45th President of the United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 7)

[Byker28i]

Aphex said:

Do you think it only works one way? You can always count on Byker's links to come from certain news outlets, do you think maybe that's because they pander to people that dislike Trump?

I post sources, which included fox news etc, if it's a story relevant to trump.
That includes trump supportive media and non-news related sites if it's relevant to the story, such as white supremacist sites supporting trump over his comments or even those supportive of his policies.

It's not just sources from media that dislikes trump, however theres many negative stories of trump because that what he generates. There's never been a president like him, prepared to break the laws so much, push the boundaries in pursuit of his own glorification and money.

Also, news outlets have journalistic standards such as truth to stick to, unlike some sources presented here.

But as said - I post sources so you can reference them, point out where they are wrong, provide other sources to contradict them, rather than just your opinion. Fill your boots..

[Byker28i]

Happy for you to point out where anything posted above either wasn't said or is wrong...

[Aphex]

Byker28i said:

Happy for you to point out where anything posted above either wasn't said or is wrong...

I have done so before and been told to leave the thread as it was too boring to read

[paulguitar]

Byker28i said:

But as said - I post sources so you can reference them, point out where they are wrong, provide other sources to contradict them, rather than just your opinion. Fill your boots..

Precisely. If anyone thinks a story posted here is a lie, let's discuss it.

trump's relentless bizarre incompetence and lying does make it hard to keep up, but it's possible and quite easy to do one's own fact-checking and necessary to have an opinion really, otherwise it's just pandering to trump and his constant referrals to anything less than positive about him being 'fake news', which is almost always isn't.

[paulguitar]

Aphex said:

Byker28i said:

Happy for you to point out where anything posted above either wasn't said or is wrong...

I have done so before and been told to leave the thread as it was too boring to read

Which story was that?

[_dobbo_]

Aphex said:

I have done so before and been told to leave the thread as it was too boring to read

Hang on, a couple of pages back you said you don't research any stories because you know it will all be lies "because MSM" - but now you're saying you have found proof that something Byker posted wasn't true and got asked to leave the thread?

[Aphex]

paulguitar said:

Which story was that?

I think it was a link to 20 or so reasons why Trump was a racist and a sexist? It was a little while ago now

I know there are some posters in here that will never agree with me as they have their minds made up but I still like to dip in here to see how those that are anti trump react to certain stories. Its pretty interesting. I have to go to youtube for pro trump comments. The most striking thing is how similar both sides are. Take the Epstein thing, there are conspiracy theorists on youtube that show the drone footage of the island, go into the symbolism and the child sacrifices etc etc and how Trump has brought him down. Then the 'other side' throws the same stories out with Trump at the forefront and involved with it

It's a bizarre time that we live in, at least its interesting though. Plus, the ones out there exploiting the situation for views are making ££££, perhaps we should all get involved

[Aphex]

_dobbo_ said:

Hang on, a couple of pages back you said you don't research any stories because you know it will all be lies "because MSM" - but now you're saying you have found proof that something Byker posted wasn't true and got asked to leave the thread?

Yep, he sent me the link and asked me to find the falsities within it. I did some low level research and came to a different conclusion to him. Unfortunately, it seems people that have been contributing to this thread alot were bored of going over the same conversations

[Amused2death]

If anyone is interested in Robert Mueller's appearance before the relevant people, the link below is one of many that will be running it live.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b_EuIJhgOk&fe...

[Byker28i]

Aphex said:

Yep, he sent me the link and asked me to find the falsities within it. I did some low level research and came to a different conclusion to him. Unfortunately, it seems people that have been contributing to this thread alot were bored of going over the same conversations

Did I? Sorry things move quickly so must have forgotten that. Have you a link to the old thread where this happened?

Happy for anyone to provide sources, although usually some get pointed out they are untrue, biased, unreliable sources and then those give up. Main stream media have laws to ensure they meet a journalistic quality, which many of the trump sources don't have to meet, those same sources that trump invited to a summit meeting to encourage them to keep up the good work as he enters the new election cycle.

Which incidently is something trump has been very good at. Embracing social media and all it's dark sides, encouraging those who publish untrue damaging stories, because there will always be those who believe in them and push them further.

[Escapegoat]

Aphex said:

I know there are some posters in here that will never agree with me as they have their minds made up but I still like to dip in here to see how those that are anti trump react to certain stories. Its pretty interesting. I have to go to youtube for pro trump comments. The most striking thing is how similar both sides are. Take the Epstein thing, there are conspiracy theorists on youtube that show the drone footage of the island, go into the symbolism and the child sacrifices etc etc and how Trump has brought him down. Then the 'other side' throws the same stories out with Trump at the forefront and involved with it

You're doing it again. You take the fruitloopiest bit of pro-trump conspiracy from Youtube comments and say that it is somehow equivalent to the facts of what Trump really said about Epstein, the social circles they ran around in together and the courtroom evidence (as yet untested, as we all know).

[Old Man Fred]

Byker28i said:

Snip

Also, news outlets have journalistic standards such as truth to stick to, unlike some sources presented here.

But as said - I post sources so you can reference them, point out where they are wrong, provide other sources to contradict them, rather than just your opinion. Fill your boots..

Aphex said:

I have to go to youtube for pro trump comments. <snip>, there are conspiracy theorists on youtube that show the drone footage of the island, go into the symbolism and the child sacrifices etc etc and how Trump has brought him down.

There may be a reason why you have to go to youtube for pro trump stories. Journalists newspapers etc have to do due diligence and cannot lie to the best of their knowledge, otherwise they get sued etc. Random people on Youtube dont have to answer to anyone and can make up anything.

This is conveniently explained by you talking about the conspiracy theorists on youtube and child sacrifices.

I am not trying to attack you personally, but if you have to look THAT hard for pro trump stories, maybe it is not because the whole of the MSM lies and the world is against him, maybe there just aren't that many stories about trump doing good things because they are so few and far between

[Aphex]

Byker28i said:

Did I? Sorry things move quickly so must have forgotten that. Have you a link to the old thread where this happened?

Happy for anyone to provide sources, although usually some get pointed out they are untrue, biased, unreliable sources and then those give up. Main stream media have laws to ensure they meet a journalistic quality, which many of the trump sources don't have to meet, those same sources that trump invited to a summit meeting to encourage them to keep up the good work as he enters the new election cycle.

Which incidently is something trump has been very good at. Embracing social media and all it's dark sides, encouraging those who publish untrue damaging stories, because there will always be those who believe in them and push them further.

Tell me about it, I was offline for a couple of days and the thread had jumped 5 of the big pages it must have been in the last Volume though

I'll see if I can find it before the thread explodes with Mueller discussions

[Gameface]

Aphex said:

I'll see if I can find it before the thread explodes with Mueller discussions

Is discussing Mueller a problem then?

[Aphex]

Gameface said:

Is discussing Mueller a problem then?

I wouldn't want to bore you of all people with a discussion we've had before whilst something new is developing

[paulguitar]

Aphex said:

I wouldn't want to bore you of all people with a discussion we've had before whilst something new is developing

I am sure we will have the capacity to discuss mueller and also review where you were asked to leave the thread.

[Aphex]

paulguitar said:

I am sure we will have the capacity to discuss mueller and also review where you were asked to leave the thread.

I don't mind that it happened, I'm sure recurring topics can be quite dull after such a long running set of threads

[pinchmeimdreamin]

Aphex said:

I'll see if I can find it before the thread explodes with Mueller discussions

I don’t think it will explode,

Mueller will go in and say exactly what Barr told him too.

[Tony33]

anonymous said:

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The bizarre thing is I take more effort checking a simple text message to the wife before hitting send. If I used to send out even a quick emergency notice as IT Manager to all users I would triple check them. I guess the world has changed where typos are becoming more acceptable but for someone in her position I still think it is unacceptably sloppy and the lack of attention to detail lowers the general perception of capability. Could be just me though.

[minimoog]

Aphex said:

Do you think it only works one way? You can always count on Byker's links to come from certain news outlets, do you think maybe that's because they pander to people that dislike Trump?

I think everyone in here needs to take a healthy dose of sceptisicm with what they read whether it bolsters their position or not.

Don't get me wrong, there will be truth in there but its covered in emotional hyperbole, on both sides. If you cant see that then maybe you're a bit too deep in it

I think there's a danger of assuming people don't know that what they're reading or watching has a bias and are swallowing a particular story uncritically.

In the case of Trump however it's incredibly easy to reach an fully informed unbiased opinion about the character of the man simply by listening to his words and observing his deeds.