School protests - sex education

School protests - sex education

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rscott

14,761 posts

191 months

Thursday 18th July 2019
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fiju said:
amusingduck said:
Great job on saving precisely 0 characters as compared to "muslims"
Point taken... are these people all muslims?
Most of the parents are, but they're getting a lot of support from other religious groups - eg https://www.rotherhamadvertiser.co.uk/news/view,vi...

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Friday 26th July 2019
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I'd completely ignored this story until today when there was a surprisingly nuanced article on it on Radio 4.

I hadn't realised

a. that the school in question weren't merely complying with some national curriculum mandate to teach small children about LGBTQI+ (etc) stuff
b. that the protests are not predominantly parents but have been thoroughly infiltrated/taken over by people with a "conservative religious agenda (BBC paraphrase)".

Prior to today I'd assumed it was 'medieval religion's army of nutjobs vs. the modern world', now I'm not so sure.

The article said that what this school are electing to teach will eventually be included in the national curriculum. However, it struck me as equally dogmatic and ideology-driven for school staff in an area full of evidently not exactly brilliant integrated Muslim immigrants to think pushing ahead of the curve on LGBT education was a bright idea.


skwdenyer

16,504 posts

240 months

Friday 26th July 2019
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Johnnytheboy said:
I'd completely ignored this story until today when there was a surprisingly nuanced article on it on Radio 4.

I hadn't realised

a. that the school in question weren't merely complying with some national curriculum mandate to teach small children about LGBTQI+ (etc) stuff
b. that the protests are not predominantly parents but have been thoroughly infiltrated/taken over by people with a "conservative religious agenda (BBC paraphrase)".

Prior to today I'd assumed it was 'medieval religion's army of nutjobs vs. the modern world', now I'm not so sure.

The article said that what this school are electing to teach will eventually be included in the national curriculum. However, it struck me as equally dogmatic and ideology-driven for school staff in an area full of evidently not exactly brilliant integrated Muslim immigrants to think pushing ahead of the curve on LGBT education was a bright idea.
Given your description of the area, I'd hardly call the school "dogmatic and ideology-driven" so much as responding to the clearly-defined need for targeted diversity education in an area where the parents cannot necessarily be relied upon to deliver it to their children. A population of overseas extraction doesn't IMHO have the right to undo the progress made in diversity and inclusivity here. If you don't educate the children, the cycle will simply continue.

gregs656

10,886 posts

181 months

Friday 26th July 2019
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Johnnytheboy said:
I'd completely ignored this story until today when there was a surprisingly nuanced article on it on Radio 4.

I hadn't realised

a. that the school in question weren't merely complying with some national curriculum mandate to teach small children about LGBTQI+ (etc) stuff
This is incorrect, since 2014 schools are expected to be able to demonstrate their strategy for embedding British values.

This includes, for example, being able to identify and counter discrimination.


BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Friday 26th July 2019
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Not surprised to read this.

“The government put "extreme pressure" on a school to stop lessons on LGBT relationships, a chief executive said.

Hazel Pulley said Parkfield Community School suspended the teachings following "frantic phone calls" from the Department for Education (DfE).

"The DfE really wanted the protests to stop. They wanted it out of the press," said Ms Pulley, who is head of the trust which runs the school.”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-birmingh...

Davos123

5,966 posts

212 months

Friday 26th July 2019
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fk the government. Spinless s

InitialDave

11,907 posts

119 months

Friday 26th July 2019
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Pathetic.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Saturday 27th July 2019
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BlackLabel said:
Not surprised to read this.

“The government put "extreme pressure" on a school to stop lessons on LGBT relationships, a chief executive said.

Hazel Pulley said Parkfield Community School suspended the teachings following "frantic phone calls" from the Department for Education (DfE).

"The DfE really wanted the protests to stop. They wanted it out of the press," said Ms Pulley, who is head of the trust which runs the school.”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-birmingh...
Yes, this is the story to which I was referring.

If - as gregs656 has assured me - such lessons are mandatory, it seems odd of the DfE to try and stop them happening.