Gulf of Oman incidents
Discussion
BMRuss said:
No matter, the Belgian, Slovakian, Czech and Austrian Naval forces will help sort this out as the Europeans have agreed to get involved, pah. 
I was given a tour of a Belgian ship's Exocet missile ops room. Very interesting. Toured with the Polish Navy who were purchasing the ship. Belgium was upgrading her naval capability; much of the Royal Belgian Navy was ex-US Navy.Suspect the poster thought Belgium was landlocked (its not, remember Herald of Free Enterprise), and posted a clever clogs quip. Neither are the Baltic States (hint, Baltic Sea), though they have only a coastal defence force.
MX5Biologist said:
I was given a tour of a Belgian ship's Exocet missile ops room. Very interesting. Toured with the Polish Navy who were purchasing the ship. Belgium was upgrading her naval capability; much of the Royal Belgian Navy was ex-US Navy.
Suspect the poster thought Belgium was landlocked (its not, remember Herald of Free Enterprise), and posted a clever clogs quip. Neither are the Baltic States (hint, Baltic Sea), though they have only a coastal defence force.
hint, blue against brown water navies.Suspect the poster thought Belgium was landlocked (its not, remember Herald of Free Enterprise), and posted a clever clogs quip. Neither are the Baltic States (hint, Baltic Sea), though they have only a coastal defence force.
Condi said:
Countdown said:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/...
John Bolton is a dangerous psychopath who would like nothing better than to nuke half the Middle East, although of course, like Trump, he avoided military service himself. The fact that man is anywhere near the decision making table shows how badly the US administration is managed. Javed Zarif said:
Make no mistake. Having failed to lure Donald Trump into a War of the Century, and fearing collapse of his B Team, John Bolton is turning his venom against the UK in hopes of dragging it into a quagmire.”
John Bolton deliberately avoided Vietnam as he "had no desire to die in a South East Asian rice paddy"Gadgetmac said:
funkyrobot said:
Iran have released some footage of them apparently telling a British warship to do one. 
Dear oh dear.
The humiliation continues Dear oh dear.
I suspect the Warfare Officer was laughing his cock off at the "threat".
Just drop a single 4.5 shell through the gun boat from 30kms away. Maybe a salvo of HE shells at one every two seconds of you really want to ruin their day
https://youtu.be/K4P0N0f9fq0
Edited by 98elise on Monday 29th July 21:00
98elise said:
Gadgetmac said:
funkyrobot said:
Iran have released some footage of them apparently telling a British warship to do one.
Dear oh dear.
The humiliation continues Dear oh dear.
I suspect the Warfare Officer was laughing his cock off at the "threat".
Just drop a single 4.5 shell through the gun boat from 30kms away. Maybe a salvo of HE shells at one every two seconds of you really want to ruin their day
https://youtu.be/K4P0N0f9fq0
Edited by 98elise on Monday 29th July 21:00
98elise said:
Gadgetmac said:
funkyrobot said:
Iran have released some footage of them apparently telling a British warship to do one.
Dear oh dear.
The humiliation continues Dear oh dear.
I suspect the Warfare Officer was laughing his cock off at the "threat".
Just drop a single 4.5 shell through the gun boat from 30kms away. Maybe a salvo of HE shells at one every two seconds of you really want to ruin their day
https://youtu.be/K4P0N0f9fq0
Edited by 98elise on Monday 29th July 21:00
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvand-class_friga...
HarryW said:
98elise said:
Gadgetmac said:
funkyrobot said:
Iran have released some footage of them apparently telling a British warship to do one.
Dear oh dear.
The humiliation continues Dear oh dear.
I suspect the Warfare Officer was laughing his cock off at the "threat".
Just drop a single 4.5 shell through the gun boat from 30kms away. Maybe a salvo of HE shells at one every two seconds of you really want to ruin their day
https://youtu.be/K4P0N0f9fq0
Edited by 98elise on Monday 29th July 21:00
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvand-class_friga...
Edited by 98elise on Tuesday 30th July 06:32
ecsrobin said:
98elise said:
They were using the threat from a small gun boat, not a warship. It was a laughable threat...not a humiliation for the RN.
Although warships aren’t really geared up for taking on small gun boats are they? Look at USS Cole.
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/hms-sutherland-fir...
ecsrobin said:
98elise said:
They were using the threat from a small gun boat, not a warship. It was a laughable threat...not a humiliation for the RN.
Although warships aren’t really geared up for taking on small gun boats are they? Look at USS Cole.
Phalanx also has a surface mode for close in defence and the 4.5 is effective against surface targets (of any size) at a distance.
No modern warship should have a bind spot for small fast boats.
Edited by 98elise on Tuesday 30th July 08:00
98elise said:
Yes they are. There are mini-gun mounts and 30mm cannons specifically for small fast boats.
Phalanx also has a surface mode for close in defence and the 4.5 is effective against surface targets (of any size) at a distance.
No modern warship should have a bind spot for small fast boats.
Looks very effective stopping the boat....Phalanx also has a surface mode for close in defence and the 4.5 is effective against surface targets (of any size) at a distance.
No modern warship should have a bind spot for small fast boats.
Edited by 98elise on Tuesday 30th July 08:00
https://youtu.be/Yf8RExzMdfg
ecsrobin said:
Although warships aren’t really geared up for taking on small gun boats are they?
Look at USS Cole.
I can’t see any relevance in the Cole incident at allLook at USS Cole.
The Cole was moored alongside, non operational, and in the process of being refuelled when suicide bombers drive a high speed bomb into it side
Very different from an active warship at sea with weapons systems live
Earthdweller said:
I can’t see any relevance in the Cole incident at all
The Cole was moored alongside, non operational, and in the process of being refuelled when suicide bombers drive a high speed bomb into it side
Very different from an active warship at sea with weapons systems live
Having been on a US warship at anchor in the UK it had troops stationed on .50cal guns around it. This was post USS Cole so not sure if that changed anything? The Cole was moored alongside, non operational, and in the process of being refuelled when suicide bombers drive a high speed bomb into it side
Very different from an active warship at sea with weapons systems live
Has anyone ever put a modern-ish frigate/destroyer up against a swarm of armed speedboats? I do wonder how effective a couple of destroyers can be opposite the actual coast of a rival country.
I remember that in the battle of Jutland the Germans use of MTB's discouraged Jellicoe from pursuing the fleet south.
There was also an American wargame around the millennium where the US General in charge of "Iran" decimated a US carrier group and resigned in protest when the rules were changed to provide easy victory for the Americans. It's worth a read if you fancy a laugh:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challen...
I remember that in the battle of Jutland the Germans use of MTB's discouraged Jellicoe from pursuing the fleet south.
There was also an American wargame around the millennium where the US General in charge of "Iran" decimated a US carrier group and resigned in protest when the rules were changed to provide easy victory for the Americans. It's worth a read if you fancy a laugh:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challen...
Edited by glazbagun on Sunday 4th August 16:08
P&O have just cancelled Oceana’s Winter programme based out of Dubai, specifically because she is British registered. Other ships in the group Costa and Carnival will still be out there. Overall there were something like 9 cruises planned to be operating through the straights of Hormuz this winter season. It will interesting to see if any others decide the risk is too big.
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