Notre Dame on fire - looks pretty serious

Notre Dame on fire - looks pretty serious

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p1stonhead

25,584 posts

168 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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ChemicalChaos said:
Pantechnicon said:
red_slr said:
Very odd colour smoke?
I would imagine there is a lot of lead on that roof would that cause it
This. Melted lead and associated fumes everywhere, I would not want to be in the vicinity of any of that smoke!

Given the amount of very well seasoned timber in thay structure, I suspect it'll be a total loss much like the famous bombed out church in Liverpool.
However, given the ESA and the Cutty Sark have both been successfully rebuilt after major fire I wonder if the same thing could be attempted on a much larger scale?
I’d imagine there is no value at which it would be considered a write off. If it can be rebuilt, I’m sure it will be.

lrdisco

1,452 posts

88 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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I do hope they have a French version of 4X4 response.
It’s their moment of glory after sleeping all night with one eye open.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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p1stonhead said:
I’d imagine there is no value at which it would be considered a write off. If it can be rebuilt, I’m sure it will be.
bit like the Mona Lisa if it gets destroyed you can just paint a new one

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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p1stonhead said:
ChemicalChaos said:
Pantechnicon said:
red_slr said:
Very odd colour smoke?
I would imagine there is a lot of lead on that roof would that cause it
This. Melted lead and associated fumes everywhere, I would not want to be in the vicinity of any of that smoke!

Given the amount of very well seasoned timber in thay structure, I suspect it'll be a total loss much like the famous bombed out church in Liverpool.
However, given the ESA and the Cutty Sark have both been successfully rebuilt after major fire I wonder if the same thing could be attempted on a much larger scale?
I’d imagine there is no value at which it would be considered a write off. If it can be rebuilt, I’m sure it will be.
Yes, I don't think they'll be some council official earmarking the ground for affordable housing..

p1stonhead

25,584 posts

168 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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johnxjsc1985 said:
p1stonhead said:
I’d imagine there is no value at which it would be considered a write off. If it can be rebuilt, I’m sure it will be.
bit like the Mona Lisa if it gets destroyed you can just paint a new one
Exactly hehe

You know what I meant!

0a

23,902 posts

195 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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kiethton said:
Hope the damage isn’t that bad but doesn’t look good!

Your battery!

troika

1,867 posts

152 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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Just awful to watch. Been a few times, never again by the looks of things sadly.

They could have done with Keith Lard as their fire officer...

Derek Smith

45,742 posts

249 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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ChemicalChaos said:
This. Melted lead and associated fumes everywhere, I would not want to be in the vicinity of any of that smoke!

Given the amount of very well seasoned timber in thay structure, I suspect it'll be a total loss much like the famous bombed out church in Liverpool.
However, given the ESA and the Cutty Sark have both been successfully rebuilt after major fire I wonder if the same thing could be attempted on a much larger scale?
Good point. Windsor as well.

I've recently revisited the Cutty Sark and it's still history. The main structure needs to remain intact. The fire seems less ferocious than at first.

Very sad but in years to come the fire will be history, very much like the Cutty Sark.

The fire crews look at risk.


motco

15,973 posts

247 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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cuprabob said:
Sacre Bleu!
Holy smoke!


Seriously, that is a tragedy. I hope the damage is not irreparable. frown

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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John Sopel on BBC wondering why the Fire Brigade haven’t had a plan for something of this scale, and can only see the one access platform with a hose an hour after it started.

FourWheelDrift

88,570 posts

285 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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Derek Smith said:
ChemicalChaos said:
This. Melted lead and associated fumes everywhere, I would not want to be in the vicinity of any of that smoke!

Given the amount of very well seasoned timber in thay structure, I suspect it'll be a total loss much like the famous bombed out church in Liverpool.
However, given the ESA and the Cutty Sark have both been successfully rebuilt after major fire I wonder if the same thing could be attempted on a much larger scale?
Good point. Windsor as well.

I've recently revisited the Cutty Sark and it's still history. The main structure needs to remain intact. The fire seems less ferocious than at first.

Very sad but in years to come the fire will be history, very much like the Cutty Sark.

The fire crews look at risk.
And York Minster in 1984.

motco

15,973 posts

247 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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FourWheelDrift said:
Derek Smith said:
ChemicalChaos said:
This. Melted lead and associated fumes everywhere, I would not want to be in the vicinity of any of that smoke!

Given the amount of very well seasoned timber in thay structure, I suspect it'll be a total loss much like the famous bombed out church in Liverpool.
However, given the ESA and the Cutty Sark have both been successfully rebuilt after major fire I wonder if the same thing could be attempted on a much larger scale?
Good point. Windsor as well.

I've recently revisited the Cutty Sark and it's still history. The main structure needs to remain intact. The fire seems less ferocious than at first.

Very sad but in years to come the fire will be history, very much like the Cutty Sark.

The fire crews look at risk.
And York Minster in 1984.
That was an act of God because the incumbent bishop, David Jenkins, had only a day or so earlier said he didn't believe the Bible. Did the CofE believe it? What can God do to make His presence felt if a bishop misses being fried by a few hours? rolleyes

juice

8,543 posts

283 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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The live video on FB is unreal.

Can't believe the spire is gone frown

Gameface

16,565 posts

78 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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Even once repairs are underway, it could be 10 - 20 years before it's completed and open to the public again. frown

Sheets Tabuer

18,992 posts

216 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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It was pretty much a ruin at the time of napoleon, I'm sure they'll rebuild it.

MGJ2

385 posts

139 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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anonymous said:
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I don't see many firefighters in this picture.

sunbeam alpine

6,948 posts

189 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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Gameface said:
Even once repairs are underway, it could be 10 - 20 years before it's completed and open to the public again. frown
It's gone for our lifetime... frown

Ikemi

8,447 posts

206 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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Incredibly sad; a fantastic building in a fantastic city. I’m not religious, but I’ve been inside to have a look round. I’d imagine some irreplaceable relics and artwork have been destroyed in the fire ...

crankedup

25,764 posts

244 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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Guess that three ‘D’ digital imagery is available for the restoration. Really very sad to see such a iconic historical building being destroyed

Athlon

5,021 posts

207 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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A water reservoir, covered with a lead roof, is located between the two towers, behind the colonnade and the gallery and in front of the nave and the pignon. It can be used to quickly extinguish a fire.

Sadly it appears to have been ineffective frown