Senior Politician caught drinking on train
Discussion
biggbn said:
amusingduck said:
"More good than harm" isn't a relative comparison.
"Mao wasn't as bad as Hitler" is a relative comparison
It was said in comparison to hitler though, the interview is available, watch it. A stupid comment for sure but in context not as stupid as some are making out. My recollection is she said, 'on balance I suppose you could say mao did more good than harm, you can't say that about the Nazis' and it was in answer to Neil's question why is it OK to wear a mao t shirt and not a hitler one. Context is everything."Mao wasn't as bad as Hitler" is a relative comparison
Of all the choices to make a valued contribution she goes for the most stupid insane reckoning
possible.Discribing the actions of a monster by stating ‘more good than harm’ must go down as a historic gaffe of monumental proportions. Let’s be honest, the Shadow Home Secretary didn’t have the first clue during the entire episode.
TTwiggy said:
To be fair to her, that question is rather akin to 'when did you stop beating your wife?'
People do wear Mao t-shirts. Abbott is not responsible for what people wear. She was asked a closed question on something that is clearly considered 'ok' by a number of people, giving her the option to either say a) it's not ok to wear that t-shirt (and then have to explain why), or b) try to justify the 'fashion' choices of other people - which she did so, albeit poorly.
If she was sat there in a Mao t-shirt herself (maybe sipping on a Mojito) then it would be rather different.
I do take your point about the closed question but wouldn't go as far as to compare it to 'when did you stop beating your wife?'. Maybe it did put her on the back foot and she worded things clumsily.People do wear Mao t-shirts. Abbott is not responsible for what people wear. She was asked a closed question on something that is clearly considered 'ok' by a number of people, giving her the option to either say a) it's not ok to wear that t-shirt (and then have to explain why), or b) try to justify the 'fashion' choices of other people - which she did so, albeit poorly.
If she was sat there in a Mao t-shirt herself (maybe sipping on a Mojito) then it would be rather different.
Maybe it's just me, but I wouldn't use that phrasing or tone to describe something that other people believe. It honestly comes across to me as tacit endorsement, and that she personally believes the arguments she puts forth. I can't see how else to interpret the shrug at 24 seconds in.
Tryke3 said:
If she was white there wouldn't be 10 pages, on top of that what you guys are saying here just makes race hate casual and mainstream. Perhaps a conversation about race is what this country really needs
Complete ste mate. If it were Amber Rudd my reaction would be exactly the same. Frank7 said:
Johnnytheboy said:
You obviously don't listen to Radio 4, they seem to talk about very little else but 'identity'.
This thread is about DA identifying as a lunchtime public transport solo drinker.
Although it has begun to lean toward her time and place for consuming alcohol, (no doubt to portray her as an alcoholic IMO), I thought that the thread was about her ignoring, and thereby breaking a TFL byelaw, prohibiting the consumption of alcohol anywhere on TFL trains, buses and trams.This thread is about DA identifying as a lunchtime public transport solo drinker.
A law that no matter how petty some posters may see it as, is a law nonetheless, and one which a London MP should reasonably be presumed to be aware of.
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