Gulf of Oman incidents
Discussion
Tryke3 said:
ITS ALWAYS NATIONALISM
You are somewhat off what the issues is, there is country where most of the male population has lived under war conditions for generations, these men are many, fearless and far past giving a f
k about life unlike "comfortable" saudi soldiers. Saudis literally need to execute whole population to win this war
Isn’t this religious sects - Sunni versus Shia - fighting, rather than nationalism?You are somewhat off what the issues is, there is country where most of the male population has lived under war conditions for generations, these men are many, fearless and far past giving a f
k about life unlike "comfortable" saudi soldiers. Saudis literally need to execute whole population to win this warloafer123 said:
Isn’t this religious sects - Sunni versus Shia - fighting, rather than nationalism?
In the harder line religiously governed states they are one and the same. The best the west can do is leave them to it. Off course that means not supplying huge amounts of arms, so we won’t be able to resist.
Tryke3 said:
ITS ALWAYS NATIONALISM
You are somewhat off what the issues is, there is country where most of the male population has lived under war conditions for generations, these men are many, fearless and far past giving a fk about life unlike "comfortable" saudi soldiers. Saudis literally need to execute whole population to win this war
The Saudis have the relative luxury of using American (& Israeli) technology to attack the Iranians from a distance (in comfort). The Americans (and we) are quite happy making millions from supplying them with that technology so they can effectively play Call of Duty for real and not actually risk getting killed themselves. The unknown risk is - how far will the Iranians retaliate, and who will they retaliate against?You are somewhat off what the issues is, there is country where most of the male population has lived under war conditions for generations, these men are many, fearless and far past giving a f
k about life unlike "comfortable" saudi soldiers. Saudis literally need to execute whole population to win this warFittster said:
What kind of drones would have been used? If my mind there are predator drones and expensive toys for middle aged men, with nothing much inbeteween.
There's loads on the market, the technology is fairly basic. There's plenty of countries that have built their own, china have lots available for exports. some 'expert' was saying the rebels must be using some sort of giant towers the iranians have to amplify the drone signal and get the range. Sounds like rubbish as Iran is 1000s of miles away.
Finished by saying his outfit can sell MBS stuff to counteract this threat.
Wonder what MBS makes of all the patriot missile batteries he was also sold?
Maybe that bomb detector bloke that sold the whole ME the box with a bit of wire in it is out of prison and ready to rock yet?
Finished by saying his outfit can sell MBS stuff to counteract this threat.
Wonder what MBS makes of all the patriot missile batteries he was also sold?
Maybe that bomb detector bloke that sold the whole ME the box with a bit of wire in it is out of prison and ready to rock yet?
PRTVR said:
Surely the drone's are fly a predetermined route with GPS checks at intervals, no need for contact once launched ?
Perhaps the saudis need to invest in something like this?Didn't Iran use GPS spoofing to capture a US drone?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93U.S._RQ...
Fundoreen said:
some 'expert' was saying the rebels must be using some sort of giant towers the iranians have to amplify the drone signal and get the range. Sounds like rubbish as Iran is 1000s of miles away.
Thounsands of miles from the Uk but not Saudi. At it's closest it's less than 200 from Iran to SaudiTwin targets, precise, multiple drones, severe damage... something doesn’t add up to a low tech ‘rebel’ attack?
Are we talking winged remote operated drones? Surely a sophisticated national military backed option.
Or your propeller type devices? Even these you’d think were pretty sophisticated. Explosives with timed or impact detonators? Heavy payload so limited range, certainly not flown from Yemen. Moved closer to target?
I think it’s the multiple target and multiple drone element which makes it seem a bit more high tech. Or does this mark the start of fairly ‘low tech’ drones being weaponised effectively with big results.
The US certainly seem to think Iran is involved. How far can Iran push things?!
Are we talking winged remote operated drones? Surely a sophisticated national military backed option.
Or your propeller type devices? Even these you’d think were pretty sophisticated. Explosives with timed or impact detonators? Heavy payload so limited range, certainly not flown from Yemen. Moved closer to target?
I think it’s the multiple target and multiple drone element which makes it seem a bit more high tech. Or does this mark the start of fairly ‘low tech’ drones being weaponised effectively with big results.
The US certainly seem to think Iran is involved. How far can Iran push things?!
DS240 said:
Twin targets, precise, multiple drones, severe damage... something doesn’t add up to a low tech ‘rebel’ attack?
Are we talking winged remote operated drones? Surely a sophisticated national military backed option.
Or your propeller type devices? Even these you’d think were pretty sophisticated. Explosives with timed or impact detonators? Heavy payload so limited range, certainly not flown from Yemen. Moved closer to target?
I think it’s the multiple target and multiple drone element which makes it seem a bit more high tech. Or does this mark the start of fairly ‘low tech’ drones being weaponised effectively with big results.
The US certainly seem to think Iran is involved. How far can Iran push things?!
The Iranians have long been linked to the rebels, the drones that have been used on multiple attacks have been near identical to an Iranian manufactured drone:Are we talking winged remote operated drones? Surely a sophisticated national military backed option.
Or your propeller type devices? Even these you’d think were pretty sophisticated. Explosives with timed or impact detonators? Heavy payload so limited range, certainly not flown from Yemen. Moved closer to target?
I think it’s the multiple target and multiple drone element which makes it seem a bit more high tech. Or does this mark the start of fairly ‘low tech’ drones being weaponised effectively with big results.
The US certainly seem to think Iran is involved. How far can Iran push things?!
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https://m.jpost.com/Middle-East/Iran-media-celebra...
https://www.defensenews.com/global/mideast-africa/...
The rebels even released information on the drones they operate:
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/photos-hourhi...
Edited by ecsrobin on Sunday 15th September 06:27
The closest part of Yemen to these refinery's is 450 miles, these "drones" aren't being flown from the Yemen - The same drone with a human for scale
However there are bigger ones available but even these 3m by 5m wingspan drones done have the range required -
However there are bigger ones available but even these 3m by 5m wingspan drones done have the range required -
Edited by IanH755 on Sunday 15th September 07:21
Okay, so looking at those I’d class that as military hardware. Not a drone (like we see disrupting airports) carrying a payload.
I think Iran will be seen as a key part here rather than it being written off as the rebel actions.
The operation and successful strikes with these would still be a pretty organized and sophisticated military strike.
I think Iran will be seen as a key part here rather than it being written off as the rebel actions.
The operation and successful strikes with these would still be a pretty organized and sophisticated military strike.
DS240 said:
Okay, so looking at those I’d class that as military hardware. Not a drone (like we see disrupting airports) carrying a payload.
I think Iran will be seen as a key part here rather than it being written off as the rebel actions.
The operation and successful strikes with these would still be a pretty organized and sophisticated military strike.
The military consider them to be drones. I think Iran will be seen as a key part here rather than it being written off as the rebel actions.
The operation and successful strikes with these would still be a pretty organized and sophisticated military strike.
This has been going on for a few years so it’s not new but what do you do? Military action or sanctions is really your only options.
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