School protests - sex education
Discussion
markcoznottz said:
Good luck with getting the Pakistani community behind this,it's just not thier thing at all.
We are in it for the long run to be fair things like this are a side show. When Tony Blair green lit £40 billion of arms sales to Saudi Arabia, he tied our hands. What came the other way was money for wahhabist/deobanist mosques in the uk, with extremely conservative values. We also buy lpg off Qatar who do similar. Never mind the other gas that' originates in Russia! Not much room to move really and very precarious relationships. Not a subject that gets raised much although someone raised the point in question time, brave individual.
Are you getting the Pakistani community mixed up with the Muslim community?We are in it for the long run to be fair things like this are a side show. When Tony Blair green lit £40 billion of arms sales to Saudi Arabia, he tied our hands. What came the other way was money for wahhabist/deobanist mosques in the uk, with extremely conservative values. We also buy lpg off Qatar who do similar. Never mind the other gas that' originates in Russia! Not much room to move really and very precarious relationships. Not a subject that gets raised much although someone raised the point in question time, brave individual.
gregs656 said:
desolate said:
When you have the government supporting them it's a bit tricky to do that.
Is the govt supporting them? They shouldn’t be.
It's a popular position to hold.
Pesty said:
Funny how it’s only one side that has to be tolerant. When they say our children they mean their children f
k the kafir.
Outsiders in our own country.
Wait until they become 20% and start getting bold.
Those signs are going to cause consternation in parts of Scotland, given that an 'outsider' is what they call the crusts on the ends of a sliced loaf.k the kafir.Outsiders in our own country.
Wait until they become 20% and start getting bold.
desolate said:
It's not, but it gives their position some support and validity.
Why not just tell them to get on with it?
The difference is that not sending them to school is an unauthorised absence and they should be fined for it. Not doing that gives their position some validity. Why not just tell them to get on with it?
I’m like I said, I don’t support withdrawal from lessons either but that is a long standing compromise.
bristolbaron said:
markcoznottz said:
Good luck with getting the Pakistani community behind this,it's just not thier thing at all.
We are in it for the long run to be fair things like this are a side show. When Tony Blair green lit £40 billion of arms sales to Saudi Arabia, he tied our hands. What came the other way was money for wahhabist/deobanist mosques in the uk, with extremely conservative values. We also buy lpg off Qatar who do similar. Never mind the other gas that' originates in Russia! Not much room to move really and very precarious relationships. Not a subject that gets raised much although someone raised the point in question time, brave individual.
Are you getting the Pakistani community mixed up with the Muslim community?We are in it for the long run to be fair things like this are a side show. When Tony Blair green lit £40 billion of arms sales to Saudi Arabia, he tied our hands. What came the other way was money for wahhabist/deobanist mosques in the uk, with extremely conservative values. We also buy lpg off Qatar who do similar. Never mind the other gas that' originates in Russia! Not much room to move really and very precarious relationships. Not a subject that gets raised much although someone raised the point in question time, brave individual.
gregs656 said:
desolate said:
It's not, but it gives their position some support and validity.
Why not just tell them to get on with it?
The difference is that not sending them to school is an unauthorised absence and they should be fined for it. Not doing that gives their position some validity. Why not just tell them to get on with it?
I’m like I said, I don’t support withdrawal from lessons either but that is a long standing compromise.
My son doesn’t like maths, so I can keep him at home ?
Diversion said:
Do we have a situation here where if Muslims don’t like a particular part of the curriculum they are allowed to withdraw their children from them ?
My son doesn’t like maths, so I can keep him at home ?
It appears that this stuff is very much infra dig for the kuffar as well.My son doesn’t like maths, so I can keep him at home ?
It's also not part of the curriculum apparently.
Diversion said:
Do we have a situation here where if Muslims don’t like a particular part of the curriculum they are allowed to withdraw their children from them ?
My son doesn’t like maths, so I can keep him at home ?
Parents were allowed to withdraw their kids from lessons which didn't fit in with their religious beliefs when I was at school, I left in 1992.My son doesn’t like maths, so I can keep him at home ?
Countdown said:
Are the protests unique to either the Muslim community or the Pakistani community? Surely the position should be "Actually we don't particularly care which community you're from, we believe that Schools should be allowed to teach this because it fits in with British values"
Quite. In my class it was a Jehovah’s Witness whose parents withdrew him from certain lessons. Seemed absurd to me at the time and my opinion hasn’t changed. Diversion said:
I didn’t know that.
So this protest and withdrawal of children is actually ok / legal ?
Withdrawing from lessons is different to not sending them to school at all. So this protest and withdrawal of children is actually ok / legal ?
Countdown said:
bristolbaron said:
markcoznottz said:
Good luck with getting the Pakistani community behind this,it's just not thier thing at all.
We are in it for the long run to be fair things like this are a side show. When Tony Blair green lit £40 billion of arms sales to Saudi Arabia, he tied our hands. What came the other way was money for wahhabist/deobanist mosques in the uk, with extremely conservative values. We also buy lpg off Qatar who do similar. Never mind the other gas that' originates in Russia! Not much room to move really and very precarious relationships. Not a subject that gets raised much although someone raised the point in question time, brave individual.
Are you getting the Pakistani community mixed up with the Muslim community?We are in it for the long run to be fair things like this are a side show. When Tony Blair green lit £40 billion of arms sales to Saudi Arabia, he tied our hands. What came the other way was money for wahhabist/deobanist mosques in the uk, with extremely conservative values. We also buy lpg off Qatar who do similar. Never mind the other gas that' originates in Russia! Not much room to move really and very precarious relationships. Not a subject that gets raised much although someone raised the point in question time, brave individual.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.spectator.co.uk...
s1962a said:
Rivenink said:
s1962a said:
So in typical PH fashion, if your kids school was doing a religious seminar and an LGBT educational seminar on the same day for your kids, you'd be up in arms about the religions education, and a religious type would be up in arms against the LGBT session.. but you'd claim the other person was wrong and not being tolerant?
That makes sense.
I'm glad it makes sense to you, because I'm struggling to pick out what exactly it is you're making a point about. That makes sense.
and one group who wishes to be allowed to persecute and attack
Diversion said:
Do we have a situation here where if Muslims don’t like a particular part of the curriculum they are allowed to withdraw their children from them ?
My son doesn’t like maths, so I can keep him at home ?
You are Jonah Ryan and I clam my $5My son doesn’t like maths, so I can keep him at home ?
https://youtu.be/embMAtagQiU?t=50
fesuvious said:
The real 'story' is the highlighting of how incompatible Islam, is with modern society in any non-Islamic country.
The media are tiptoeing around it but the real clash is yet to be widely reported and be brought to wider and more obvious attention.
Islam is not compatible with any other belief system or societal construct.
If poor children weren't suffering it'd be popcorn worthy watching it play out.
More people need to ask themselves about the home, faith based indoctrination happening when the parents are strict followers of the literal word of the Koran.
I worry about it
It wasn't that long ago that our Prime Minister made a speech saying that it was wrong for kids to be taught that had an "inalienable right to be gay"The media are tiptoeing around it but the real clash is yet to be widely reported and be brought to wider and more obvious attention.
Islam is not compatible with any other belief system or societal construct.
If poor children weren't suffering it'd be popcorn worthy watching it play out.
More people need to ask themselves about the home, faith based indoctrination happening when the parents are strict followers of the literal word of the Koran.
I worry about it
Section 28 was only repealed in 2000.
All parents are allowed to withdraw their kids from such lessons and many schools don't have them at all.
Posters are saying that this issue must cause problems for "liberals" - it's exactly the opposite of that. Social conservatives on the one hand demand integration and on the other support the right to withdraw from matters of social integration that they disagree with.
Getting nasty now: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-4...
As for the tt organising the protests - he doesn't even have kids at the school..............
As for the t
t organising the protests - he doesn't even have kids at the school..............Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff