45th President of the United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 7)

[Byker28i]

I have great hearing, the best hearing - you can't hear a phone call...


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I have been watching people making phone calls my entire life. My hearing is, and has been, great. Never have I been watching a person making a call, which was not on speakerphone, and been able to hear or understand a conversation. I’ve even tried, but to no avail. Try it live!

6:27 AM - 21 Nov 2019



Olivia Nuzzi
@Olivianuzzi

The idea that you wouldn’t be able to overhear the president through the phone is hilarious to me and, I’m sure, to most people who know Trump. I’ve had phone conversations with West Wing officials interrupted by the sound of Trump’s voice coming from another room.

[Tallow]

MX5Biologist said:

But having worked in the US, I can say there is an invisible pressure to adopt US vernacular. Brits over there for a while tend to switch on or off the accent when home, or in conversation with fellow countrymen.

Slightly OT but I get where you're coming from. I think that for the most part though this tends to be turn of phrase and intonation to a certain extent. Things can be a tad laboured if, as a Brit, you persist in using British terminology and sooner or later people will tire of it. I think that's one's responsibility in terms of working to integrate into the society one has chosen to live in though.

I doubt I'll ever lose my accent and it never ceases to be a point of interest to Americans when they first meet me, but this seems to be a much more frequent occurrence socially than profressionally. In fact I had a conversation with a consultant we're thinking of using this week that went along the lines of:

"Are you British?"
"Yes"
"Oh, OK"

Which, I have to say is preferable to the near daily experience of people I know socially attempting to do terrible British accents whilst grinning inanely at me.

Anyway, speaking as someone from a working class background who was reasonably professionally successful before expatriating, I'd be inclined to agree with Dr Hill that opportunities are greater here and that there's less likelihood of people really caring what your background is because in most American's minds anyone from the UK is fairly fancy.

Sorry for the detour, back to Trump now.

[Byker28i]

Interesting testimony from David Holmes
Holmes keeps saying Sondland said “Biden” investigation, when Sondland insisted he never connected Burisma to Biden.

He also said that in his foreign service career he'd never seen an ambassador make an unsecured phone call to the president of the United States in a crowded place.

[walm]

MX5Biologist said:

She is basically an academic, and there is no way in the UK, in the last 30-40 years, accent would have held anyone back in the academic, or indeed, public service world.

I think you are smoking crack.
Civil service fast track was completely PACKED with Public School bods when I looked at it in the early 00s.
She specifically referenced 1980s - when it would have been FAR worse.

GCHQ and the Foreign Office focused strongly on Oxbridge, London and the red brick unis which are famous for offering places to state educated northerners... oh wait!

[Gameface]

Byker28i said:

Gameface said:

Gameface said:

Did the call take place on Air Force One?

Byker do you know the answer to this?

Ukraine calls

The White House released Friday the rough transcript of the April 21 call between President Trump and Volodymyr Zelenskiy, the then-newly elected Ukrainian leader.

The 16-minute call was conducted from Air Force One and came three months before the July 25 conversation between the two men that prompted the impeachment inquiry into Trump.
https://www.npr.org/2019/11/15/779667256/read-pres...

Note:that was a call as he returned from Mar-a-Lago

The second call, 25th July, that sparked the whistleblowers account was from the white house, hence everyone listening in.


The notepad with the writing in black bold marker: "I want nothing I want nothing I want no quid pro quo. Tell Zellinsky to do the right thing. This is the final word from the Pres of the U.S." was written on "Aboard Air Force One" notepad letterhead.
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-notes-impeachment-z...

Your last paragraph is why is asked the question.

Thanks for the answer.

[LarryUSA]

Tallow said:

MX5Biologist said:

But having worked in the US, I can say there is an invisible pressure to adopt US vernacular. Brits over there for a while tend to switch on or off the accent when home, or in conversation with fellow countrymen.

Slightly OT but I get where you're coming from. I think that for the most part though this tends to be turn of phrase and intonation to a certain extent. Things can be a tad laboured if, as a Brit, you persist in using British terminology and sooner or later people will tire of it. I think that's one's responsibility in terms of working to integrate into the society one has chosen to live in though.

I doubt I'll ever lose my accent and it never ceases to be a point of interest to Americans when they first meet me, but this seems to be a much more frequent occurrence socially than profressionally. In fact I had a conversation with a consultant we're thinking of using this week that went along the lines of:

"Are you British?"
"Yes"
"Oh, OK"

Which, I have to say is preferable to the near daily experience of people I know socially attempting to do terrible British accents whilst grinning inanely at me.

Anyway, speaking as someone from a working class background who was reasonably professionally successful before expatriating, I'd be inclined to agree with Dr Hill that opportunities are greater here and that there's less likelihood of people really caring what your background is because in most American's minds anyone from the UK is fairly fancy.

Sorry for the detour, back to Trump now.

We've been here 6 years and neither of us have lost any accent at all. However, as you say, you have to use American words like 'trash' instead of 'rubbish' else it gets tiresome or they think it quaint.

However, I call Home Depot 'Home Deepoh' as they do (actually, more often than not Homebase out of habit!) but my wife insists on calling it Home Dehpot.

[RobDickinson]

Byker28i said:

I have great hearing, the best hearing - you can't hear a phone call...


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I have been watching people making phone calls my entire life. My hearing is, and has been, great. Never have I been watching a person making a call, which was not on speakerphone, and been able to hear or understand a conversation. I’ve even tried, but to no avail. Try it live!

6:27 AM - 21 Nov 2019

Honestly classic person going deaf thing, they cant hear themselves quite so well so 'speak up' and still think they re talking quietly.

You compare him to 20 years ago its a different person.

[MagnaJeep]

Being a long time lurker I must thank Byker for funneling all news concerning
Trump into this thread. Top man. It makes it very easy to be up to date if you want to cringe, or
inform yourself about Trumps most recent shenanigans.

I didn't really found the need to comment in the past, but what is going on
with Nunes? He is even more annoying than Trump. Why is he starting ever single sentence with a combination of the words: 2016, Burisma, Hunter Biden and Steele dossier even if it is completely unrelated
to the question he is trying to pose? It isn't even a a smart or sneaky way to implement Trumps "alternative facts",
considering that all of the witnesses seem to be way better prepared and informed than Nunes and simply
ignore it. Is he just baiting?

[RobDickinson]

MagnaJeep said:

Is he just baiting?

Nope, its distraction and playing to the base.

Nunes is involved, and will likely face consequences if its all investigated properly, to avoid that GOP need to retain some power, to do that they need to keep their voting base on side.

The GOP message is their crime is entirely justified because they are fighting the liberal left commies who want to take your guns and jobs.

[_dobbo_]

The RNC buys a million dollars worth of Don Jr's book "Triggered" - which I'm sure didn't help it get on the bestsellers list

https://twitter.com/nickconfessore/status/11975990...

[RobDickinson]

_dobbo_ said:

The RNC buys a million dollars worth of Don Jr's book "Triggered" - which I'm sure didn't help it get on the bestsellers list

https://twitter.com/nickconfessore/status/11975990...

Uh $95,000 not a million. Enough to push it to the bestseller list tho.

[_dobbo_]

Ah st that will teach me for speed reading! Or maybe I just saw what I wanted to see, I'm probably guilty of the latter.

[Byker28i]

RobDickinson said:

MagnaJeep said:

Is he just baiting?

Nope, its distraction and playing to the base.

Nunes is involved, and will likely face consequences if its all investigated properly, to avoid that GOP need to retain some power, to do that they need to keep their voting base on side.

The GOP message is their crime is entirely justified because they are fighting the liberal left commies who want to take your guns and jobs.

Nunes like Lynsey graham are deep into it that they are also fighting to protect their wrongdoing and their own skins.

Lindsey Graham
@LindseyGrahamSC
Today, I sent a letter to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo requesting documents related to contacts between:

➡️ Vice President Biden
➡️ Hunter Biden
➡️ other Obama administration officials and Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko.
9:35 pm · 21 Nov 2019·TweetDeck

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/LG%...

[Byker28i]

Chris Hayes
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Remember: Republicans had majority control over **both houses of congress*** when all this happened back in 2015/2016 and they held NOT ONE HEARING about it because it was it was not worthy of their oversight! They were chasing Benghazi at the time to damage Clinton.

[Byker28i]

Worth watching Schiffs closing statement today
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t4ssrr2OsQ0


Schiff’s last point: The undisputed evidence shows, after two years of hollering “no collusion” every day about 2016, on the morning after Robert Mueller carefully declined to accuse or exonerate him, Trump was on the phone seeking to collude with a foreign power about 2020

[Byker28i]

RobDickinson said:

_dobbo_ said:

The RNC buys a million dollars worth of Don Jr's book "Triggered" - which I'm sure didn't help it get on the bestsellers list

https://twitter.com/nickconfessore/status/11975990...

Uh $95,000 not a million. Enough to push it to the bestseller list tho.

New FEC disclosures show a single large RNC payment of $94,800 to Books-a-Million in October, a few days before "Triggered" was released. An RNC spokesman confirmed that the expenditure was connected to their promotion of Don Trump Jr.'s book.

An RNC spokesman previously told us "We haven’t made a large bulk purchase, but are ordering copies to keep up with demand."
I asked today how that squares with buying almost a hundred grand worth of books on a single day.
Answer: "We stand by our statement."
https://mobile.twitter.com/nickconfessore/status/1...

Did daddy help with the book buying? And there it was with us thinking Ivanka was the favourite.

[Byker28i]

A group of Republican senators met Thursday morning with White House counsel Pat Cipollone, counselor to the president Kellyanne Conway and Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner to discuss impeachment strategy

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/21/white-hou...

The Republican senators who attended the meeting Thursday were Mike Lee of Utah, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, John Kennedy of Louisiana, Ted Cruz of Texas, Tom Cotton of Arkansas and Ron Johnson of Wisconsin

So they are meeting with what will be the lawyer leading the defence of trump in his impeachment.

[hidetheelephants]

Blackpuddin said:

British-born Fiona Hill coming across well at the inquiry, surely a shoe-in for the next 'M' in MI6. Surprised techiedave hasn't been on here singing her praises.

Not 'big-boned' enough for techiedave.

[Jazzer77]

Adam Schiff is an impressive individual.

Slow , steady and methodical. History will judge him well.

[paulguitar]

Jazzer77 said:

Adam Schiff is an impressive individual.

Slow , steady and methodical. History will judge him well.

I agree, quite how he can remain as calm as he does when confronted with such relentless fkwittery is truly impressive.