How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 11)

[sunbeam alpine]

frisbee said:

REALIST123 said:

I think a generation of British people will see the EU for what it is if there’s a no seal outcome.

If they didn’t know already.

I voted for my seal and I demand to have one!

You probably voted killer whale. That's why there's no seal...

[Earthdweller]

Interesting poll in the journal.ie

Most over in ROI seem to think Brexit ain’t happening

They might be in for a surprise

[mx5nut]

DeepEnd said:

mx5nut said:

What do you mean by that? Isn't no deal what they voted for? Why are Brexiters talking about it as if it's a negative outcome now?

It’s Schrödinger’s no deal. Both exactly what they voted for and the EU are evil for letting us have it.

Another one for the LBC/PH list of leavers who contradict themselves and expose their arguments and beliefs as fundamentally flawed.

Their inconsistency is the only consistent thing about their argument

The important thing is that they are angry about something.

[mx5nut]

gooner1 said:

But if the EU refuse to negotiate

Somebody hasn't been paying attention.

[mx5nut]

Earthdweller said:

Interesting poll in the journal.ie

Most over in ROI seem to think Brexit ain’t happening

They might be in for a surprise

Boris will have a choice between a delay or losing power to a Corbyn government after a "no deal". His ego alone is likely to make him pick the former

[amusingduck]

mx5nut said:

Boris will have a choice between a delay or losing power to a Corbyn government after a "no deal". His ego alone is likely to make him pick the former

You think his ego desires the legacy of May?

[Down and out]

Haven't heard "people's vote" for a few days now, what's going on?

[gooner1]

mx5nut said:

gooner1 said:

But if the EU refuse to negotiate

Somebody hasn't been paying attention.

Really, when did we leave, and has anyone informed the EU.?

[bitchstewie]

Stupid of Bercow.

He does appear to have realised the error of his ways unlike Nigel "Breaking point poster" and "Special guest speaker at an AfD rally" Farage.

Strange how the Brexit Party gang seem a little quiet on that latter one.

Does anyone know more about Darren Grimes fine from the Electoral Commission being overturned?

I heard him on LBC this morning and he came across very well and rather hard done by.

[anonymous-user]

Down and out said:

Haven't heard "people's vote" for a few days now, what's going on?

It’s a few days closer

[gooner1]

bhstewie said:

Stupid of Bercow.

He does appear to have realised the error of his ways unlike Nigel "Breaking point poster" and "Special guest speaker at an AfD rally" Farage.

Strange how the Brexit Party gang seem a little quiet on that latter one.

Does anyone know more about Darren Grimes fine from the Electoral Commission being overturned?

I heard him on LBC this morning and he came across very well and rather hard done by.

Brexit Party gang, who are they then?
Can you point me to what his nigelness actually said at this AfD rally? Ta.

[Down and out]

Jimboka said:

Down and out said:

Haven't heard "people's vote" for a few days now, what's going on?

It’s a few days closer

No point in replying as you seem to one hit wonder all the time.

[Down and out]

bhstewie said:

Stupid of Bercow.

He does appear to have realised the error of his ways unlike Nigel "Breaking point poster" and "Special guest speaker at an AfD rally" Farage.

Strange how the Brexit Party gang seem a little quiet on that latter one.

I couldn't give a toss, is that loud enough?

[bitchstewie]

gooner1 said:

Brexit Party gang, who are they then?
Can you point me to what his nigelness actually said at this AfD rally? Ta.

The people who voted for them.

Here you go https://youtu.be/SwA7ytm9rhE

Look into the AfD, look into their comments, look into their links to Pegida, look into how they went to court to stop the German intelligence services from investigating them for neo-Nazi links.

Then ask yourself whether it's appropriate for Farage to be a speaker at one of their rallies.

[FiF]

sunbeam alpine said:

frisbee said:

REALIST123 said:

I think a generation of British people will see the EU for what it is if there’s a no seal outcome.

If they didn’t know already.

I voted for my seal and I demand to have one!

You probably voted killer whale. That's why there's no seal...

No seal? Bloody Fisheries policy strikes again!

[Tuna]

bhstewie said:

Stupid of Bercow.

He does appear to have realised the error of his ways unlike Nigel "Breaking point poster" and "Special guest speaker at an AfD rally" Farage.
.

Your ability to forgive is exemplary.

Out of interest, did Nigel personally design or select that poster, and do you have any evidence whatsoever that the people who did design it went through obscure film archives to make sure it looked a bit like a particular still from a documentary produced over 80 years ago? The comparison is distasteful, for sure, but the link you're making seems to have come after, not before the poster was launched.

And also - the AfD rally - you mean the third largest party in Germany, the largest opposition party with 94 seats in the parliament? I know you're a fan of guilt by association, but this isn't some minority group that can be written off as extremist nutters. Do you believe they should be no-platformed? How about other populists, like Trump?

It's fascinating that being a member of a club with extremist views can be shrugged off as 'youthful ignorance', yet merely standing in the same room as people who you don't like is seen as gross indecency.

[amusingduck]

bhstewie said:

gooner1 said:

Brexit Party gang, who are they then?
Can you point me to what his nigelness actually said at this AfD rally? Ta.

The people who voted for them.

Here you go https://youtu.be/SwA7ytm9rhE

Look into the AfD, look into their comments, look into their links to Pegida, look into how they went to court to stop the German intelligence services from investigating them for neo-Nazi links.

Then ask yourself whether it's appropriate for Farage to be a speaker at one of their rallies.

They're elected German politicians - how do you suggest the UK changes it's approach to relations with Germany to express our disapproval at the types they let into the Bundestag?

Or is it fine for them to elect these types, it's just not fine for our politicians to speak at their events?

[gooner1]

bhstewie said:

The people who voted for them.

Here you go https://youtu.be/SwA7ytm9rhE

Look into the AfD, look into their comments, look into their links to Pegida, look into how they went to court to stop the German intelligence services from investigating them for neo-Nazi links.

Then ask yourself whether it's appropriate for Farage to be a speaker at one of their rallies.

I'll answer when I've listened to the actual speech, which is more of interest than who
it was said to. After all there is no point in only speaking to those whose views coincide
with our own, is there.

[bitchstewie]

Tuna said:

Your ability to forgive is exemplary.

Out of interest, did Nigel personally design or select that poster, and do you have any evidence whatsoever that the people who did design it went through obscure film archives to make sure it looked a bit like a particular still from a documentary produced over 80 years ago? The comparison is distasteful, for sure, but the link you're making seems to have come after, not before the poster was launched.

And also - the AfD rally - you mean the third largest party in Germany, the largest opposition party with 94 seats in the parliament? I know you're a fan of guilt by association, but this isn't some minority group that can be written off as extremist nutters. Do you believe they should be no-platformed? How about other populists, like Trump?

It's fascinating that being a member of a club with extremist views can be shrugged off as 'youthful ignorance', yet merely standing in the same room as people who you don't like is seen as gross indecency.

I would assume that as Nigel was "personally" happy to stand in front of that poster he was happy with the disgusting overtones.

Interesting that you consider giving a speech at a rally having been personally invited to do so to be "merely standing in the same room", it's almost as if he travelled there and found himself giving a speech by accident.

And don't confuse "no-platforming" with having the judgement not to associate yourself with them by going and giving a speech.

The same could be said about the unfortunate time he found himself on stage supporting Judge Roy Moore in Alabama.

All excellent judgements.

[Tuna]

bhstewie said:

I would assume that as Nigel was "personally" happy to stand in front of that poster he was quite happy with the disgusting overtones.

What exact overtones? The ones people discovered after the poster was launched?

It kinda matters, because if you're going to apply guilt by association, it's no good making the association after the event. The Nazis produced enough documentaries that I bet I could find some footage matching just about any public event in the UK.

bhstewie said:

Interesting that you consider giving a speech at a rally having been personally invited to do so to be "merely standing in the same room", almost as if he travelled there and found himself giving a speech by accident?

You mean that accepting an invite to meetings by a 'bad guy' automatically makes you the same as them? Someone ought to tell Obama, Blair, May, Cameron, Corbyn and all the others.

This guilt by association thing is fun.