How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 11)

[C4ME]

Changes to the PD only will mean no deal in reality. It is not worth the paper on which it is written.

[paul.deitch]

Perhaps the next 30 days will also be spent preparing the reparations claim for 40 odd years of brutal subjugation.

[FiF]

banjowilly said:

FiF said:

Just for Dover what were some of the report figures, 30% of lorries are empty, so don't need checking,

Which report is this? Sorry if I've missed a link but would like to read this.

It's a statement from the Calais authorities regarding traffic leaving Dover.

[banjowilly]

FiF said:

It's a statement from the Calais authorities regarding traffic leaving Dover.

OK, so you read it somewhere. Please give the link.

[FiF]

banjowilly said:

FiF said:

It's a statement from the Calais authorities regarding traffic leaving Dover.

OK, so you read it somewhere. Please give the link.

Two possibilities here 1) Only if you declare truthfully what your previous identity/identities were. Or 2) Do your own work.

[andymadmak]

banjowilly said:

OK, so you read it somewhere. Please give the link.

What did your last servant die of? Takes about 20 seconds to find it all by google..

[JNW1]

banjowilly said:

Then offer a workable alternative so it's not needed.

Or, better still, have a genuine commitment to striking a comprehensive FTA so the backstop's not needed.

Cue lots of tooth sucking and comments about how FTA's always take many years to negotiate but we start from a position of perfect alignment with the EU and with goodwill on both sides there's no need for an agreement to take that long to formulate. In many respects it's as hard as people want to make it and I suspect the real problem here is the EU will be looking to make it extremely difficult in order to send a message to any other member who might want to contemplate the idea of leaving in future.

So I reckon they know they're going to make the process of agreeing an FTA long and tortuous and a backstop with no means of escape ensures we're under their control throughout. Overly cynical and accusing the EU of lacking good faith without justification? Perhaps but IMO it's a not an unreasonable conclusion to draw given their current stance....

[DeepEnd]

banjowilly said:

FiF said:

It's a statement from the Calais authorities regarding traffic leaving Dover.

OK, so you read it somewhere. Please give the link.

Might be this as stats match:

https://www.cips.org/en-GB/supply-management/news/...

This is UK overall and not Dover.

Also includes e.g. milk and fuel tankers which can’t do return trips full.

[alfie2244]

FiF said:

banjowilly said:

FiF said:

It's a statement from the Calais authorities regarding traffic leaving Dover.

OK, so you read it somewhere. Please give the link.

Two possibilities here 1) Only if you declare truthfully what your previous identity/identities were. Or 2) Do your own work.

[banjowilly]

FiF said:

banjowilly said:

FiF said:

It's a statement from the Calais authorities regarding traffic leaving Dover.

OK, so you read it somewhere. Please give the link.

Two possibilities here 1) Only if you declare truthfully what your previous identity/identities were. Or 2) Do your own work.

So you made it up then. One more dishonest Brexiter to throw on the pile with the rest. If you had the slightest idea of how cross channel logistics operates. of the margins & costs involved, of how accompanied & unaccompanied trailer operations work, of cabotage rules, of demand balances, then you would have thought twice. But instead of that, you tried to shoehorn in a notion that the Channel disruption is some sort of remainer conspiracy, without evidencing it and wilted like a sunflower when challenged.

I quite like it though, it's one more tacit admission that your fantasy project that you & your fellow true believers are dragging the rest of us into is failure before it's even begun. All there is to offer is lies, half truths, distortions & exhortations to do your own research...because yours doesn't actually exist. Without intending it, you've done me a favour.

DeepEnd said:

Might be this as stats match:

https://www.cips.org/en-GB/supply-management/news/...

This is UK overall and not Dover.

Also includes e.g. milk and fuel tankers which can’t do return trips full.

Exactly. All CV's run empty at some point. It's only a perfect world in which one can reload at one's tipping point. If this is the research FIF is leaning on, it's the grossest twist to extrapolate this to channel crossings, which simply doesn't happen. No haulier relying on 2-3% operating margins does any more dead miles than absolutely necessary & certainly doesn't stump up for ferry crossings empty.

[andymadmak]

I think we can conclude that Banjowilly can't use google.

I'm going to get the popcorn out now and watch on as what I suspect is coming his way is going to be entertaining to watch..

[FiF]

banjowilly said:

FiF said:

banjowilly said:

FiF said:

It's a statement from the Calais authorities regarding traffic leaving Dover.

OK, so you read it somewhere. Please give the link.

Two possibilities here 1) Only if you declare truthfully what your previous identity/identities were. Or 2) Do your own work.

So you made it up then. One more dishonest Brexiter to throw on the pile with the rest. If you had the slightest idea of how cross channel logistics operates. of the margins & costs involved, of how accompanied & unaccompanied trailer operations work, of cabotage rules, of demand balances, then you would have thought twice. But instead of that, you tried to shoehorn in a notion that the Channel disruption is some sort of remainer conspiracy, without evidencing it and wilted like a sunflower when challenged.

I quite like it though, it's one more tacit admission that your fantasy project that you & your fellow true believers are dragging the rest of us into is failure before it's even begun. All there is to offer is lies, half truths, distortions & exhortations to do your own research...because yours doesn't actually exist. Without intending it, you've done me a favour.

DeepEnd said:

Might be this as stats match:

https://www.cips.org/en-GB/supply-management/news/...

This is UK overall and not Dover.

Also includes e.g. milk and fuel tankers which can’t do return trips full.

Exactly. All CV's run empty at some point. It's only a perfect world in which one can reload at one's tipping point. If this is the research FIF is leaning on, it's the grossest twist to extrapolate this to channel crossings, which simply doesn't happen. No haulier relying on 2-3% operating margins does any more dead miles than absolutely necessary & certainly doesn't stump up for ferry crossings empty.

Nope, not made up, and that link is not the source of the information, not even close. You've had enough of a steer already.

on your bike.

[banjowilly]

FiF said:

Nope, not made up, and that link is not the source of the information, not even close. You've had enough of a steer already.

on your bike.

The mysteriously evasive link of unconquerable integrity that would smite ye treacherous remainer to the ends of time.That link?

[Robertj21a]

Crackie said:

don'tbesilly said:

Earthdweller said:

banjowilly said:

Lovely anecdotes.

Glad you like

I recall getting regular anecdotes from the departure lounge at Dublin airport, it was like going back in time to when Whicker was on TV. It's a great shame they (anecdotes from around the world) came to an end, they were always amusing

toppstuff's juvenile anecdotes were fun but he/she is now conspicuous by their absence; probably out of phone coverage whilst meeting some of the more obscure world leaders. Banjowilly is similarly daft; notable for the recent childish renaming of Pan Pan Pan, Crankedup, Amusingduck and others. Comedy gold.

I just assumed that Toppstuff was now Banjowilly....

[alfie2244]

Robertj21a said:

I just assumed that Toppstuff was now Banjowilly....

I can't help wondering where "transport "expert" chicken eddie went...not seen him since KFC ran out of supplies.

[Otis Criblecoblis]

It's a tough market to make ' top resident PH anti Brexit nutter ' in a crowded field contestants, but one where Banjo has succeeded in double quick time.
I say this only from experience of trying to engage him in debate. He didn't wish to comment on what he understood about the risk on no deal pre referendum, because I didn't agree with him on a video where people were talking exactly that.

[anonymous-user]

alfie2244 said:

I can't help wondering where "transport "expert" chicken eddie went...not seen him since KFC ran out of supplies.

Delivering a bargain bucket to a flat roof pub on the edge of a council estate for your mate Goon’s tea ?

[Nickgnome]

banjowilly said:

FiF said:

It's a statement from the Calais authorities regarding traffic leaving Dover.

OK, so you read it somewhere. Please give the link.

I heard some of a radio interview from a representative of Calais. He stated that Calais had put measures in place to stack lorries as they have the capacity and space to do that He went on to suggest it would be more difficult for Dover being so restricted.

I only caught bits so hopefully this was the gist.

There was a chap from Portsmouth dock who was stating as their ferry port is so close (a few hundred metres) to the M275 and M27 any delays would cause stacking back to the M27 and be a major issue for the City of Portsmouth.

Hope this helps clear up any confusion.

[Garvin]

Robertj21a said:

I just assumed that Toppstuff was now Banjowilly....

That’s an outrageous assumption. Now although TS was a supercilious and cretinous buffoon I can assure you that he continually portrayed an elitist level of integrity that would almost certainly prevent him sneaking back into PH under another name and I can’t believe TS would ever have been banned for his clearly non abusive posts and anodyne but, nevertheless, humorous anecdotes.

[Nickgnome]

Brooking10 said:

alfie2244 said:

I can't help wondering where "transport "expert" chicken eddie went...not seen him since KFC ran out of supplies.

Delivering a bargain bucket to a flat roof pub on the edge of a council estate for your mate Goon’s tea ?

I thing Goon may be holidaying down at St. Ozzle

Why does the name Neddie spring to mind?