How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 11)

How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 11)

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gooner1

10,223 posts

180 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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Brooking10 said:
gooner1 said:
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Gv



What exactly do you consider I was attacking when I told you my ethnicity, and then asked if
you MINDED telling me yours? There was no attempt to drag it out of you, you just went to your
usual stance of crying wascist. As for an email saying why I was banned, no such email was sent.
Interesting how you were telling other posters that I was banned though, seeing as I or anyone
else hadn't mentioned it.
Probably best you keep all that and post it up in the Nigel thread Goon.

It’s of zero relevance here.
Thanks for your input Trevor.thumbup

However I feel obliged to point out that it was your mate DP that actually introduced the subject
to this thread. Which to anyone actually reading this should have been blatantly obvious.
No need to apologise, we all make mistakes. Ta.


Edited to add.

Talking of mistakes, I've just realised you've snipped DP's post out. Any reason for that?





Edited by gooner1 on Monday 26th August 16:25

powerstroke

10,283 posts

161 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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Mrr T said:
The figures I see suggest Ireland exports to the UK (including NI) 11% of exports, NI exports to Ireland 33% of exports.
U wot mate ????

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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NoNeed said:
He is one of a group that contains a MOD I believe.
I concur.

Vanden Saab

14,118 posts

75 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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Mrr T said:
jsf said:
NI wont have any tariffs selling to its major market, rest of UK, its competitors just got more expensive too.

Ideally UK leaves with a deal that works for all, if not NI wont be as badly impacted as ROI.

The current ROI position is beginning to sink in how absurd it is for them.
The figures I see suggest Ireland exports to the UK (including NI) 11% of exports, NI exports to Ireland 33% of exports.
Ah lies, damn lies and statistics.... from figures I could find 59% of everything NI sold outside its own borders went to the UK. with 15% going to Ireland. They sell 16% to the ROW... Puts a slightly different slant on things eh...



bitchstewie

51,311 posts

211 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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NoNeed said:
He is one of a group that contains a MOD I believe, the reason is, a few weeks ago I reported a post by one of them for using words Identical to my own that got me a ban and the offender got to modify the post rather than receive any ban.
I tend to think of it as being a little like football where maybe there's a bit of "totting up" comes into it.

Personally I've been here a long time and I don't think I've been banned from a thread or had any posts pulled other than where they've quoted posts that had been pulled so it didn't make much sense to leave them.

Either way I tend to think when you're a guest in someone else's house you play by their rules.

gooner1

10,223 posts

180 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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bhstewie said:
I tend to think of it as being a little like football where maybe there's a bit of "totting up" comes into it.

Personally I've been here a long time and I don't think I've been banned from a thread or had any posts pulled other than where they've quoted posts that had been pulled so it didn't make much sense to leave them.

Either way I tend to think when you're a guest in someone else's house you play by their rules.
Absolutely, and that should apply to all the guests.

crankedup

25,764 posts

244 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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ClaphamGT3 said:
crankedup said:
WTO trading for the interim period until the E.U. trade block and U.K. agree otherwise?
The touching faith in the applicability of WTO rules by those who clearly haven't fully grasped how they work would be touching if the situation wasn't so serious.
Oh the irony!!rofl

Mrr T

12,243 posts

266 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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Vanden Saab said:
Mrr T said:
jsf said:
NI wont have any tariffs selling to its major market, rest of UK, its competitors just got more expensive too.

Ideally UK leaves with a deal that works for all, if not NI wont be as badly impacted as ROI.

The current ROI position is beginning to sink in how absurd it is for them.
The figures I see suggest Ireland exports to the UK (including NI) 11% of exports, NI exports to Ireland 33% of exports.
Ah lies, damn lies and statistics.... from figures I could find 59% of everything NI sold outside its own borders went to the UK. with 15% going to Ireland. They sell 16% to the ROW... Puts a slightly different slant on things eh...
This was my source.

http://www.worldstopexports.com/irelands-top-impor...




slow_poke

1,855 posts

235 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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I keep mentioning, that border backstop is about more than trade.

Doesn't seem to be getting much traction in here.

Ah well.

amusingduck

9,397 posts

137 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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bhstewie said:
Either way I tend to think when you're a guest in someone else's house you play by their rules.
Seeing as PH is a business, I think we're more the product than guests

Not sure where the PPP users fit into it biggrin

bitchstewie

51,311 posts

211 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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gooner1 said:
Absolutely, and that should apply to all the guests.
I think that's where you're assuming equal treatment.

If you're a guest in someone else's house they get to choose.

The easy option is don't put yourself in a situation where they feel they need to.

Mrr T

12,243 posts

266 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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NoNeed said:
Mrr T said:
jsf said:
Mrr T said:
You do realise the comment about being screwed did not come from a remainder?
You do realise that most people now use the term Ireland to refer to Eire (ROI).

It was also bloody obvious in the context of the discussion i was referring to the non-UK part of Ireland.
I realised what you meant. I was pointing out tariffs on UK exports to the EU would have a similar affect on NI. But I know most leavers have no interest in the people of NI.
But like I said, you are grossly exaggerating to the point of telling lies.

You said 1.8 million are screwed, the population of NI is indeed 1.8 million but agriculture is just 2.4% of its economic output, agriculture exports less than 1%


This was you post

Mrr T said:
jsf said:
Average EU external tariff rate is 4%. The highly protected agricultural sector is where the rates ramp up most.

Hence why the farming sector is the most problematic, both for UK and EU producers. Thats why UK matching EU tariffs outside membership will screw Ireland.
Thats both part of Ireland. So 1.8M UK citizen will be screw by a no deal brexit. Have you told them?
Are you going to apologize to the northern Irish for your scare tactics?
Why not ask the poster who used the word screwed?

I pointed out the affects of tarrifs would be on both countries.

While agriculture is only 2.4% of NI GDP the tariffs will also impact food products such as butter, cheese, pet foods, etc.

gooner1

10,223 posts

180 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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bhstewie said:
gooner1 said:
Absolutely, and that should apply to all the guests.
I think that's where you're assuming equal treatment.

If you're a guest in someone else's house they get to choose.

The easy option is don't put yourself in a situation where they feel they need to.
Or other sycophantic guests want them to, rather than need to.

Thing is stewie, I always meet things head on, if I think something or someone is wrong I'll say so.
And I'll always respond in the manner in which I'm addressed. I'll also apologise if wrong.

What I won't do though is lie or indulge in or tolerate rascism or snideness, which apparently
upsets some here. Ce la vie. And back on topic............





NoNeed

15,137 posts

201 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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Mrr T said:
Why not ask the poster who used the word screwed?

I pointed out the affects of tarrifs would be on both countries.

While agriculture is only 2.4% of NI GDP the tariffs will also impact food products such as butter, cheese, pet foods, etc.
He used the word in relation to Ireland, you took it exagerated and made it out to be about part of the UK.


No amount of weasel words will change that, seems you aren't man enough to admit it, and instead have deciced to carry on twisting.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

201 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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amusingduck said:
bhstewie said:
Either way I tend to think when you're a guest in someone else's house you play by their rules.
Seeing as PH is a business, I think we're more the product than guests

Not sure where the PPP users fit into it biggrin
I comepletely agree with the statement that it is somebody elses site and they choose the rules, however the oeoole that enfirce thise rules apoear to have friends that can get away with things myself and others can't.

Not complaining just pointing it out.


as for PPP mine was stopped ages ago

Mrr T

12,243 posts

266 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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NoNeed said:
Mrr T said:
Why not ask the poster who used the word screwed?

I pointed out the affects of tarrifs would be on both countries.

While agriculture is only 2.4% of NI GDP the tariffs will also impact food products such as butter, cheese, pet foods, etc.
He used the word in relation to Ireland, you took it exagerated and made it out to be about part of the UK.


No amount of weasel words will change that, seems you aren't man enough to admit it, and instead have deciced to carry on twisting.
The poster suggested if the UK imposed standard EU trafffis on Irish agriculture and food exports to the UK then Ireland would be screwed. I pointed out if the EU imposes tariffs similar tariffs on NI exports to Ireland then NI would be in the same position.

The poster later asked why the affect would be the same which struck me as a pretty stupid question.

Ask that poster why he seemed so pleased that the citizens of Ireland would be screwed. I did no more then point out the inconsistent in his comment.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

201 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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Mrr T said:
NoNeed said:
Mrr T said:
Why not ask the poster who used the word screwed?

I pointed out the affects of tarrifs would be on both countries.

While agriculture is only 2.4% of NI GDP the tariffs will also impact food products such as butter, cheese, pet foods, etc.
He used the word in relation to Ireland, you took it exagerated and made it out to be about part of the UK.


No amount of weasel words will change that, seems you aren't man enough to admit it, and instead have deciced to carry on twisting.
The poster suggested if the UK imposed standard EU trafffis on Irish agriculture and food exports to the UK then Ireland would be screwed. I pointed out if the EU imposes tariffs similar tariffs on NI exports to Ireland then NI would be in the same position.

The poster later asked why the affect would be the same which struck me as a pretty stupid question.

Ask that poster why he seemed so pleased that the citizens of Ireland would be screwed. I did no more then point out the inconsistent in his comment.
The poster pointed out the effects of tarifs on Irish agriculture, you twisted it and got called out, live with it and move on.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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Mrr T said:
The poster suggested if the UK imposed standard EU trafffis on Irish agriculture and food exports to the UK then Ireland would be screwed. I pointed out if the EU imposes tariffs similar tariffs on NI exports to Ireland then NI would be in the same position.

The poster later asked why the affect would be the same which struck me as a pretty stupid question.

Ask that poster why he seemed so pleased that the citizens of Ireland would be screwed. I did no more then point out the inconsistent in his comment.
So much bks and lies in this post.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

201 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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jsf said:
Mrr T said:
The poster suggested if the UK imposed standard EU trafffis on Irish agriculture and food exports to the UK then Ireland would be screwed. I pointed out if the EU imposes tariffs similar tariffs on NI exports to Ireland then NI would be in the same position.

The poster later asked why the affect would be the same which struck me as a pretty stupid question.

Ask that poster why he seemed so pleased that the citizens of Ireland would be screwed. I did no more then point out the inconsistent in his comment.
So much bks and lies in this post.
He just keeps digging

Mrr T

12,243 posts

266 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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jsf said:
Mrr T said:
The poster suggested if the UK imposed standard EU trafffis on Irish agriculture and food exports to the UK then Ireland would be screwed. I pointed out if the EU imposes tariffs similar tariffs on NI exports to Ireland then NI would be in the same position.

The poster later asked why the affect would be the same which struck me as a pretty stupid question.

Ask that poster why he seemed so pleased that the citizens of Ireland would be screwed. I did no more then point out the inconsistent in his comment.
So much bks and lies in this post.
Poster gets caught seemly pleased that UK tarrifs on Irish agricultural and food exports will have a negative effect on Ireland. Gets a bit embarrassed when it's pointed out the affects of EU tarrifs on NI exports.

So unless you intend to delete your posts trying to claim other wise makes you look like a t###.

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