How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 11)

[golf_addict]

DeepEnd said:

Not really, I read somewhere it may impact the NHS, but I stand corrected there maybe an exemption.

I still think it’s a “foreign not welcome” policy - as if you don’t earn enough you literally are not welcome. What part of this is a lie.

I think it’s hypocritical as Priti’s parents are immigrants. I don’t actually know if their earnings would have been high enough but as they setup / ran a news agents / shop (I think), there is fair chance they would not have been eligible, unless under asylum perhaps. Either way I tend to think of immigrants we have welcomed to this country that are against free movement as somewhat hypocritical. That’s an opinion not a lie. Interestingly her dad stood for UKIP back in 2913 - failed to get elected.

In summary no lies then.

And if you do earn enough you are welcome.

And in other cases, even if you don’t earn enough you are still welcome.

So clearly not ‘anti-foreigner’.

[anonymous-user]

golf_addict said:

And if you do earn enough you are welcome.

And in other cases, even if you don’t earn enough you are still welcome.

So clearly not ‘anti-foreigner’.

You going to sell them pensions advice ?

[powerstroke]

Who else is ready for a so called no deal ?? , Ive got a good stock of soup and candles and a nice cook book on how to make tasty meals out of locusts ,
I have marked my maps with the location of german car dealers so as to avoid rioting school run mums and self absorbed tossers
angry at the empty showrooms and forecourts... anything else I should consider ???

[anonymous-user]

Brooking10 said:

golf_addict said:

And if you do earn enough you are welcome.

And in other cases, even if you don’t earn enough you are still welcome.

So clearly not ‘anti-foreigner’.

You going to sell them pensions advice ?

HTH

[Nickgnome]

powerstroke said:

Who else is ready for a so called no deal ?? , Ive got a good stock of soup and candles and a nice cook book on how to make tasty meals out of locusts ,
I have marked my maps with the location of german car dealers so as to avoid rioting school run mums and self absorbed tossers
angry at the empty showrooms and forecourts... anything else I should consider ???

Have you no Tonka toys to repair today?

[golf_addict]

Brooking10 said:

You going to sell them pensions advice ?

Given that I don’t sell (nor ever have sold) Pensions or annuities, what is the relevance of your question?

Edited by golf_addict on Monday 19th August 13:29

Edited by golf_addict on Monday 19th August 13:29

[Groat]

El stovey said:

Brooking10 said:

golf_addict said:

And if you do earn enough you are welcome.

And in other cases, even if you don’t earn enough you are still welcome.

So clearly not ‘anti-foreigner’.

You going to sell them an annuity ?

HTH

[Blue62]

powerstroke said:

Who else is ready for a so called no deal ?? , Ive got a good stock of soup and candles and a nice cook book on how to make tasty meals out of locusts ,
I have marked my maps with the location of german car dealers so as to avoid rioting school run mums and self absorbed tossers
angry at the empty showrooms and forecourts... anything else I should consider ???

A bunker of some description as there's likely to be a war, haven't had one in Europe for a while now.

[powerstroke]

Nickgnome said:

powerstroke said:

Who else is ready for a so called no deal ?? , Ive got a good stock of soup and candles and a nice cook book on how to make tasty meals out of locusts ,
I have marked my maps with the location of german car dealers so as to avoid rioting school run mums and self absorbed tossers
angry at the empty showrooms and forecourts... anything else I should consider ???

Have you no Tonka toys to repair today?

Just having Lunch then off to sort out an automated system on a farm that isn't behaving ,
Hope you're having a good day ....

[Nickgnome]

powerstroke said:

Nickgnome said:

powerstroke said:

Who else is ready for a so called no deal ?? , Ive got a good stock of soup and candles and a nice cook book on how to make tasty meals out of locusts ,
I have marked my maps with the location of german car dealers so as to avoid rioting school run mums and self absorbed tossers
angry at the empty showrooms and forecourts... anything else I should consider ???

Have you no Tonka toys to repair today?

Just having Lunch then off to sort out an automated system on a farm that isn't behaving ,
Hope you're having a good day ....

Every day is a good day, albeit it’s a bit windy so disrupting our regatta.

[Taylor James]

Blue62 said:

powerstroke said:

Who else is ready for a so called no deal ?? , Ive got a good stock of soup and candles and a nice cook book on how to make tasty meals out of locusts ,
I have marked my maps with the location of german car dealers so as to avoid rioting school run mums and self absorbed tossers
angry at the empty showrooms and forecourts... anything else I should consider ???

A bunker of some description as there's likely to be a war, haven't had one in Europe for a while now.

I like predictions.

Conventional or nuclear war?
Who will fire the first shot/be first to press the button?

[powerstroke]

Blue62 said:

powerstroke said:

Who else is ready for a so called no deal ?? , Ive got a good stock of soup and candles and a nice cook book on how to make tasty meals out of locusts ,
I have marked my maps with the location of german car dealers so as to avoid rioting school run mums and self absorbed tossers
angry at the empty showrooms and forecourts... anything else I should consider ???

A bunker of some description as there's likely to be a war, haven't had one in Europe for a while now.

Ahh yes I guess you are alluding to the Irish border the EU are going to build ...

[hutchst]

loafer123 said:

Your analogy works well. Both parties in the divorce will have to sort out a settlement at some point.

It is worth pointing out that, deal or no deal, the uncertainty will remain until the permanent relationship is resolved. The WA does nothing except delay the likely timing of the permanent relationship being sorted out.

It does, but with the current deal on the table, if the divorcing couple can't reach an amicable agreement, it will be decided once and for all by the ex-wife's solicitor acting as judge, jury and executioner. Sounds fair enough to me.

[Blue62]

Taylor James said:

I like predictions.

Conventional or nuclear war?
Who will fire the first shot/be first to press the button?

It will be nuclear when Boris and Dominic press the button together on 31/10.

[anonymous-user]

I wonder what the other option will be?

Remain or definitely remain?

I thought Corbyn wanted out?

[anonymous-user]

DeepEnd said:

On the last page we learnt that some brexiters are now asking remainers how on earth we can do anything better than no deal and accusing remainers of having no solutions to avoid no deal.

This feels rather different to all the previous boasts from brexiters about getting a great deal due to the German car industry etc.

At some level, can you recognise that this is a rather big shift in position?

Its been the obvious position since chequers, and confirmed by rejection 3 times in the HOC of the WA.

EU aren't interested in negotiating, so no deal it is.

[WCZ]

Taylor James said:

I'm saying there won't be a second referendum this year, that we will be out on 31st October with a GE shortly afterwards in which Boris will get a big majority.

I don't like to hedge my bets.

https://www.paddypower.com/politics

money to be made there imo, i'm tempted

[anonymous-user]

jsf said:

Its been the obvious position since chequers, and confirmed by rejection 3 times in the HOC of the WA.

EU aren't interested in negotiating, so no deal it is.

Or another version of may’s deal or a GE or a temporary government of unity or another referendum etc etc

[paulrockliffe]

El stovey said:

I wonder what the other option will be?

Remain or definitely remain?

I thought Corbyn wanted out?

The Labour war going on behind the scenes is ace isn't it. My view is that Corbyn is going to 'accidentally' fk everything up so that we leave, otherwise he gets swamped by these morons.

If you missed McDonnell this morning, the most amazing thing about the latest Labour 'policy' is that it is to fight the election agnostic on whether we leave or remain, but they are in favour of a referendum that will be remain vs something agreed with the Lib Dems and the SNP. Ie remain vs 'remain'. So the Labour manifesto policy on the EU is to be farmed out to other parties.

At least the Conservatives will have formed a settled view as those that don't support Boris lose the option of standing as conservatives in that election.

[Blue62]

jsf said:

Its been the obvious position since chequers, and confirmed by rejection 3 times in the HOC of the WA.

EU aren't interested in negotiating, so no deal it is.

There was a considerable degree of negotiation with May and her team and a deal was agreed, that it was rejected has nothing to do with an unwillingness to negotiate, as you seem to assert. We didn't get the deal we want or the one that we promised you, therefore it's the fault of the EU (and those damned remain folk) has been the battlecry since things started to go wrong, it's an insult to most people's intelligence.

The real issue is more complex than many would like to believe, I agree with Cummings that we triggered A50 too soon having made little effort to get our ducks in a row, putting us in a weak negotiating position. If you're looking for a scapegoat, look a little harder.