Senior Politician caught drinking on train

Senior Politician caught drinking on train

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Fittster

20,120 posts

213 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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HTP99 said:
Johnnytheboy said:
The more I think about this the weirder it seems.

Setting aside moral or legal considerations, does she not have any idea that as a public figure, you do something like this, you're going to get your picture taken?

Her/Labour's "team" must have their heads in their hands.
That's the thing that gets me, leaving aside that it is technically illegal to be doing this, it looks terribly sad sitting there in the early afternoon by oneself on the train, taking a swig of an alcoholic drink and given her high profile, it looks even worse.
Have you ever been on a commuter train in your life?

Frank7

6,619 posts

87 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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Fittster said:
HTP99 said:
Johnnytheboy said:
The more I think about this the weirder it seems.

Setting aside moral or legal considerations, does she not have any idea that as a public figure, you do something like this, you're going to get your picture taken?

Her/Labour's "team" must have their heads in their hands.
That's the thing that gets me, leaving aside that it is technically illegal to be doing this, it looks terribly sad sitting there in the early afternoon by oneself on the train, taking a swig of an alcoholic drink and given her high profile, it looks even worse.
Have you ever been on a commuter train in your life?
Forgive me, but your reply to HTP99 seems slightly flippant, mildly insulting even.
Most of us, particularly in London, have been on commuter trains from time to time, and yes, you will occasionally see someone swigging from a can of lager.
No matter if they’re high flying executives, politicians, or scaffolders, it makes me feel vaguely uncomfortable if they’re near me, and I’m glad when they either get off, or I reach my stop.

Henners

12,230 posts

194 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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Fittster said:
Why can I legally buy and drink alcohol on the majority of the train network but I can't in London. Southern are a bunch of libtard, cucks (I'm getting the hang of this internet baiting) who can't handle their booze?
7/10

Forgot snowflake. wink

craigjm

17,956 posts

200 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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Frank7 said:
Bobajobbob said:
What is the penalty for sipping an m&s Mohito on a train? No one has mentioned it yet. Does anyone know?

Does it only apply if you drink on the train? If you get totally muntered in the pub and then catch the train and vomit everywhere is it ok? Can I sip red wine if the bottle is in a paper bag? Is drinking on the street ok as long as I finish before the bus arrives? Is it ok to carry alcohol on the train if I don’t open it?

It’s stupid unenforceable law because to do so would require a policeman on every tfl vehicle and because as outlined above it won’t make a difference to drunk behaviour on public transport because people who get drunk will be drunk anyway regardless of whether they were actually drinking on the bus.

I happen to think Diana Abbot is a bit of a muppet but in this instance I despise the press for making a deal out of it. A spiteful press is more dangerous than a simple politician sipping on a can of sugar on a train. No wonder all politicians are so stupid these days. No one in their right mind would aspire to be one.
The law is that you cannot have alcohol on a TFL tube, train, tram, or bus.
No it isn’t. The law is that you cannot take opened vessels containing alcohol onto those services. You can quite freely take home bottles of wine etc that are unopened

craigjm

17,956 posts

200 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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Fittster said:
Why can I legally buy and drink alcohol on the majority of the train network but I can't in London. Southern are a bunch of libtard, cucks (I'm getting the hang of this internet baiting) who can't handle their booze?
It’s nothing to do with Southern so your rant gets a 1/10

Frank7

6,619 posts

87 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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craigjm said:
Frank7 said:
Bobajobbob said:
What is the penalty for sipping an m&s Mohito on a train? No one has mentioned it yet. Does anyone know?

Does it only apply if you drink on the train? If you get totally muntered in the pub and then catch the train and vomit everywhere is it ok? Can I sip red wine if the bottle is in a paper bag? Is drinking on the street ok as long as I finish before the bus arrives? Is it ok to carry alcohol on the train if I don’t open it?

It’s stupid unenforceable law because to do so would require a policeman on every tfl vehicle and because as outlined above it won’t make a difference to drunk behaviour on public transport because people who get drunk will be drunk anyway regardless of whether they were actually drinking on the bus.

I happen to think Diana Abbot is a bit of a muppet but in this instance I despise the press for making a deal out of it. A spiteful press is more dangerous than a simple politician sipping on a can of sugar on a train. No wonder all politicians are so stupid these days. No one in their right mind would aspire to be one.
The law is that you cannot have alcohol on a TFL tube, train, tram, or bus.
No it isn’t. The law is that you cannot take opened vessels containing alcohol onto those services. You can quite freely take home bottles of wine etc that are unopened
Thank you craigjm, that makes sense, I’ll go along with that, unfortunately the chavs and skanks take on unopened cans of booze, then tshh! they pull the ringpull.

TeamD

4,913 posts

232 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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Frank7 said:
No matter if they’re high flying executives, politicians, or scaffolders, it makes me feel vaguely uncomfortable if they’re near me, and I’m glad when they either get off, or I reach my stop.
Are you for real? Are you scared to go to a pub?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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TeamD said:
Frank7 said:
No matter if they’re high flying executives, politicians, or scaffolders, it makes me feel vaguely uncomfortable if they’re near me, and I’m glad when they either get off, or I reach my stop.
Are you for real? Are you scared to go to a pub?
Frank is very real and also quite polite.
I get where he is coming from. I do go to pubs but it's a bit different being in a pub to being on a train with someone drinking. I've seen a lot of bad incidents on trains attributable to alchohol.
These have ranged from an older bloke actually putting his hand up a womans skirt (1980) to a full on scrap between some lads between Manchester and Bolton. That led to Police boarding the train and added an hour to my getting where I was going. Along the way I have seen girls screaming at each other after drinking too much. I have also seen a lot of good natured people enjoying a drink and whose behaviour has not affected anyone in any way.
It's perfectly reasonable for Frank to be guarded around people drinking on public transport

Slagathore

5,810 posts

192 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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amusingduck said:
Completely agree. Who gives a st?!

The extrapolation some are making about her being a raging alcoholic is mental IMO. Maybe she just wanted a mojito?! It's not like she was hammered on kestral super and pissing on the seats, is it?!
Maybe my way of thinking is off, but a 65 year old woman alone on a train drinking at 1pm in the afternoon is just plain odd. Infact, just drinking on a train or any form of public transport seems a bit odd. You'd it expect it from students, but not 65 year old politicians.

I have never ever had a craving for an alcoholic drink where I'd pop in to an off-license or supermarket just to buy 1 can, and who would just have 1 alcoholic drink to quench a thirst and then carry on their day? But then I don't get cravings for alcohol!

Maybe she was pre-drinking, before arriving at an event, but even then, why not do that at home before getting on the train.






limpsfield

5,886 posts

253 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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Whenever I have commuted back from London there have been plenty of people having a drink.

I think this “drinking on trains is weird” view is a little weird to me. Perfectly normal thing to do after a hard day at the coalface. It is of course legal on Commuter trains.

valiant

10,234 posts

160 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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Don’t want to frighten some people but on some trains you can actually buy alcoholic drinks on board!

Scary world out there people.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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valiant said:
Don’t want to frighten some people but on some trains you can actually buy alcoholic drinks on board!

Scary world out there people.
Absolutely and it's a good money earner

alfie2244

11,292 posts

188 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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techiedave said:
valiant said:
Don’t want to frighten some people but on some trains you can actually buy alcoholic drinks on board!

Scary world out there people.
Absolutely and it's a good money earner
Like most things that are banned.................it goes underground getmecoat

mouseymousey

2,641 posts

237 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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I regularly enjoy a can or 2 when travelling home from London meetings to the north west.

I'm always reminded of a Frank Skinner story that when he was still drinking he would always be guaranteed of lots of space around him on a train journey when he got out a bottle of Pernod and started drinking from it. Since hearing that I've always secretly hoped my cans of strongbow stop someone from sitting next to me! Perhaps she was using the same tactic?

limpsfield

5,886 posts

253 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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Frank7 said:
No matter if they’re high flying executives, politicians, or scaffolders, it makes me feel vaguely uncomfortable if they’re near me, and I’m glad when they either get off, or I reach my stop.
Perhaps that’s why Uber is doing so well? We now have an extra choice between the drunken Chav- ridden trains or the over priced surly black cab drivers.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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I think one of our posters may have been sodomised by a gorilla
He is starting behave as if he has a bit of ape inside him

Fittster

20,120 posts

213 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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Frank7 said:
Fittster said:
HTP99 said:
Johnnytheboy said:
The more I think about this the weirder it seems.

Setting aside moral or legal considerations, does she not have any idea that as a public figure, you do something like this, you're going to get your picture taken?

Her/Labour's "team" must have their heads in their hands.
That's the thing that gets me, leaving aside that it is technically illegal to be doing this, it looks terribly sad sitting there in the early afternoon by oneself on the train, taking a swig of an alcoholic drink and given her high profile, it looks even worse.
Have you ever been on a commuter train in your life?
Forgive me, but your reply to HTP99 seems slightly flippant, mildly insulting even.
Most of us, particularly in London, have been on commuter trains from time to time, and yes, you will occasionally see someone swigging from a can of lager.
No matter if they’re high flying executives, politicians, or scaffolders, it makes me feel vaguely uncomfortable if they’re near me, and I’m glad when they either get off, or I reach my stop.
So when the staff come round offering complimentary drinks you feel uncomfortable?

TeamD

4,913 posts

232 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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Fittster said:
So when the staff come round offering complimentary drinks you feel uncomfortable?
Remember that these are not proper trains, they are lucky if they have a toilet.

Fittster

20,120 posts

213 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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valiant said:
Don’t want to frighten some people but on some trains you can actually buy alcoholic drinks on board!

Scary world out there people.
Once you are a powerful built director you maybe offered a complimentary drink. I can only assume this would result in most posters on this thread pulling the emergency brake and fleeing the train.

Slagathore

5,810 posts

192 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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limpsfield said:
Whenever I have commuted back from London there have been plenty of people having a drink.

I think this “drinking on trains is weird” view is a little weird to me. Perfectly normal thing to do after a hard day at the coalface. It is of course legal on Commuter trains.
Well just to make it weirder, do you think that's a good relationship with alcohol to have? hard day at the office - better treat myself to a few cans?

I don't think it is, and it's not because I'm a killjoy, it's because if you try and find a way to justify drinking, you have a problem.

Lads on stag do on a train, yeah, fine, you'd expect it and they probably don't do it all the time, but doing it in your normal routine doesn't seem healthy or normal.