Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not! Vol 3

Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not! Vol 3

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simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Thursday 13th February 2020
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markyb_lcy said:
I can’t comment on that as I’ve never lived in Scotland, but I think it’s fair to say Scotland has no monopoly on stupidity.
hehe thanks

hidetheelephants

24,484 posts

194 months

Friday 14th February 2020
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The most sensible thing to get a mention tonight was Val's advocacy of decriminalisation of drugs; then she spoiled it by countering that bloke suggesting that investment in adventurous infrastructure would be a good idea by saying lots of people died building the Forth Bridge etc? Total non-sequitur.

Brave Fart

5,750 posts

112 months

Friday 14th February 2020
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Blimey, that was a poor edition. Not least because of the quality of the audience, virtually all of whom seemed, well, a bit dim.
Oh, and Joanna Cherry, words fail me. Continually making snide remarks and scoring points; awful.
Could QT not have a smaller, better informed audience? Can't be worse than the current format.

Cobnapint

8,636 posts

152 months

Friday 14th February 2020
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markyb_lcy said:
Tugenhardt is boring as hell but I’m finding him quite likeable.
He's a clever guy. I'd never really heard of him until he was on the AN Show.
Impressive performer.

Bonefish Blues

26,837 posts

224 months

Friday 14th February 2020
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Cobnapint said:
markyb_lcy said:
Tugenhardt is boring as hell but I’m finding him quite likeable.
He's a clever guy. I'd never really heard of him until he was on the AN Show.
Impressive performer.
Hugely calm and assured under fire on AN I thought.

kev1974

4,029 posts

130 months

Friday 14th February 2020
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Brave Fart said:
Blimey, that was a poor edition. Not least because of the quality of the audience, virtually all of whom seemed, well, a bit dim.
Oh, and Joanna Cherry, words fail me. Continually making snide remarks and scoring points; awful.
Could QT not have a smaller, better informed audience? Can't be worse than the current format.
The school teacher hosting it did explain at the start that the audience had been selected to be mostly SNP supporters!

Was probably an edition that could have been kept to BBC Scotland tbh

sparkythecat

7,905 posts

256 months

Friday 14th February 2020
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Brave Fart said:
Blimey, that was a poor edition. Not least because of the quality of the audience, virtually all of whom seemed, well, a bit dim.
Oh, and Joanna Cherry, words fail me. Continually making snide remarks and scoring points; awful.
Could QT not have a smaller, better informed audience? Can't be worse than the current format.
They were a bit subdued as they'd had their Buckie confiscated on the way in.

Thorodin

2,459 posts

134 months

Friday 14th February 2020
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There seems to be a massive disconnect between ordinary Scottish voters and the SNP about Indyref. Political exuberance is all very well and indeed even expected but every time the SNP faces the general public they are shouting each other down - much more than elsewhere. There seems to be nobody listening and everybody slagging each other off. I'm glad I don't live there, savages.

uk66fastback

16,574 posts

272 months

Friday 14th February 2020
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markyb_lcy said:
Well, if things carry on as they are then I fear we will see a Scoxit within the next 10 years.
We live in hope.

Bonefish Blues

26,837 posts

224 months

Friday 14th February 2020
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uk66fastback said:
markyb_lcy said:
Well, if things carry on as they are then I fear we will see a Scoxit within the next 10 years.
We live in hope.
The thought had passed my mind on more than one occasion, I must confess.

simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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anonymous said:
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Yes - good things always happen when countries gang up against minorities. Have you heard of “history”? wink

markyb_lcy

9,904 posts

63 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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anonymous said:
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Is that a serious suggestion that the UK as a whole would vote in a majority for Scotland to secede, or just a poor dig at Scottish people?

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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anonymous said:
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It’s just the usual PHs reactionary old bigots.

The U.K. wants independence from the EU and it’s a positive move for self determination but if Scotland mention it, they’re all anti English and should be voted out by brexiters. hehe

Graveworm

8,499 posts

72 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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anonymous said:
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If 8% of the people despite getting nearly 10 percent of the money, run a fiscal deficit 700-850 percent higher than the UK overall. and run a budget deficit when the UK is running a surplus - It is not hard to see why there may be widespread support for Scotland to go. The biggest concern is having neighbours, who are getting older and don't look after their health, who will keep popping around to borrow stuff and not be able to take care of themselves.

Edited by Graveworm on Saturday 15th February 11:20

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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anonymous said:
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He's a bigot, he just thinks his sort of bigotry is fine wink

Bonefish Blues

26,837 posts

224 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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Graveworm said:
anonymous said:
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If 8% of the people despite getting nearly 10 percent of the money, run a fiscal deficit 700-850 percent higher than the UK overall. and run a budget deficit when the UK is running a surplus - It is not hard to see why there may be widespread support for Scotland to go. The biggest concern is having neighbours, who are getting older and don't look after their health, who will keep popping around to borrow stuff and not be able to take care of themselves.

Edited by Graveworm on Saturday 15th February 11:20
Indeed. Be careful what you wish for, and all that...

markyb_lcy

9,904 posts

63 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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Graveworm said:
If 8% of the people despite getting nearly 10 percent of the money, run a fiscal deficit 700-850 percent higher than the UK overall. and run a budget deficit when the UK is running a surplus - It is not hard to see why there may be widespread support for Scotland to go. The biggest concern is having neighbours, who are getting older and don't look after their health, who will keep popping around to borrow stuff and not be able to take care of themselves.

Edited by Graveworm on Saturday 15th February 11:20
Indeed. Thankfully not everyone sees the future success of our sovereign nation in purely economic terms. Otherwise, London would become a sovereign city state, rejoin the EU and watch the rest of the “old” United Kingdom battle it out for the crumbs that are left rofl

There’s absolutely no way that a majority of people in the Uk or a majority of people in the UK-sans-Scotland, would vote for Scotland to leave the uk.

Then again, I guess we could call “pockets of support” widespread support. This isn’t the age of truth, is it? I mean, how many times have we been informed 52% is an “overwhelming majority”?

Edited by markyb_lcy on Saturday 15th February 13:39

Thorodin

2,459 posts

134 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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We haven't. It's been called a sufficient majority of around 4% (not 2%). If parliamentary seats can be decided and divided by 1 vote being sufficient.....

markyb_lcy

9,904 posts

63 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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Thorodin said:
We haven't. It's been called a sufficient majority of around 4% (not 2%). If parliamentary seats can be decided and divided by 1 vote being sufficient.....
I’ve not heard one single self-righteous brexiteer use such a moderate and reasonable term such as this in the whole 3+ years since.

It’s always “overwhelming majority” or “the will of 17.4 million people” (which sounds “better”).

I think most of us on PH are aware percentages are fractions of 100 and that 100-52 = 48 and therefore it’s a 4% margin, but thanks for making that clear to those that might not.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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markyb_lcy said:
Graveworm said:
If 8% of the people despite getting nearly 10 percent of the money, run a fiscal deficit 700-850 percent higher than the UK overall. and run a budget deficit when the UK is running a surplus - It is not hard to see why there may be widespread support for Scotland to go. The biggest concern is having neighbours, who are getting older and don't look after their health, who will keep popping around to borrow stuff and not be able to take care of themselves.

Edited by Graveworm on Saturday 15th February 11:20
Indeed. Thankfully not everyone sees the future success of our sovereign nation in purely economic terms. Otherwise, London would become a sovereign city state, rejoin the EU and watch the rest of the “old” United Kingdom battle it out for the crumbs that are left rofl

There’s absolutely no way that a majority of people in the Uk or a majority of people in the UK-sans-Scotland, would vote for Scotland to leave the uk.

Then again, I guess we could call “pockets of support” widespread support. This isn’t the age of truth, is it? I mean, how many times have we been informed 52% is an “overwhelming majority”?

Edited by markyb_lcy on Saturday 15th February 13:39
No harm in a confirmatory vote then? Put the issue to bed for long enough for me to retire.

That’s what Dave Cameron thought in 2015.

fluppin’ whooops.