaz1991 said:

tangerine_sedge said:

I'm confused by this thread. Who am I supposed to hate? Is it the stupid youngsters, or the leaching oldsters? Climate campaigners or climate deniers?

I know that I'm supposed to hate someone (it's the PH way), but I'm getting mixed messages, can anyone help me?

These days it's all got very confusing, so do as I do and simply hate everybody and everything.

It also means you no longer need to worry about reading and digesting various opposing arguments. It has a lot of advantages as a strategy.

When you look up "Gammon" on Wiki it just has a link to PH NP&E.

[Nickgnome]

markcoznottz said:

Not that you will ever come into contact with said breeders at your yachting club. Or live or work in close proximity to them. I imagine in your white middle class liberal cliche anyone who refers to the underclass in less than favourable terms is labelled a daily mail little englander etc. I take it you thought of your kids and grandkids health when you purchased a tvr cebera 4.2 and a lotus exige, two extremely polluting engines. Do as I say ..

Another uniformed angry rant.

Exige had an Honda engine and only used on the track. Less than 1.5K per year. About 5k in total if I recall correctly.

We all live and learn so maybe that’s why I sold them.

Drive an hybrid now which would be electric if didn't need to tow.

How is your research going?

Ps it was a 4.5 cerbera. Worst car I ever bought.

Edited by Nickgnome on Monday 22 April 12:43

[Nickgnome]

TeamD said:

dandarez said:

TeamD said:

nickgnome said:

Fortunately I did notice but did not think you were worthy of a comment. I did an advisory to the mods instead.

Anyway can’t have too much excitement at my age so off to paddle board from the beach at the bottom of our garden.

Make the most of it before your house falls into the sea (with a bit of luck)

Don't be so cruel.

He just gets my goat with his holier than thou attitude, he must be real fun down the pub.

Your angst gives me much amusement. Especially as I can post without impinging on my fun.

Our house will never fall into the sea btw.

It’s a lovely sunny Easter Monday go enjoy.