Senior Politician caught drinking on train
Discussion
Teddy Lop said:
its weird, far be it for me to criticise (taking a cheeky carry-on on the way to a gig has been de rigueur for 20 years for me) but it's peculiar behaviour from someone supposedly aspiring to be one of the most powerful people in the country. Is she really that thick, or what kind of motive is going on?
Phones and therefore cameras are everywhere now.Of course it's easy to say "Don't do a public role if you don't want to deal with it" but imagine having to live damned near every second of your life thinking "What if someone's taking a photo or video of this".
So we want perfect politicians but we also want ones that are more "human" like us.
How's that going to work?
She brings a lot of bad press upon herself but honestly this just feels like a bullst article on a slow news day.
bhstewie said:
Do we really want her or anyone prosecuted for this?
I really can't work it out.
Maybe I’m oversimplifying it, but from June 1st 2008, alcohol was banned from TFL Tube, trams and buses, including the DLR.I really can't work it out.
Diane Abbot MP, is Shadow Home Secretary, which means that should a disaster of great magnitude ever befall this country, and her Marxist-Leninist led Labour Party get into Government, she will be in charge of the department responsible for the country’s laws.
So it isn’t a case of wanting her prosecuted, it’s a case of why, after admitting to not only breaking the law by taking alcohol on to an Underground train, she was photographed drinking it, and still seems to have “got away” with it.
I am reminded of a time that I stopped my taxi on double yellow lines, intending to go buy a paper, I didn’t even get the chance to open the door, a copper leaned in my n/s front window, waving his finger from left to right, saying, “YOU, above all, as a London taxi driver should know that stopping on yellow lines is a NO-NO.”
Someone further up the thread, described the alcohol ban as ‘unenforceable.’
It isn’t unenforceable, like so many laws, it is not enforced by those charged with keeping the law.
Frank7 said:
Diane Abbot MP, is Shadow Home Secretary, which means that should a disaster of great magnitude ever befall this country, and her Marxist-Leninist led Labour Party get into Government, she will be in charge of the department responsible for the country’s laws.
And there are a great many things she's said and done that scare the st out of me should that ever become a reality.I'm not sure drinking an M&S Mojito is one of them.
I think a bit of perspective is called for.
Edited by bhstewie on Saturday 20th April 13:35
As others have pointed out drinking alcohol on public transport is a chavvy thing to do, but I was not aware there was a law against it. (A very sensible law, since getting drunk and diving for a bus, a tube or mainline train can lead to complications)
Recently I went on public transport on a Saturday night and thought I had taken a wrong turn into a winesRus or a beersRus back yard, with all the empty and half empty wine bottles, and beer cans rolling around on the floor. Seems as though some like me were not aware it was illegal, or they were, but just did not care, and knocked it back anyway.
Recently I went on public transport on a Saturday night and thought I had taken a wrong turn into a winesRus or a beersRus back yard, with all the empty and half empty wine bottles, and beer cans rolling around on the floor. Seems as though some like me were not aware it was illegal, or they were, but just did not care, and knocked it back anyway.
Pan Pan Pan said:
As others have pointed out drinking alcohol on public transport is a chavvy thing to do, but I was not aware there was a law against it. (A very sensible law, since getting drunk and diving for a bus, a tube or mainline train can lead to complications)
Recently I went on public transport on a Saturday night and thought I had taken a wrong turn into a winesRus or a beersRus back yard, with all the empty and half empty wine bottles, and beer cans rolling around on the floor. Seems as though some like me were not aware it was illegal, or they were, but just did not care, and knocked it back anyway.
You’ve never had a drink on a train journey ? Seriously?Recently I went on public transport on a Saturday night and thought I had taken a wrong turn into a winesRus or a beersRus back yard, with all the empty and half empty wine bottles, and beer cans rolling around on the floor. Seems as though some like me were not aware it was illegal, or they were, but just did not care, and knocked it back anyway.
bhstewie said:
Frank7 said:
Diane Abbot MP, is Shadow Home Secretary, which means that should a disaster of great magnitude ever befall this country, and her Marxist-Leninist led Labour Party get into Government, she will be in charge of the department responsible for the country’s laws.
And there are a great many things she's said and done that scare the st out of me should that ever become a reality.I'm not sure drinking an M&S Mojito is one of them.
I think a bit of perspective is called for.
Edited by bhstewie on Saturday 20th April 13:35
Frank7 said:
bhstewie said:
Frank7 said:
Diane Abbot MP, is Shadow Home Secretary, which means that should a disaster of great magnitude ever befall this country, and her Marxist-Leninist led Labour Party get into Government, she will be in charge of the department responsible for the country’s laws.
And there are a great many things she's said and done that scare the st out of me should that ever become a reality.I'm not sure drinking an M&S Mojito is one of them.
I think a bit of perspective is called for.
Edited by bhstewie on Saturday 20th April 13:35
What is the penalty for sipping an m&s Mohito on a train? No one has mentioned it yet. Does anyone know?
Does it only apply if you drink on the train? If you get totally muntered in the pub and then catch the train and vomit everywhere is it ok? Can I sip red wine if the bottle is in a paper bag? Is drinking on the street ok as long as I finish before the bus arrives? Is it ok to carry alcohol on the train if I don’t open it?
It’s stupid unenforceable law because to do so would require a policeman on every tfl vehicle and because as outlined above it won’t make a difference to drunk behaviour on public transport because people who get drunk will be drunk anyway regardless of whether they were actually drinking on the bus.
I happen to think Diana Abbot is a bit of a muppet but in this instance I despise the press for making a deal out of it. A spiteful press is more dangerous than a simple politician sipping on a can of sugar on a train. No wonder all politicians are so stupid these days. No one in their right mind would aspire to be one.
Does it only apply if you drink on the train? If you get totally muntered in the pub and then catch the train and vomit everywhere is it ok? Can I sip red wine if the bottle is in a paper bag? Is drinking on the street ok as long as I finish before the bus arrives? Is it ok to carry alcohol on the train if I don’t open it?
It’s stupid unenforceable law because to do so would require a policeman on every tfl vehicle and because as outlined above it won’t make a difference to drunk behaviour on public transport because people who get drunk will be drunk anyway regardless of whether they were actually drinking on the bus.
I happen to think Diana Abbot is a bit of a muppet but in this instance I despise the press for making a deal out of it. A spiteful press is more dangerous than a simple politician sipping on a can of sugar on a train. No wonder all politicians are so stupid these days. No one in their right mind would aspire to be one.
Bobajobbob said:
What is the penalty for sipping an m&s Mohito on a train? No one has mentioned it yet. Does anyone know?
Does it only apply if you drink on the train? If you get totally muntered in the pub and then catch the train and vomit everywhere is it ok? Can I sip red wine if the bottle is in a paper bag? Is drinking on the street ok as long as I finish before the bus arrives? Is it ok to carry alcohol on the train if I don’t open it?
It’s stupid unenforceable law because to do so would require a policeman on every tfl vehicle and because as outlined above it won’t make a difference to drunk behaviour on public transport because people who get drunk will be drunk anyway regardless of whether they were actually drinking on the bus.
I happen to think Diana Abbot is a bit of a muppet but in this instance I despise the press for making a deal out of it. A spiteful press is more dangerous than a simple politician sipping on a can of sugar on a train. No wonder all politicians are so stupid these days. No one in their right mind would aspire to be one.
Maximum fine of £1,000 https://www.standard.co.uk/news/anger-over-tube-ch...Does it only apply if you drink on the train? If you get totally muntered in the pub and then catch the train and vomit everywhere is it ok? Can I sip red wine if the bottle is in a paper bag? Is drinking on the street ok as long as I finish before the bus arrives? Is it ok to carry alcohol on the train if I don’t open it?
It’s stupid unenforceable law because to do so would require a policeman on every tfl vehicle and because as outlined above it won’t make a difference to drunk behaviour on public transport because people who get drunk will be drunk anyway regardless of whether they were actually drinking on the bus.
I happen to think Diana Abbot is a bit of a muppet but in this instance I despise the press for making a deal out of it. A spiteful press is more dangerous than a simple politician sipping on a can of sugar on a train. No wonder all politicians are so stupid these days. No one in their right mind would aspire to be one.
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/alcohol_arr...
No easily available statistics it would appear. I’d hazard a guess it’s close to zero.
No easily available statistics it would appear. I’d hazard a guess it’s close to zero.
Bobajobbob said:
What is the penalty for sipping an m&s Mohito on a train? No one has mentioned it yet. Does anyone know?
Does it only apply if you drink on the train? If you get totally muntered in the pub and then catch the train and vomit everywhere is it ok? Can I sip red wine if the bottle is in a paper bag? Is drinking on the street ok as long as I finish before the bus arrives? Is it ok to carry alcohol on the train if I don’t open it?
It’s stupid unenforceable law because to do so would require a policeman on every tfl vehicle and because as outlined above it won’t make a difference to drunk behaviour on public transport because people who get drunk will be drunk anyway regardless of whether they were actually drinking on the bus.
I happen to think Diana Abbot is a bit of a muppet but in this instance I despise the press for making a deal out of it. A spiteful press is more dangerous than a simple politician sipping on a can of sugar on a train. No wonder all politicians are so stupid these days. No one in their right mind would aspire to be one.
The law is that you cannot have alcohol on a TFL tube, train, tram, or bus, if you don’t take it on the train, then you won’t be drinking it.Does it only apply if you drink on the train? If you get totally muntered in the pub and then catch the train and vomit everywhere is it ok? Can I sip red wine if the bottle is in a paper bag? Is drinking on the street ok as long as I finish before the bus arrives? Is it ok to carry alcohol on the train if I don’t open it?
It’s stupid unenforceable law because to do so would require a policeman on every tfl vehicle and because as outlined above it won’t make a difference to drunk behaviour on public transport because people who get drunk will be drunk anyway regardless of whether they were actually drinking on the bus.
I happen to think Diana Abbot is a bit of a muppet but in this instance I despise the press for making a deal out of it. A spiteful press is more dangerous than a simple politician sipping on a can of sugar on a train. No wonder all politicians are so stupid these days. No one in their right mind would aspire to be one.
Buying a bottle of wine to take home, unopened, to me sounds okay, but I don’t know exactly how the bye law is worded, although Red, my wife, is adamant that a bottle or two that remains unopened, is fine to take on Public Transport.
If you’re already a bit in the bag, or drunk as a sack, you’ll be bringing the alcohol on the train that you’ve already consumed, inside you, that’s allowed, making a nuisance of yourself probably comes under a different heading.
Johnnytheboy said:
The more I think about this the weirder it seems.
Setting aside moral or legal considerations, does she not have any idea that as a public figure, you do something like this, you're going to get your picture taken?
Her/Labour's "team" must have their heads in their hands.
That's the thing that gets me, leaving aside that it is technically illegal to be doing this, it looks terribly sad sitting there in the early afternoon by oneself on the train, taking a swig of an alcoholic drink and given her high profile, it looks even worse.Setting aside moral or legal considerations, does she not have any idea that as a public figure, you do something like this, you're going to get your picture taken?
Her/Labour's "team" must have their heads in their hands.
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