Gay couple beaten for refusing to kiss for a mob
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GreenDog said:
Escy said:
Let's get one thing straight, it's awful what happened to them.
My point is there is a lack if clarity around that part of the story, I think there is a reason why it's vague.
As for why she'd start the physical violence, everyone has a breaking point and you can easily see how she'd reach hers with these idiots goading them. Maybe she hit one not expecting to get hit back as she's a women? Maybe she didn't even consider her own saftey?
Even if your speculation is correct and she did hit one of the men she didn't start the physical violence, they did when they threw coins at the couple, therefore her act would count as self defence I'd say.My point is there is a lack if clarity around that part of the story, I think there is a reason why it's vague.
As for why she'd start the physical violence, everyone has a breaking point and you can easily see how she'd reach hers with these idiots goading them. Maybe she hit one not expecting to get hit back as she's a women? Maybe she didn't even consider her own saftey?
But, that would be for a court of law to decide based on the full facts
It's all speculations. But the facts are two women were beaten up by a group of men.
Whatever happened between Chris and the group, real men would not put two women in that situation nor would they beat them up. Maybe Chris was trying to exit the top of the bus but the group were blocking her.
If the coins were being thrown along with the abuse surely that would then offset any counter allegation if Chris did lash out at one of them.
But it's just a very sad situation which was created by that gang. Unfortunately a common one.
The only saving grace is that no knives were used in this attack.
Whatever happened between Chris and the group, real men would not put two women in that situation nor would they beat them up. Maybe Chris was trying to exit the top of the bus but the group were blocking her.
If the coins were being thrown along with the abuse surely that would then offset any counter allegation if Chris did lash out at one of them.
But it's just a very sad situation which was created by that gang. Unfortunately a common one.
The only saving grace is that no knives were used in this attack.
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 7th June 14:43
TTwiggy said:
Let's see now...
Gay - check
Women - check
Yeah, that's going to drop them a long way down the 'PH gives s
t' list.
The only way to turn the victim-blaming around is a suggestion that the attackers were Muslim asylum-seekers who arrived from a neighbouring EU country.
Being elderly and pro trump would have done... Gay - check
Women - check
Yeah, that's going to drop them a long way down the 'PH gives s
t' list.The only way to turn the victim-blaming around is a suggestion that the attackers were Muslim asylum-seekers who arrived from a neighbouring EU country.
Earthdweller said:
From reading her account and the FB page linked I’d say that there is more to this than is possibly portrayed
I get that there has been some unwanted attention.. two girls kissing on a night bus .. group of lads get leery and homophobic
There’s then “an exchange ” between the two groups and it seems possible one of the girls launches into the lads flailing like a banshee .. it all kicks off and the 2nd girl wades in and there is a general affray !
I note that this isn’t an appeal from the Met, but someone picking up on a FB post from one of those involved, and the comments from the Met are rather non commital and treating it as an assault and Robbery
Violence, robbery and homophobia can never be right but I’d be intrigued to see the cctv if there is any
Girls can be just as angry, violent and aggressive as guys especially if there is drink involved
Interesting to see how it develops
Two issues here, which seem like victim blaming. I get that there has been some unwanted attention.. two girls kissing on a night bus .. group of lads get leery and homophobic
There’s then “an exchange ” between the two groups and it seems possible one of the girls launches into the lads flailing like a banshee .. it all kicks off and the 2nd girl wades in and there is a general affray !
I note that this isn’t an appeal from the Met, but someone picking up on a FB post from one of those involved, and the comments from the Met are rather non commital and treating it as an assault and Robbery
Violence, robbery and homophobia can never be right but I’d be intrigued to see the cctv if there is any
Girls can be just as angry, violent and aggressive as guys especially if there is drink involved
Interesting to see how it develops
Firstly if one of the girls did start "flailing like a Banshee" then it was after having abuse and some coins hurled her way. Secondly if you think that in any ways justifies them assaulting her you need to give in your man card. Their picture is in the BBC article, have you seen the size of her?
I very much doubt this was "homophobic" as the lads seemed more interested in seeing them making out than anything. But hopefully the accusation will make the police treat the case with proper seriousness and the attackers get their just deserts.
Edited by JagLover on Friday 7th June 14:55
JagLover said:
I very much doubt this was "homophobic" as the lads seemed more interested in seeing them making out that anything. But hopefully the accusation will make the police treat the case with proper seriousness and the attackers get their just deserts.
It's absolutely "homophobic"They were targeted entirely because of their sexuality
TTwiggy said:
Let's see now...
Gay - check
Women - check
Yeah, that's going to drop them a long way down the 'PH gives st' list.
The only way to turn the victim-blaming around is a suggestion that the attackers were Muslim asylum-seekers who arrived from a neighbouring EU country.
Go on, edit to say 'Brexit' and the dolts favorite, ' St Farage' too. Gay - check
Women - check
Yeah, that's going to drop them a long way down the 'PH gives s
t' list.The only way to turn the victim-blaming around is a suggestion that the attackers were Muslim asylum-seekers who arrived from a neighbouring EU country.
JagLover said:
Snip
I very much doubt this was "homophobic" as the lads seemed more interested in seeing them making out than anything. But hopefully the accusation will make the police treat the case with proper seriousness and the attackers get their just deserts.
So throwing stuff at people encourages them to make out like performing animals?I very much doubt this was "homophobic" as the lads seemed more interested in seeing them making out than anything. But hopefully the accusation will make the police treat the case with proper seriousness and the attackers get their just deserts.
Edited by JagLover on Friday 7th June 14:55
boyse7en said:
JagLover said:
I very much doubt this was "homophobic" as the lads seemed more interested in seeing them making out that anything. But hopefully the accusation will make the police treat the case with proper seriousness and the attackers get their just deserts.
It's absolutely "homophobic"They were targeted entirely because of their sexuality
TTwiggy said:
Otis Criblecoblis said:
Go on, edit to say 'Brexit' and the dolts favorite, ' St Farage' too.
Why would I want to do that? Seems you have a bit of a chip on your shoulder. Remind us what your login used to be?Otis Criblecoblis said:
TTwiggy said:
Otis Criblecoblis said:
Go on, edit to say 'Brexit' and the dolts favorite, ' St Farage' too.
Why would I want to do that? Seems you have a bit of a chip on your shoulder. Remind us what your login used to be?Shakermaker said:
Escapegoat said:
shakotan said:
Technically this isn't a 'homophobic' attack.
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