Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not! Vol 3

Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not! Vol 3

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Mobile Chicane

20,829 posts

212 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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MellowshipSlinky said:
Mobile Chicane said:
It is anecdotal, however based in reality. In surely the wealthiest county in the country such things should not exist but I can assure you they do.
I'm a chef in a Surrey Hills gastropub. We get kids from the local 'estate' in to do pot wash and I've seen what clothes they turn up in and how they wolf scraps from plates that come back.
There isn't food at home. I know teenagers can eat for England, but this is something else.
It truly saddens me. One lad is looking after his younger siblings as his Mum is always out working. As a care assistant in a local care home. £8.41 an hour.

Local rents for a two-bed house are typically £1,200 a month, plus bills, plus Council Tax. Local salaries £1,400 a month for a 40 hour week. Not hard to see how that doesn't cover outgoings....
I’m not buying that, just like I don’t buy McDonnell fighting seagulls for scraps of herring to survive.
It shocked me too. I hadn't realised how some kids live, because to be honest, I'm fairly insulated from it.



Thorodin

2,459 posts

133 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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She's cracking up. Arms outstretched, hands waving, and actually shouting at the whole panel STOP TALKING. Way out of her depth. Fear for mental health. Delusions of grandeur.

MellowshipSlinky

14,696 posts

189 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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Thorodin said:
She's cracking up. Arms outstretched, hands waving, and actually shouting at the whole panel STOP TALKING. Way out of her depth. Fear for mental health. Delusions of grandeur.
Quite embarrassing - she really is bloody awful.

(Except when she’s wearing her dominatrix kit... I would)

southendpier

5,261 posts

229 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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my brother is always skint.

Is that relative poverty?

Bonefish Blues

26,742 posts

223 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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MellowshipSlinky said:
Thorodin said:
She's cracking up. Arms outstretched, hands waving, and actually shouting at the whole panel STOP TALKING. Way out of her depth. Fear for mental health. Delusions of grandeur.
Quite embarrassing - she really is bloody awful.

(Except when she’s wearing her dominatrix kit... I would)
Gravitas-free zone, I'm sad to report frown

JagLover

42,416 posts

235 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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southendpier said:
my brother is always skint.

Is that relative poverty?
hehe

vladcjelli

2,968 posts

158 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Did I hear there’s a QT special on tonight? Only caught a bit of a mention on the radio.

Who’s on?

Brave Fart

5,727 posts

111 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Presenter Emma Barnett
Panellist Robert Jenrick
Panellist Angela Rayner
Panellist Jo Swinson
Panellist Humza Yousaf
Panellist Adam Price
Panellist Jonathan Bartley
Panellist Nigel Farage

I listen to 5 Live a lot, and Emma Barnett is ferocious. She interrupts too much for my liking, but takes no prisoners.
Meanwhile, Humza Yousaf is probably the most annoying panellist in the known universe.

Also, Under 30's edition.............why?

pingu393

7,798 posts

205 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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vladcjelli said:
Did I hear there’s a QT special on tonight? Only caught a bit of a mention on the radio.

Who’s on?
Under 30s

Pingu Bingo...

girls with very short hair
JRM lookalikes
shouty 18yo who display the experience of youth.
Within the first 10 minutes, someone will say that they were too young to vote last time.

Mort7

1,487 posts

108 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Brave Fart said:
Also, Under 30's edition.............why?
Because they feel entitled............?

I wonder if there'll be a QT for the over 50s?

Cantaloupe

1,056 posts

60 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Brave Fart said:



I listen to 5 Live a lot, and Emma Barnett is ferocious. She interrupts too much for my liking, but takes no prisoners.
Meanwhile, Humza Yousaf is probably the most annoying panellist in the known universe.

Also, Under 30's edition.............why?
Agree about Emma, she steps way over the line into arguing and point scoring rather than questioning.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Mort7 said:
Brave Fart said:
Also, Under 30's edition.............why?
Because they feel entitled............?

I wonder if there'll be a QT for the over 50s?
Because it's a way of giving it an edge
I genuinely and honestly feel there has been way way too much political leader debates, ask the politician type programmes
All this crap about televised debates between party leaders being traditional is crap its a relatively new thing
Going back to this under 30s thing its amusing that it's even on.

One last thing Boris Johnson not doing Andrew Neil. I know (well strongly believe) that its because he is worried about being torn apart by Andrew Neil. I like Andrew Neil - really like him.

But if more politicians just turn round and say no sorry not doing this show that show. I think it will be better
This time round its been pure overkill and its as much about Laura Kuenssberg, Kay Burley , Peston whoever than it is about the actual politician appearing

Thorodin

2,459 posts

133 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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You are right of course, I'm a fan of AN as well. However, his attack on BJ at the end of his last outing was grossly out of order. To take a full two minutes of expensive air time to lambast BJ because he chose not to be grilled just because AN thought he should is tantamount to the commentators becoming the masters and issuing orders. He went through a diatribe of the questions he, allegedly, had intended to ask him and sneered his way through it. Not on old chap, he doesn't need to display such animosity, I thought he was better than that.

Mort7

1,487 posts

108 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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techiedave said:
I genuinely and honestly feel there has been way way too much political leader debates, ask the politician type programmes
All this crap about televised debates between party leaders being traditional is crap its a relatively new thing

I agree. It's all a bit too.......... American, for want of a better word. Seems to be more about the TV station having achieved a scoop, and /or the presenter sticking it to the politicians. Bring back Robin Day.

Brave Fart

5,727 posts

111 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Thorodin said:
You are right of course, I'm a fan of AN as well. However, his attack on BJ at the end of his last outing was grossly out of order. To take a full two minutes of expensive air time to lambast BJ because he chose not to be grilled just because AN thought he should is tantamount to the commentators becoming the masters and issuing orders. He went through a diatribe of the questions he, allegedly, had intended to ask him and sneered his way through it. Not on old chap, he doesn't need to display such animosity, I thought he was better than that.
Ah, I thought I was the only one to feel that way. On here, Andrew Neil is revered and I can see his strengths as "Rotweiler" interviewer. But I agree that his mini-rant at the end of that last interview was out of order.

More generally, I get the feeling that some interviewers perceive this election as a career opportunity for themselves rather than the pursuit of truth.

Digger

14,675 posts

191 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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pingu393 said:
Under 30s

Pingu Bingo...

girls with very short hair
JRM lookalikes
shouty 18yo who display the experience of youth.
Within the first 10 minutes, someone will say that they were too young to vote last time.
I will give it 3 minutes . . . or less.

Thorodin

2,459 posts

133 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Brave Fart said:
Ah, I thought I was the only one to feel that way. On here, Andrew Neil is revered and I can see his strengths as "Rotweiler" interviewer. But I agree that his mini-rant at the end of that last interview was out of order.

More generally, I get the feeling that some interviewers perceive this election as a career opportunity for themselves rather than the pursuit of truth.
I agree, the old adage of the journalist not becoming the issue seems to have disappeared. Everybody wants to be famous. Politicians need to be subject to questioning, especially when dubious claims are being made but lately the objective is to destroy them by deliberate interruption before they can answer the question. Jo Malone today (BBC2), hectoring a Tory minister mid sentence and not letting him make his point before a barrage of very rude interruptions was a case in point. They seem to only be allowing the answer they want and when they fail to skewer the victim they lose their temper and become almost abusive. Forget the almost.

XCP

16,914 posts

228 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Maybe if politicians answered the question that they were asked it wouldn't ne necessary to interrupt them to try to keep them on track.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Thorodin said:
Brave Fart said:
Ah, I thought I was the only one to feel that way. On here, Andrew Neil is revered and I can see his strengths as "Rotweiler" interviewer. But I agree that his mini-rant at the end of that last interview was out of order.

More generally, I get the feeling that some interviewers perceive this election as a career opportunity for themselves rather than the pursuit of truth.
I agree, the old adage of the journalist not becoming the issue seems to have disappeared. Everybody wants to be famous. Politicians need to be subject to questioning, especially when dubious claims are being made but lately the objective is to destroy them by deliberate interruption before they can answer the question. Jo Malone today (BBC2), hectoring a Tory minister mid sentence and not letting him make his point before a barrage of very rude interruptions was a case in point. They seem to only be allowing the answer they want and when they fail to skewer the victim they lose their temper and become almost abusive. Forget the almost.
For me the woeful Brexitcast is evidence of this. My wife who is very easy going cannot stand some interviewers
Having said that we are both wary of journalists in general due to past personal issues with them several years ago.

I do just think its been political overkill this time round and that sometimes less is more

Thorodin

2,459 posts

133 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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I only watched that enema once Dave. Wonder what the collective noun might be. A Clash of Egos?