How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 11)
Discussion
AJL308 said:
So, the EU has tonight gone from "the backstop is absolutely, totally and utterly non-negotiable" to"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49427674
"At a press conference ahead of a working dinner, the German chancellor said a realistic alternative to the plan would require "absolute clarity" on the post-Brexit future relationship between the UK and the EU."
That was always the case. It was the UK’s inability to state with sufficient detail our preferred trade package that the WA was required. This is as a direct result of triggering A50 without a strategy/plan.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49427674
"At a press conference ahead of a working dinner, the German chancellor said a realistic alternative to the plan would require "absolute clarity" on the post-Brexit future relationship between the UK and the EU."
andymadmak said:
DeepEnd said:
Can’t see the wood for the trees, can they?
Which is why many voted for it.
Any evidence yet to support your statement that the May-Robbins plan was actually a DExU plan?Which is why many voted for it.
Or are we back to 'the look on Carlos Ghosn's face' levels of delusion?
Priceless, have another
don'tbesilly said:
andymadmak said:
DeepEnd said:
Can’t see the wood for the trees, can they?
Which is why many voted for it.
Any evidence yet to support your statement that the May-Robbins plan was actually a DExU plan?Which is why many voted for it.
Or are we back to 'the look on Carlos Ghosn's face' levels of delusion?
Priceless, have another
NoNeed said:
You forget it was a typical conceited arrogant remainer that knew he couldn't lose and what everybody else wanted that started this
Haven’t forgotten that at all. He was an idiot who gambled that less than 50% would be duped into voting leave.
He underestimated leavers “capabilities” in this respect.
DeepEnd said:
NoNeed said:
You forget it was a typical conceited arrogant remainer that knew he couldn't lose and what everybody else wanted that started this
Haven’t forgotten that at all. He was an idiot who gambled that less than 50% would be duped into voting leave.
He underestimated leavers “capabilities” in this respect.
These are the people you now rely on to massively u-turn for any hope for reversing the result.
DeepEnd said:
NoNeed said:
You forget it was a typical conceited arrogant remainer that knew he couldn't lose and what everybody else wanted that started this
Haven’t forgotten that at all. He was an idiot who gambled that less than 50% would be duped into voting leave.
He underestimated leavers “capabilities” in this respect.
DeepEnd said:
NoNeed said:
You forget it was a typical conceited arrogant remainer that knew he couldn't lose and what everybody else wanted that started this
Haven’t forgotten that at all. He was an idiot who gambled that less than 50% would be duped into voting leave.
He underestimated leavers “capabilities” in this respect.
https://audioboom.com/posts/1079562-david-cameron-...
Edited by alfie2244 on Wednesday 21st August 20:25
s2art said:
Certain that it was a surprise to DexEU. They all resigned days after Chequers was inflicted on them.
Davis is on record that he first saw the details may presented at chequers just a few days before, the rest of the cabinet saw it at chequers. It had fook all to do with Davis or his department. May should have been booted out there and then for that stunt.
Carl_Manchester said:
digimeistter said:
Looks like Mutti has accepted ramping up of the timescale
looks like she is willing to flex on an Ireland border deal, nothing like a bit of brinkman(woman)ship at the 11th hour and 59 minutes.I took from it a conciliatory tone with emphasis on working together going forward with emphasis on security and stability and timelines being doable
I think, though I might be wrong, that a deal will be done at the 11th hour, which may or may not throw Ireland under the bus
Earthdweller said:
Carl_Manchester said:
digimeistter said:
Looks like Mutti has accepted ramping up of the timescale
looks like she is willing to flex on an Ireland border deal, nothing like a bit of brinkman(woman)ship at the 11th hour and 59 minutes.I took from it a conciliatory tone with emphasis on working together going forward with emphasis on security and stability and timelines being doable
I think, though I might be wrong, that a deal will be done at the 11th hour, which may or may not throw Ireland under the bus
He will be out of a job soon though.
Earthdweller said:
I watched most of the press conference
I took from it a conciliatory tone with emphasis on working together going forward with emphasis on security and stability and timelines being doable
I think, though I might be wrong, that a deal will be done at the 11th hour, which may or may not throw Ireland under the bus
IMOI took from it a conciliatory tone with emphasis on working together going forward with emphasis on security and stability and timelines being doable
I think, though I might be wrong, that a deal will be done at the 11th hour, which may or may not throw Ireland under the bus
No "might" about it!
Leo will regret hitching his gob to the EU when they burn him. I suspect the non backstop WA will involve Ireland being compelled to yield.
Earthdweller said:
I watched most of the press conference
I took from it a conciliatory tone with emphasis on working together going forward with emphasis on security and stability and timelines being doable
I think, though I might be wrong, that a deal will be done at the 11th hour, which may or may not throw Ireland under the bus
Tell you what if BoJo pulls off an 11th hour deal I bet you he calls a snap election straight after and consigns Corbyn to where he belongs, the dustbin. 2 big wins right there. I took from it a conciliatory tone with emphasis on working together going forward with emphasis on security and stability and timelines being doable
I think, though I might be wrong, that a deal will be done at the 11th hour, which may or may not throw Ireland under the bus
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