45th President of the United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 7)
Discussion
Perhaps trump slagging off Bolton constantly then firing him wasn't trumps best idea?
The lawyers representing President Donald Trump’s former National Security Adviser John Bolton are in talks with the House committees conducting the impeachment inquiry, to discuss the possibility of Bolton giving a deposition
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/john-boltons-lawy...
The lawyers representing President Donald Trump’s former National Security Adviser John Bolton are in talks with the House committees conducting the impeachment inquiry, to discuss the possibility of Bolton giving a deposition
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/john-boltons-lawy...
President Trump and his allies have billed his speech at a historically black college here on Friday afternoon as a chance to step outside the friendly confines of his supporter base and pitch his administration’s actions on criminal justice reform and black employment directly to a black audience.
But in the invitation-only room of about 300 people, only about 10 students will be admitted from Benedict College, which is hosting the event, said Mayor Stephen K. Benjamin of Columbia. More than half of the seats were reserved for guests and allies of the administration, organizers said.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/25/us/politics/tru...
But in the invitation-only room of about 300 people, only about 10 students will be admitted from Benedict College, which is hosting the event, said Mayor Stephen K. Benjamin of Columbia. More than half of the seats were reserved for guests and allies of the administration, organizers said.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/25/us/politics/tru...
walm said:
Your argument was that Trump is a result (in part) of widening wealth inequality and that he has done things to stop that so people who voted for him can feel that their vote was justified and correct.
Sadly that chart shows wealth inequality WIDENING - quite clearly.
Which again means that anyone less well off voting for Trump has voted against their own best interests if their interests are in reducing the wealth gap.
Now sure, they are $56 better off per annum. But WHERE IS THE MONEY COMING FROM?
Oh yes - debt.
That EVERYONE has to pay for.
It would be like an employer saying to the blue collar staff that they are getting a $1 a week raise while the white collar guys get $200 - FOR A YEAR.
And in the following year everyone has their salary cut by $100.
Brilliant.
Sadly that chart shows wealth inequality WIDENING - quite clearly.
Which again means that anyone less well off voting for Trump has voted against their own best interests if their interests are in reducing the wealth gap.
Now sure, they are $56 better off per annum. But WHERE IS THE MONEY COMING FROM?
Oh yes - debt.
That EVERYONE has to pay for.
It would be like an employer saying to the blue collar staff that they are getting a $1 a week raise while the white collar guys get $200 - FOR A YEAR.
And in the following year everyone has their salary cut by $100.
Brilliant.
greygoose said:
hidetheelephants said:
.4% of $14k is $56; their cup overfloweth.
1.2% of $36k is $432; less than $10 a week extra isn't going to make them feel like winners.
1.6% of $65k is $1040; $20 a week makes the groceries or filling up the car a bit easier, but still not keeping up with the K-people.
1.9% of $114k is $2166; $40 a week, not to be sniffed at, then again if you're in this bracket and $40 means the difference between Micawbian happiness and misery the problem isn't the government taking too much of your wedge.
2.9% of $348k; $200 a week, haud me back Jay Gatsby!
Quite why the unwashed deserve a bung one eighth of the size given to the 1%ers is unclear; the rich get richer, the poor get very slightly less poor isn't an election winner as slogans go, but then the US is an odd place in many ways.
If I were cynical I would suspect the poor are less likely to vote (or not allowed to in some cases).1.2% of $36k is $432; less than $10 a week extra isn't going to make them feel like winners.
1.6% of $65k is $1040; $20 a week makes the groceries or filling up the car a bit easier, but still not keeping up with the K-people.
1.9% of $114k is $2166; $40 a week, not to be sniffed at, then again if you're in this bracket and $40 means the difference between Micawbian happiness and misery the problem isn't the government taking too much of your wedge.
2.9% of $348k; $200 a week, haud me back Jay Gatsby!
Quite why the unwashed deserve a bung one eighth of the size given to the 1%ers is unclear; the rich get richer, the poor get very slightly less poor isn't an election winner as slogans go, but then the US is an odd place in many ways.
It's a long video, but a better explanation of the overall issues are this (in my view):
https://youtu.be/KGuaoARJYU0?t=213
Bit of a slower start, but covers more details later on in an easy to understand way.
Alternatively you can just view randomly growing racism and stupid people growing across the western world as a coincidence, and Trump as a short term blip who will soon be fixed and him sent to prison.
And it's ridiculous that Barr is investigating an investigation. So now in the future we'll need an investigation into him for his clear bias, for investigating the inquiry.
Gameface said:
I don't go much for psychology etc... Where I come from a 
is .
And he's been allowed to act like one since he was born by virtue of his birthright.
Very much agree. Only reason he can act like he has is a massive power imbalance. If he was a normal person he'd be called a dick and crash and burn very quickly. is . And he's been allowed to act like one since he was born by virtue of his birthright.
justice. said:
Elijah Cummings’ wife delivering one of the best send offs I’ve ever seen in my life. Actually choked up on her final sentence.
For all the status Trump yearns for, when he is gone he will never be held in any esteem.
Not that he’d realise it.
One of the Pallbearers refused to shake McConnells handFor all the status Trump yearns for, when he is gone he will never be held in any esteem.
Not that he’d realise it.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2019/oct...
No wonder trump is said to be getting frustrated.
...at least three current and former U.S. officials have all made the same startling admission: a coveted White House visit for the new Ukrainian leader had been explicitly conditioned on his agreeing to investigations that could have helped President Donald Trump’s re-election.
But in some 65 hours of testimony — details of which have been previously reported — along with public comments from Trump, his aides and allies, a portrait is emerging of a quid pro quo that evolved over time, with the president progressively upping the ante when his demands were not met.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment...
...at least three current and former U.S. officials have all made the same startling admission: a coveted White House visit for the new Ukrainian leader had been explicitly conditioned on his agreeing to investigations that could have helped President Donald Trump’s re-election.
But in some 65 hours of testimony — details of which have been previously reported — along with public comments from Trump, his aides and allies, a portrait is emerging of a quid pro quo that evolved over time, with the president progressively upping the ante when his demands were not met.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment...
trump is trying to block other witnesses, realising how bad it's going, so much so a key witness has filed a lawsuit Friday asking a federal judge to rule on whether he can testify,
House Democrats had subpoenaed the witness, Charles M. Kupperman, who served as Mr. Trump’s deputy national security adviser, to testify on Monday. But in an effort to stop Mr. Kupperman from doing so, the White House said on Friday that the president had invoked “constitutional immunity,” leaving Mr. Kupperman uncertain about what to do.
The implications of the suit, filed in federal court in Washington, extend beyond Mr. Kupperman. His lawyer, Charles J. Cooper, also represents Mr. Bolton and is likely to address congressional requests for his testimony in a similar fashion. House Democrats have had discussions with Mr. Cooper in recent days about Mr. Bolton testifying but have not subpoenaed him.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/25/us/politics/kup...
Edit: see below. As a judge has now ruled that the impeachment inquiry is legally valid, this will open the flood gates and stop trump trying to block anyone else (including Bolton). Hell hath no fury like a Bolton scorned?
House Democrats had subpoenaed the witness, Charles M. Kupperman, who served as Mr. Trump’s deputy national security adviser, to testify on Monday. But in an effort to stop Mr. Kupperman from doing so, the White House said on Friday that the president had invoked “constitutional immunity,” leaving Mr. Kupperman uncertain about what to do.
The implications of the suit, filed in federal court in Washington, extend beyond Mr. Kupperman. His lawyer, Charles J. Cooper, also represents Mr. Bolton and is likely to address congressional requests for his testimony in a similar fashion. House Democrats have had discussions with Mr. Cooper in recent days about Mr. Bolton testifying but have not subpoenaed him.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/25/us/politics/kup...
Edit: see below. As a judge has now ruled that the impeachment inquiry is legally valid, this will open the flood gates and stop trump trying to block anyone else (including Bolton). Hell hath no fury like a Bolton scorned?
Edited by Byker28i on Saturday 26th October 08:13
Another court loss for trump and the GOP,the House Dems get all unredacted Mueller report, evidence etc that Barr has tried to withhold from being seen.
A federal judge on Friday ruled that the Justice Department must turn over former special counsel Robert Mueller's grand jury evidence to the House Judiciary Committee, a groundbreaking victory for Democrats in their effort to investigate whether President Donald Trump should be impeached for obstructing the long-running Russia probe.
In a double victory for Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Judge Beryl Howell — the chief federal judge in Washington — ruled that the impeachment inquiry Democrats have launched is valid even though the House hasn't taken a formal vote on it. The decision rejects arguments by DOJ and congressional Republicans that a formal vote is necessary to launch impeachment proceedings.
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/25/judge-rul...
Here's the order: https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.d...
Here's the opinion: https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.d...
This is a judge who has read the report, who says:
The Special Counsel concluded that “[t]he Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion,”“principally through two operations.”Id.at I-1.
First, a Russian entity carried out a social media campaign that favored presidential candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaged presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.
Second, a Russian intelligence service conducted computer-intrusion operations against entities, employees, and volunteers working on the Clinton Campaign and then released stolen documents.” Id.Russia hacked and stole “hundreds of thousands of documents, id.at I-4,from the Democratic National Committee, the Democratic Campaign Committee, and the Clinton Campaign, and then disseminated those documents through fictitious online personas and through the website WikiLeaks in order to influence the outcome of the 2016 presidential election.
According to the Special Counsel,the [Trump] Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, and the links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign were numerous.
among other things, the Special Counsel determined that during the campaign Manafort—through Rick Gates, his deputy on the Campaign—periodically sent internal Trump Campaign polling data to Konstantin Kilimnik, Manafort’s long-time business associate in Ukraine with alleged ties to Russian intelligence, with the expectation that Kilimnik would share that information with others in Ukraine.
The Mueller Report further recounts evidence suggesting that then-candidate Trump may have received advance information about Russia’s interference activities...
The public version of Volume I contains over 240 redactions on the basis of grand jury secrecy.3Theseredactions occur in parts of the Mueller Report that include discussion of the Trump Tower Meeting, then-candidate Trump’s discussion with associates about releases of hacked documents, and Manafort’s contacts with Kilimnik
I mean - that's pretty damming and shows just how much Barr has been trying to cover this up for trump
A federal judge on Friday ruled that the Justice Department must turn over former special counsel Robert Mueller's grand jury evidence to the House Judiciary Committee, a groundbreaking victory for Democrats in their effort to investigate whether President Donald Trump should be impeached for obstructing the long-running Russia probe.
In a double victory for Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Judge Beryl Howell — the chief federal judge in Washington — ruled that the impeachment inquiry Democrats have launched is valid even though the House hasn't taken a formal vote on it. The decision rejects arguments by DOJ and congressional Republicans that a formal vote is necessary to launch impeachment proceedings.
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/25/judge-rul...
Here's the order: https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.d...
Here's the opinion: https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.d...
This is a judge who has read the report, who says:
The Special Counsel concluded that “[t]he Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion,”“principally through two operations.”Id.at I-1.
First, a Russian entity carried out a social media campaign that favored presidential candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaged presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.
Second, a Russian intelligence service conducted computer-intrusion operations against entities, employees, and volunteers working on the Clinton Campaign and then released stolen documents.” Id.Russia hacked and stole “hundreds of thousands of documents, id.at I-4,from the Democratic National Committee, the Democratic Campaign Committee, and the Clinton Campaign, and then disseminated those documents through fictitious online personas and through the website WikiLeaks in order to influence the outcome of the 2016 presidential election.
According to the Special Counsel,the [Trump] Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, and the links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign were numerous.
among other things, the Special Counsel determined that during the campaign Manafort—through Rick Gates, his deputy on the Campaign—periodically sent internal Trump Campaign polling data to Konstantin Kilimnik, Manafort’s long-time business associate in Ukraine with alleged ties to Russian intelligence, with the expectation that Kilimnik would share that information with others in Ukraine.
The Mueller Report further recounts evidence suggesting that then-candidate Trump may have received advance information about Russia’s interference activities...
The public version of Volume I contains over 240 redactions on the basis of grand jury secrecy.3Theseredactions occur in parts of the Mueller Report that include discussion of the Trump Tower Meeting, then-candidate Trump’s discussion with associates about releases of hacked documents, and Manafort’s contacts with Kilimnik
I mean - that's pretty damming and shows just how much Barr has been trying to cover this up for trump
In another blow, the judge also said::
Given the role of the Special Counsel as an attorney in the Department of Justice and the framework of the Special Counsel regulations, the Special Counsel accepted the DOJ Office of Legal Counsel’s (“OLC”) legal conclusion that the indictment or criminal prosecution of a sitting President would impermissibly undermine the capacity of the executive branch to perform its constitutionally assigned functions’ in violation of the constitutional separation of powers. Id.at II-1 (citation omitted) (quoting OLC Op. atCase 1:19-gj-00048-BAH Document 46 Filed 10/25/19 Page 12 of 75 13222, 260).
This OLC legal conclusion has never been adopted, sanctioned,or in any way approved by a court.
i.e. it's not legal what Barr told Mueller...
There's quite a lot about how Barr/DOJ tried to apply rulings blocking and redactions from being seen, which have been conclusively dismantled.
Judge Howell took particular issue with a sharply worded letter sent by White House counsel Pat Cipollone on Oct. 8 to House Democrats declaring their intent to block any cooperation by White House officials with the ongoing impeachment inquiry.
“These arguments smack of farce. The reality is that DOJ and the White House have been openly stonewalling the House’s efforts to get information by subpoena and by agreement, and the White House has flatly stated that the Administration will not cooperate with congressional requests for information," Howell argued. "The White House’s stated policy of non-cooperation with the impeachment inquiry weighs heavily in favor of disclosure.”
Given the role of the Special Counsel as an attorney in the Department of Justice and the framework of the Special Counsel regulations, the Special Counsel accepted the DOJ Office of Legal Counsel’s (“OLC”) legal conclusion that the indictment or criminal prosecution of a sitting President would impermissibly undermine the capacity of the executive branch to perform its constitutionally assigned functions’ in violation of the constitutional separation of powers. Id.at II-1 (citation omitted) (quoting OLC Op. atCase 1:19-gj-00048-BAH Document 46 Filed 10/25/19 Page 12 of 75 13222, 260).
This OLC legal conclusion has never been adopted, sanctioned,or in any way approved by a court.
i.e. it's not legal what Barr told Mueller...
There's quite a lot about how Barr/DOJ tried to apply rulings blocking and redactions from being seen, which have been conclusively dismantled.
Judge Howell took particular issue with a sharply worded letter sent by White House counsel Pat Cipollone on Oct. 8 to House Democrats declaring their intent to block any cooperation by White House officials with the ongoing impeachment inquiry.
“These arguments smack of farce. The reality is that DOJ and the White House have been openly stonewalling the House’s efforts to get information by subpoena and by agreement, and the White House has flatly stated that the Administration will not cooperate with congressional requests for information," Howell argued. "The White House’s stated policy of non-cooperation with the impeachment inquiry weighs heavily in favor of disclosure.”
Rudy, Rudy, Rudy....only the best people...
Rudy Giuliani pocket dialed an NBC News reporter twice, leaving long voicemail messages in which he's heard discussing Joe Biden, business in Bahrain and his need for cash. It's quite revealing
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/rud...
trump pulls the troops out of Syria, benefitting turkey (and Putin) then seventy-two hours later, Trump’s personal lawyer is talking about getting his hands on hundreds of thousands of dollars from a guy named Robert who just happened to be in Turkey at the time.
Just a coincidence or another coincidence that it comes at a time trump may be short of funds and may be selling off his profitable DC hotel?
Rudy Giuliani pocket dialed an NBC News reporter twice, leaving long voicemail messages in which he's heard discussing Joe Biden, business in Bahrain and his need for cash. It's quite revealing
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/rud...
trump pulls the troops out of Syria, benefitting turkey (and Putin) then seventy-two hours later, Trump’s personal lawyer is talking about getting his hands on hundreds of thousands of dollars from a guy named Robert who just happened to be in Turkey at the time.
Just a coincidence or another coincidence that it comes at a time trump may be short of funds and may be selling off his profitable DC hotel?
Edited by Byker28i on Saturday 26th October 08:10
Rudy is so deep into this and screwed that he's going to jail... So say former federal prosecutors Barbara McQuade and Joyce Vance.
While the Department of Justice’s Office of Legal Counsel has issued legal opinions that a sitting president cannot be indicted, there is no similar prohibition on indicting a president’s personal lawyer or other potential co-conspirators involved in committing a federal crime. Based on facts already in the public record, we believe that Rudolph Giuliani could be indicted now for conspiracy to interfere with the fair administration of elections, conspiracy to commit bribery, and contempt of Congress. Below is what an indictment of Giuliani might look like if it were drafted today.
https://www.justsecurity.org/66705/united-states-o...
They complete a mock indictment but point out:
Two final thoughts about the form of the mock indictment that follows.
If this were an actual indictment, many of the names would be replaced with generic identifiers, such as Candidate-1 or Company-A. The Justice Department requires this practice to protect the reputations of individuals and entities that are not charged with any crimes. A jury is told the identities of these individuals and entities at trial. We have left the names in the indictment, however, for clarity for readers. We refer to President Donald Trump as Individual-1, an unindicted co-conspirator.
At paragraph 2, we describe Giuliani as an agent as well as an attorney for Individual-1 to make it clear that not all of their communications will be protected by the attorney-client privilege. This privilege is limited to communications between a lawyer and client for the purposes of obtaining legal advice, and does not protect communications regarding an ongoing scheme to commit a crime or fraud. Nor does it protect communications that have been divulged to others.
While the Department of Justice’s Office of Legal Counsel has issued legal opinions that a sitting president cannot be indicted, there is no similar prohibition on indicting a president’s personal lawyer or other potential co-conspirators involved in committing a federal crime. Based on facts already in the public record, we believe that Rudolph Giuliani could be indicted now for conspiracy to interfere with the fair administration of elections, conspiracy to commit bribery, and contempt of Congress. Below is what an indictment of Giuliani might look like if it were drafted today.
https://www.justsecurity.org/66705/united-states-o...
They complete a mock indictment but point out:
Two final thoughts about the form of the mock indictment that follows.
If this were an actual indictment, many of the names would be replaced with generic identifiers, such as Candidate-1 or Company-A. The Justice Department requires this practice to protect the reputations of individuals and entities that are not charged with any crimes. A jury is told the identities of these individuals and entities at trial. We have left the names in the indictment, however, for clarity for readers. We refer to President Donald Trump as Individual-1, an unindicted co-conspirator.
At paragraph 2, we describe Giuliani as an agent as well as an attorney for Individual-1 to make it clear that not all of their communications will be protected by the attorney-client privilege. This privilege is limited to communications between a lawyer and client for the purposes of obtaining legal advice, and does not protect communications regarding an ongoing scheme to commit a crime or fraud. Nor does it protect communications that have been divulged to others.
Oh dear, it's not looking good for Giuliani...
Federal prosecutors in New York have subpoenaed the brother of one of the recently indicted associates of Rudy Giuliani, according to two people familiar with the matter, as they escalate their investigation in the campaign-finance case.
The subpoena to Steven Fruman is the latest indication of prosecutors' actions since the rushed arrest two weeks ago of his brother, Igor Fruman, and another defendant, Lev Parnas, at a Washington-area airport. Since then, investigators have doled out multiple subpoenas and conducted several property searches, in one case blowing the door off a safe to access the contents,
Federal prosecutors told a judge this week that they are sifting through data from more than 50 bank accounts. In addition, they've put a filter team in place as they examine communications obtained via search warrant and subpoena, sensitive to material that could be subject to attorney-client privilege because Giuliani, President Donald Trump's personal attorney, counted Parnas as a client. A filter team is a separate set of prosecutors who are assigned to examine evidence and set aside material that is privileged.
Federal prosecutors in New York have subpoenaed the brother of one of the recently indicted associates of Rudy Giuliani, according to two people familiar with the matter, as they escalate their investigation in the campaign-finance case.
The subpoena to Steven Fruman is the latest indication of prosecutors' actions since the rushed arrest two weeks ago of his brother, Igor Fruman, and another defendant, Lev Parnas, at a Washington-area airport. Since then, investigators have doled out multiple subpoenas and conducted several property searches, in one case blowing the door off a safe to access the contents,
Federal prosecutors told a judge this week that they are sifting through data from more than 50 bank accounts. In addition, they've put a filter team in place as they examine communications obtained via search warrant and subpoena, sensitive to material that could be subject to attorney-client privilege because Giuliani, President Donald Trump's personal attorney, counted Parnas as a client. A filter team is a separate set of prosecutors who are assigned to examine evidence and set aside material that is privileged.
Team trump still fighting to stop McGahn testifying about trumps obstruction, want McGahn to testify in private not public, whilst complaining about the house impeachment inquiry testifying in private!
The hypocracy.
House attorneys have argued that they're at an impasse with the Justice Department over obtaining McGahn's testimony, which they have been seeking since special counsel Robert Mueller revealed in April that he was a central witness to potential obstruction of justice by President Donald Trump. McGahn refused to comply with a subpoena for his testimony in May and the Judiciary Committee filed suit in July, declaring that his testimony is crucial to determine whether the House should file articles of impeachment against Trump. Since then, sporadic talks with the Justice Department have reached no conclusion
among the sticking points: House Democrats have long wanted McGahn to testify publicly, while the White House has proposed a closed-door interview.
https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2019/10/25/don-m...
The hypocracy.
House attorneys have argued that they're at an impasse with the Justice Department over obtaining McGahn's testimony, which they have been seeking since special counsel Robert Mueller revealed in April that he was a central witness to potential obstruction of justice by President Donald Trump. McGahn refused to comply with a subpoena for his testimony in May and the Judiciary Committee filed suit in July, declaring that his testimony is crucial to determine whether the House should file articles of impeachment against Trump. Since then, sporadic talks with the Justice Department have reached no conclusion
among the sticking points: House Democrats have long wanted McGahn to testify publicly, while the White House has proposed a closed-door interview.
https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2019/10/25/don-m...
Byker28i said:
Rudy, Rudy, Rudy....only the best people...
Rudy Giuliani pocket dialed an NBC News reporter twice, leaving long voicemail messages in which he's heard discussing Joe Biden, business in Bahrain and his need for cash. It's quite revealing
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/rud...
trump pulls the troops out of Syria, benefitting turkey (and Putin) then seventy-two hours later, Trump’s personal lawyer is talking about getting his hands on hundreds of thousands of dollars from a guy named Robert who just happened to be in Turkey at the time.
Just a coincidence or another coincidence that it comes at a time trump may be short of funds and may be selling off his profitable DC hotel?
Is it really possible hes that stupid or that careless? I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but doing that twice seems, frankly, incredible!Rudy Giuliani pocket dialed an NBC News reporter twice, leaving long voicemail messages in which he's heard discussing Joe Biden, business in Bahrain and his need for cash. It's quite revealing
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/rud...
trump pulls the troops out of Syria, benefitting turkey (and Putin) then seventy-two hours later, Trump’s personal lawyer is talking about getting his hands on hundreds of thousands of dollars from a guy named Robert who just happened to be in Turkey at the time.
Just a coincidence or another coincidence that it comes at a time trump may be short of funds and may be selling off his profitable DC hotel?
Edited by Byker28i on Saturday 26th October 08:10
(although "incredible" is often actually normal...)
Max_Torque said:
Is it really possible hes that stupid or that careless? I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but doing that twice seems, frankly, incredible!
(although "incredible" is often actually normal...)
Whilst we are dealing with genuinely evil people in this Whitehouse, these kinds of incidents do give them a certain type of Laurel and Hardy style amusement.(although "incredible" is often actually normal...)
Max_Torque said:
Byker28i said:
Rudy, Rudy, Rudy....only the best people...
Rudy Giuliani pocket dialed an NBC News reporter twice, leaving long voicemail messages in which he's heard discussing Joe Biden, business in Bahrain and his need for cash. It's quite revealing
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/rud...
trump pulls the troops out of Syria, benefitting turkey (and Putin) then seventy-two hours later, Trump’s personal lawyer is talking about getting his hands on hundreds of thousands of dollars from a guy named Robert who just happened to be in Turkey at the time.
Just a coincidence or another coincidence that it comes at a time trump may be short of funds and may be selling off his profitable DC hotel?
Is it really possible hes that stupid or that careless? I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but doing that twice seems, frankly, incredible!Rudy Giuliani pocket dialed an NBC News reporter twice, leaving long voicemail messages in which he's heard discussing Joe Biden, business in Bahrain and his need for cash. It's quite revealing
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/rud...
trump pulls the troops out of Syria, benefitting turkey (and Putin) then seventy-two hours later, Trump’s personal lawyer is talking about getting his hands on hundreds of thousands of dollars from a guy named Robert who just happened to be in Turkey at the time.
Just a coincidence or another coincidence that it comes at a time trump may be short of funds and may be selling off his profitable DC hotel?
Edited by Byker28i on Saturday 26th October 08:10
(although "incredible" is often actually normal...)
Once installed on a target phone the user would be unaware that it's there.
Send a text message to the compromised phone with a 'hash' code and a telephone number, the compromised phone will secretly dial out to that number.
Stalkerware does much more than just make secret calls
https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/what-is-stalkerware/
Just incompetance - seems Giuliani makes a habit of it... from 2018
I’ve been the victim of more than six minutes worth of white noise butt-dial voicemails over the last 24 hours from both Rudy Giuliani and Lanny Davis. That’s a reporter’s life in 2018 in a nutshell.
https://twitter.com/dsamuelsohn/status/10226380889...
I’ve been the victim of more than six minutes worth of white noise butt-dial voicemails over the last 24 hours from both Rudy Giuliani and Lanny Davis. That’s a reporter’s life in 2018 in a nutshell.
https://twitter.com/dsamuelsohn/status/10226380889...
"Russians never surrender," Butina told reporters. In a subsequent interview with RT, Butina said: "What happened to me definitely shows that America is losing its justice system."
Now shes back in Russia the spin has started.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/maria-butina-russian-...
Now shes back in Russia the spin has started.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/maria-butina-russian-...
"Stop your messing around (ah-ah-ah)
Better think of your future (ah-ah-ah)
Time you straighten right out (ah-ah-ah)
Creating problems in town (ah-ah-ah)
Rudy
A message to you, Rudy
A message to you
Stop your fooling around (ah-ah-ah)
Time you straighten right out (ah-ah-ah)
Better think of your future (ah-ah-ah)
Else you'll wind up in jail (ah-ah-ah)
A message to you, Rudy."
Better think of your future (ah-ah-ah)
Time you straighten right out (ah-ah-ah)
Creating problems in town (ah-ah-ah)
Rudy
A message to you, Rudy
A message to you
Stop your fooling around (ah-ah-ah)
Time you straighten right out (ah-ah-ah)
Better think of your future (ah-ah-ah)
Else you'll wind up in jail (ah-ah-ah)
A message to you, Rudy."
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