Gay couple beaten for refusing to kiss for a mob

[rscott]

Pesty said:

bhstewie said:

Rollin said:

Can you give me a reason why?

I've been assaulted several times in my life. Once for being "a long haired " and once for "looking at my bird in the wrong way". On each occasion, I never did anything to provoke the assault.

Why should the perpetrators of the crimes against me expect a lighter sentence than if they had assaulted someone from a protected category?

I see it really simply.

If I beat you up because you were "looking at my bird in the wrong way" that's bad.

If I beat you up solely because you're black, gay, of a certain religion etc. that's worse.

The law recognises this.

A black eye is a black eye. The assault has the same result why should the reason make a difference.
The attackers are equally bad violence should never be lessened because he’s x and that’s ones y

You appear to be suggesting the sentence for manslaughter and murder should be the same then?

[bitchstewie]

Pesty said:

bhstewie said:

Rollin said:

Can you give me a reason why?

I've been assaulted several times in my life. Once for being "a long haired " and once for "looking at my bird in the wrong way". On each occasion, I never did anything to provoke the assault.

Why should the perpetrators of the crimes against me expect a lighter sentence than if they had assaulted someone from a protected category?

I see it really simply.

If I beat you up because you were "looking at my bird in the wrong way" that's bad.

If I beat you up solely because you're black, gay, of a certain religion etc. that's worse.

The law recognises this.

A black eye is a black eye. The assault has the same result why should the reason make a difference.
The attackers are equally bad violence should never be lessened because he’s x and that’s ones y

As I've said the law recognises it.

By your logic there's no difference between someone hanging up bacon outside a random building or outside a mosque as the end result is the same.

Reasons make a massive difference and the law takes this into account thankfully.

[bitchstewie]

Looks like they've admitted to the attack that some thought didn't happen.

Awaiting sentencing.

Revealed: Sickening moment three teenage thugs attacked doctor, 28, and her girlfriend, 27, in horrific homophobic attack on London night bus after they refused to kiss

[Lucas Ayde]

bhstewie said:

Looks like they've admitted to the attack that some thought didn't happen.

Awaiting sentencing.

Revealed: Sickening moment three teenage thugs attacked doctor, 28, and her girlfriend, 27, in horrific homophobic attack on London night bus after they refused to kiss

Now that the facts are out, surprise surprise - one of the 'victims' actually initiated the violence, as many suspected.

https://youtu.be/dv1Ycfc0tFM

Perhaps unsurprisingly, none of the media which were loudly virtue signalling about 'homophobic attacks' have bothered to point out that little detail.

And yes, the youths who were baiting them are scumbags and deserved to get punished for the theft which followed the fight that the blonde woman started.

[rscott]

Lucas Ayde said:

bhstewie said:

Looks like they've admitted to the attack that some thought didn't happen.

Awaiting sentencing.

Revealed: Sickening moment three teenage thugs attacked doctor, 28, and her girlfriend, 27, in horrific homophobic attack on London night bus after they refused to kiss

Now that the facts are out, surprise surprise - one of the 'victims' actually initiated the violence, as many suspected.

https://youtu.be/dv1Ycfc0tFM

Perhaps unsurprisingly, none of the media which were loudly virtue signalling about 'homophobic attacks' have bothered to point out that little detail.

And yes, the youths who were baiting them are scumbags and deserved to get punished for the theft which followed the fight that the blonde woman started.

Not sure why, but your YouTube link doesn't seem to work for me. Asks me to sign with a Google Apps account.

[JagLover]

Lucas Ayde said:

Now that the facts are out, surprise surprise - one of the 'victims' actually initiated the violence, as many suspected.

https://youtu.be/dv1Ycfc0tFM

Perhaps unsurprisingly, none of the media which were loudly virtue signalling about 'homophobic attacks' have bothered to point out that little detail.

And yes, the youths who were baiting them are scumbags and deserved to get punished for the theft which followed the fight that the blonde woman started.

Don't really agree with you there. It has long been seen as socially acceptable for a woman to respond to obscene remarks or the like with a slap. That doesn't then give physically stronger males the right to assault them in return, they should have behaved properly around a lady to start with.

[zygalski]

The assault was initiated by the men.
They threw coins at the women first after goading them about how they fked.

[bitchstewie]

Lucas Ayde said:

Now that the facts are out, surprise surprise - one of the 'victims' actually initiated the violence, as many suspected.

https://youtu.be/dv1Ycfc0tFM

Perhaps unsurprisingly, none of the media which were loudly virtue signalling about 'homophobic attacks' have bothered to point out that little detail.

And yes, the youths who were baiting them are scumbags and deserved to get punished for the theft which followed the fight that the blonde woman started.

Have you contacted the Police with this new evidence?

The three people who pleaded guilty will be sentenced on the 23rd so if you believe there has been a miscarriage of justice you don't have long.

[voyds9]

JagLover said:

Don't really agree with you there. It has long been seen as socially acceptable for a woman to respond to obscene remarks or the like with a slap. That doesn't then give physically stronger males the right to assault them in return, they should have behaved properly around a lady to start with.

It has also been long accepted that women should be in the kitchen or bed and were too stupid to manage their own affairs.

So you don't believe in sexual equality then.

[JagLover]

voyds9 said:

JagLover said:

Don't really agree with you there. It has long been seen as socially acceptable for a woman to respond to obscene remarks or the like with a slap. That doesn't then give physically stronger males the right to assault them in return, they should have behaved properly around a lady to start with.

It has also been long accepted that women should be in the kitchen or bed and were too stupid to manage their own affairs.

So you don't believe in sexual equality then.

I believe fully in sexual equality. I just don't believe women are the same as men or have the same physical strength. I also don't think that men should be making obscene remarks to women (unless they are in a relationship and it is welcomed of course).

[InitialDave]

If you think giving someone verbal abuse and/or throwing things at them doesn't count as "starting a fight", you're going to get punched in the face a lot.

[Teddy Lop]

InitialDave said:

If you think giving someone verbal abuse and/or throwing things at them doesn't count as "starting a fight", you're going to get punched in the face a lot.

perhaps, the point is it was her that escalated it to fists. As far as I'm concerned that's fine, power to her, but its not what was widely reported.

[JagLover]

anonymous said:

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How did that work out for him?, given that he has been arrested and tried and he almost certainty wouldn't have been if he had a scrap with another young lad.

[rscott]

Teddy Lop said:

InitialDave said:

If you think giving someone verbal abuse and/or throwing things at them doesn't count as "starting a fight", you're going to get punched in the face a lot.

perhaps, the point is it was her that escalated it to fists. As far as I'm concerned that's fine, power to her, but its not what was widely reported.

Except she wasn't the first to escalate it beyond words - the lads were throwing coins at the women first.

[InitialDave]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

I agree she shouldn't have hit him, but purely on grounds of her own self-preservation.

If she'd been some kind of MMA expert and had given him an utter pasting, I'd be fine with that. Good educational experience for such a person.

[Teddy Lop]

rscott said:

Teddy Lop said:

InitialDave said:

If you think giving someone verbal abuse and/or throwing things at them doesn't count as "starting a fight", you're going to get punched in the face a lot.

perhaps, the point is it was her that escalated it to fists. As far as I'm concerned that's fine, power to her, but its not what was widely reported.

Except she wasn't the first to escalate it beyond words - the lads were throwing coins at the women first.

which is despicable and if one gets a smack for it I'm not defending.

What is so difficult to understand?

[rscott]

Teddy Lop said:

rscott said:

Teddy Lop said:

InitialDave said:

If you think giving someone verbal abuse and/or throwing things at them doesn't count as "starting a fight", you're going to get punched in the face a lot.

perhaps, the point is it was her that escalated it to fists. As far as I'm concerned that's fine, power to her, but its not what was widely reported.

Except she wasn't the first to escalate it beyond words - the lads were throwing coins at the women first.

which is despicable and if one gets a smack for it I'm not defending.

What is so difficult to understand?

You complained the reports don't indicate she escalated it to physical contact - they don't, because she didn't. The little sts had already done that by throwing coins at them.

[Teddy Lop]

rscott said:

You complained the reports don't indicate she escalated it to physical contact - they don't, because she didn't. The little sts had already done that by throwing coins at them.

the reports painted the picture that they were just minding their own business and had the st kicked out of them just because, as if there was nothing they could do to prevent being bloodied. That was inaccurate.

[anonymous-user]

No one can defend the males for what they did. Clearly out for trouble. They are scum and are right to be sentenced.

But why not just exit the top of the bus and move away from the situation? When she attacked she freely moved past the closest two youths to attack the other so there was nothing stopping them both from leaving.

Yes, why should they have to leave but there are times a sensible head is better than resorting to violence.

[Alpinestars]

Lucas Ayde said:

Now that the facts are out, surprise surprise - one of the 'victims' actually initiated the violence, as many suspected.

https://youtu.be/dv1Ycfc0tFM

Perhaps unsurprisingly, none of the media which were loudly virtue signalling about 'homophobic attacks' have bothered to point out that little detail.

And yes, the youths who were baiting them are scumbags and deserved to get punished for the theft which followed the fight that the blonde woman started.

Why surprise surprise? Did you have a preconceived idea of what happened?

Do you think the defence wouldn’t have had access to this video?