Climate protesters block roads

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Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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B'stard Child said:
Helicopter123 said:
markcoznottz said:
You are easily impressed. Virtue signalling rocks. I notice you run (ran?) a cayenne and/or a 997? Not exactly energy efficient or low emission are they. Another say as I doer.
One of the great things about these protests is that they remind us all to re focus on reducing our carbon footprint. I will certainly be thinking about this when choosing the next car. How about you?
The carbon impact of manufacture is way more than that of fuel over the lifetime of a vehicle - which in the UK seems to be a lot shorter than other nations - a lot of the UK seems to regard cars as disposable white goods.
He has a cayenne and a 997 he doesn’t give a fk he’s just pretending for virtue signalling purposes. I’m sure he also has a tiny house using geo thermal and doesn’t fly anywhere either.

When I thing saving the planet I think fuel efficient cars like a cayenne

slartibartfast

4,014 posts

202 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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I asked a question 'How is this all supposed to happen?' to one of the protesters and got this reply

XR does not propose a specific plan - it proposes a citizens assembly (as used in NI recently) for a genuinely random/representative group of people to work out the policies, once they've had the problem explained.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

187 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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"Citizen's Assembly" has shades of the old "Worker's Soviets" immediately post-Russian Revolution.

Unless I'm wrong and they will be elected of course...



Biker 1

7,745 posts

120 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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How on earth can we become 'carbon neutral' without fking up other resources/poisoning the planet in consequence??
I would've thought that anybody living in a country that needs heating at some point of the year, has absolutely no chance.
Perhaps we should all go & live in mud huts close to the equator?

Roofless Toothless

5,680 posts

133 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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I don't know - most of the hot air seems to be emanating from higher latitudes.

Oakey

27,595 posts

217 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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Pesty said:
He has a cayenne and a 997 he doesn’t give a fk he’s just pretending for virtue signalling purposes. I’m sure he also has a tiny house using geo thermal and doesn’t fly anywhere either.

When I thing saving the planet I think fuel efficient cars like a cayenne
A mate came round last week, I knew he was a bit left leaning but didn't realise how much. He prattled on about the rich elite (apparently nobody needs more than a billion pounds), then started talking about that Greta girl and how she was his new hero and that we're all fked because of climate change and that we all needed to fundamentally change our ways in order to save the planet. Then he left... in his Range Rover Vogue.


Coolbanana

4,417 posts

201 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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All those struggling with how CC is affecting us and what the solutions are, don't worry, at this stage you aren't required to concern yourselves beyond behaving like sheep - feel free to whinge, unable to do much except bemoan the Change you do not want to accept. smile

Greater minds than yours will resolve all for you and groups like XR will pressure Governments to enact those solutions. Although, I feel XR isn't 100% necessary, I do believe the groundswell towards dealing with negative issues surrounding CC are being dealt with at the level they need to be, even China is doing a lot more than it did and is on the right path. https://unfccc.int/news/china-meets-2020-carbon-ta...

It doesn't take much to learn what can be done, realistically, to understand what needs to be done, what will cause the least disruption to our usual routines, patterns and Lifestyles. Clearly though, for some of you, it is still too difficult or just something you do not want to accept. But don't fret, you only need to comply with what comes next and legislation will ensure that you do. biggrin

Like Brexit, you will be managed. wink

motco

15,968 posts

247 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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Coolbanana said:
you aren't required to concern yourselves beyond behaving like sheep


Swallow the message hook, line, and sinker - the message from the glorious masters of the Left.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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Biker 1 said:
How on earth can we become 'carbon neutral' without fking up other resources/poisoning the planet in consequence??
I would've thought that anybody living in a country that needs heating at some point of the year, has absolutely no chance.
Perhaps we should all go & live in mud huts close to the equator?
Mud huts will be compulsory here mate don't worry about that because there will be no industry to make or deliver what we currently need to exist.
Life expectancy due to lack of medical care oh and starvation will really help to reduce the negative effect man has on this Planet..Within just a few generations we will have set the human race back a thousand years or more.

T-195

2,671 posts

62 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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Coolbanana said:
All those struggling with how CC is affecting us and what the solutions are, don't worry, at this stage you aren't required to concern yourselves beyond behaving like sheep - feel free to whinge, unable to do much except bemoan the Change you do not want to accept. smile

Greater minds than yours will resolve all for you and groups like XR will pressure Governments to enact those solutions. Although, I feel XR isn't 100% necessary, I do believe the groundswell towards dealing with negative issues surrounding CC are being dealt with at the level they need to be, even China is doing a lot more than it did and is on the right path. https://unfccc.int/news/china-meets-2020-carbon-ta...

It doesn't take much to learn what can be done, realistically, to understand what needs to be done, what will cause the least disruption to our usual routines, patterns and Lifestyles. Clearly though, for some of you, it is still too difficult or just something you do not want to accept. But don't fret, you only need to comply with what comes next and legislation will ensure that you do. biggrin

Like Brexit, you will be managed. wink
That would why the UK has just one Green MP out of 650. They make EVs look common, even.

Not-The-Messiah

3,620 posts

82 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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Coolbanana said:
All those struggling with how CC is affecting us and what the solutions are, don't worry, at this stage you aren't required to concern yourselves beyond behaving like sheep - feel free to whinge, unable to do much except bemoan the Change you do not want to accept. smile

Greater minds than yours will resolve all for you and groups like XR will pressure Governments to enact those solutions. Although, I feel XR isn't 100% necessary, I do believe the groundswell towards dealing with negative issues surrounding CC are being dealt with at the level they need to be, even China is doing a lot more than it did and is on the right path. https://unfccc.int/news/china-meets-2020-carbon-ta...

It doesn't take much to learn what can be done, realistically, to understand what needs to be done, what will cause the least disruption to our usual routines, patterns and Lifestyles. Clearly though, for some of you, it is still too difficult or just something you do not want to accept. But don't fret, you only need to comply with what comes next and legislation will ensure that you do. biggrin

Like Brexit, you will be managed. wink
No we won't are you not paying attention populism, Trump, brexit and all that.

If this so called legislation starts to hurt people they will just vote in someone that will get rid of it. It needs to be voluntary that's democracy for you.

There may be minor laws and legislation but no real ones that will make any difference.


kev1974

4,029 posts

130 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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We need to ban tea and coffee (and all drink beer instead), on account of the emissions that must be generated shipping that stuff across the planet just so people can have a tasty beverage, but which they don't actually NEED to LIVE.

Why must I look on at the planet being slowly killed by selfish people insisting these unnecessary luxuries be brought halfway round the world to them.

Or at least insist that it has to be moved around the planet in beautiful wind-powered clipper sailing ships again.

Also, banning tea and coffee would get rid of Starbucks and Costa from every second shop on the High Street, it's win win!

(and people that insist on eating avocados, bananas, pineapples, rice, coconuts, chocolate etc, which all require them to be shipped around the world on filthy ships and planes should also take a good long look at their actions and pleasures too!)

Biker 1

7,745 posts

120 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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I wonder what the carbon footprint of this lot ads up to: https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:...
Or perhaps this: https://www.flightradar24.com/56.05,14.3/3

I'm guessing that if ships & planes are banned, carbon will be drastically cut. What do the crusties suggest as an alternative?

jfire

5,893 posts

73 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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kev1974 said:
We need to ban tea and coffee (and all drink beer instead), on account of the emissions that must be generated shipping that stuff across the planet just so people can have a tasty beverage, but which they don't actually NEED to LIVE.

Why must I look on at the planet being slowly killed by selfish people insisting these unnecessary luxuries be brought halfway round the world to them.

Or at least insist that it has to be moved around the planet in beautiful wind-powered clipper sailing ships again.

Also, banning tea and coffee would get rid of Starbucks and Costa from every second shop on the High Street, it's win win!

(and people that insist on eating avocados, bananas, pineapples, rice, coconuts, chocolate etc, which all require them to be shipped around the world on filthy ships and planes should also take a good long look at their actions and pleasures too!)
Are you favouring consumption of low carbon footprint British produce? What are you some sort of Brexiteer racist?!

Nickgnome

8,277 posts

90 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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johnxjsc1985 said:
Mud huts will be compulsory here mate don't worry about that because there will be no industry to make or deliver what we currently need to exist.
Life expectancy due to lack of medical care oh and starvation will really help to reduce the negative effect man has on this Planet..Within just a few generations we will have set the human race back a thousand years or more.
On the plus side. Most of the angst ridden Ph posters will be dead and public opinion gradually swayed by the science.

A few years of crop failures and water shortages with consequent cost increase will turn the public firmly against the remaining few flat earth types.




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Nickgnome

8,277 posts

90 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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kev1974

4,029 posts

130 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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jfire said:
kev1974 said:
We need to ban tea and coffee (and all drink beer instead), on account of the emissions that must be generated shipping that stuff across the planet just so people can have a tasty beverage, but which they don't actually NEED to LIVE.

Why must I look on at the planet being slowly killed by selfish people insisting these unnecessary luxuries be brought halfway round the world to them.

Or at least insist that it has to be moved around the planet in beautiful wind-powered clipper sailing ships again.

Also, banning tea and coffee would get rid of Starbucks and Costa from every second shop on the High Street, it's win win!

(and people that insist on eating avocados, bananas, pineapples, rice, coconuts, chocolate etc, which all require them to be shipped around the world on filthy ships and planes should also take a good long look at their actions and pleasures too!)
Are you favouring consumption of low carbon footprint British produce? What are you some sort of Brexiteer racist?!
I'm not anti-europe, I'm happy for people to eat Spanish oranges, provided a nice clean solar powered electric train can deliver them

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

229 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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Nickgnome said:
On the plus side. Most of the ?? Ph posters will be dead and public opinion gradually swayed by the science.

A few years of crop failures and water shortages with consequent cost increase will turn the public firmly against the remaining few flat earth types.
Why do you keep calling people who don't agree with you 'flat earth types'?

Again, like banana, it's some sort of holier than you attitude.

Nickgnome

8,277 posts

90 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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funkyrobot said:
Nickgnome said:
On the plus side. Most of the ?? Ph posters will be dead and public opinion gradually swayed by the science.

A few years of crop failures and water shortages with consequent cost increase will turn the public firmly against the remaining few flat earth types.
Why do you keep calling people who don't agree with you 'flat earth types'?

Again, like banana, it's some sort of holier than you attitude.
Because arguing against the science is just that.

That is not the same as challenging experts which should be undertaken thoroughly and vigorously.

It is the certainty of some poster that are on here that causes concern as they have they no factual or scientific basis for such certainty.

3.1416

453 posts

62 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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Best hope that nothing remotely similar to this takes place...

From History said:
Nationwide power cuts averaged 31 per cent yesterday, with 40 per cent in some areas, and hospitals faced their most critical 24 hours of the strike so far with staff struggling to keep going by candle and battery power.
Limited supplies from standby generators kept premature babies alive and stocks of blood usable, and allowed some essential operations to continue.
https://www.theguardian.com/century/1970-1979/Stor...