Boris Johnson- Prime Minister

[Nickgnome]

Tuna said:

Nickgnome said:

I didn’t know anyone could say so little in so many words.

Great response.

Out of interest, how did your second business go?

Third actually and only set up to do a bit of consultancy. For me it was to enable me to deliver a project which I ran before I left. It was a client wish. Undertook a few other commissions as well. I tried to keep it to 2 or 3 days per week max.
Found I as getting sucked back in to give advice on other stuff and I really did not want to get into employing people again so decided to stop completely. I miss the buzz, clients , colleagues and staff but it’s an all or nothing lifestyle.

[Tuna]

Nickgnome said:

Third actually and only set up to do a bit of consultancy. For me it was to enable me to deliver a project which I ran before I left. It was a client wish. Undertook a few other commissions as well. I tried to keep it to 2 or 3 days per week max.
Found I as getting sucked back in to give advice on other stuff and I really did not want to get into employing people again so decided to stop completely. I miss the buzz, clients , colleagues and staff but it’s an all or nothing lifestyle.

There, you see, you can manage a sensible response. Why act like an asshole when someone actually tries to respond to the points you make?

[anonymous-user]

Tuna said:

Nickgnome said:

I didn’t know anyone could say so little in so many words.

Great response.

Out of interest, how did your second business go?

Dick move.

[Tuna]

Brooking10 said:

Tuna said:

Nickgnome said:

I didn’t know anyone could say so little in so many words.

Great response.

Out of interest, how did your second business go?

Dick move.

Firstly, I think Nick took it in the spirit intended. I had no reason to think his experience was particularly negative. But it makes my point about the experience of having great success in one business does not translate to great success in every business - the environment in which we work, and our expectations and goals change. So saying "I had a great business under the EU, so I know that we need the EU to have great businesses" (paraphrased) does not exactly hold water, does it?

Secondly, Nick's original response was rude and insulting - that's somehow not a 'Dick move'?

[Nickgnome]

Tuna said:

Brooking10 said:

Tuna said:

Nickgnome said:

I didn’t know anyone could say so little in so many words.

Great response.

Out of interest, how did your second business go?

Dick move.

Firstly, I think Nick took it in the spirit intended. I had no reason to think his experience was particularly negative. But it makes my point about the experience of having great success in one business does not translate to great success in every business - the environment in which we work, and our expectations and goals change. So saying "I had a great business under the EU, so I know that we need the EU to have great businesses" (paraphrased) does not exactly hold water, does it?

Secondly, Nick's original response was rude and insulting - that's somehow not a 'Dick move'?

I think you’ve had a bit of a logic fail in your first para. I think it’s fair to say my situation was a bit atypical and at a clients request. It evidences nothing in relation to your point.

Rude and Insulting, really. You are getting touchy.

[AJL308]

amusingduck said:

Otis Criblecoblis said:

More important big red bus news for PH Remainers.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/14/j...
Any Remainers chuck this guy £25 ?

Guardian said:

“One is to appeal to the European courts because what the UK courts system is essentially saying is that Boris Johnson is above the law. What choice do we have?

Sounds like a balanced take on the matter

Above the law? Doesn't sound like it if he had bothered to read the salient points of the judgement.

Also, the court made the point that one of the grounds on which they would also kick it out is that it's basically vexatious litigation; the real reason it is being brought is different to the reason that the people lodging the claim are giving the court. They are basically trying to get a political outcome or score political points rather than any concern about what he actually said.

[Yertis]

Brooking10 said:

The public gets what the public wants
We want convenience, we want price deflation, we want goods and services on demand, we want equities underpinning our pensions to perform, the list is endless.

I'd suggest

Brooking10 could have said:

The public gets what the public wants
But I want nothing this society's got

It's more succinct, and scans better, although – granted – not necessarily accurate in all cases. HTH

[anonymous-user]

Yertis said:

Brooking10 said:

The public gets what the public wants
We want convenience, we want price deflation, we want goods and services on demand, we want equities underpinning our pensions to perform, the list is endless.

I'd suggest

Brooking10 could have said:

The public gets what the public wants
But I want nothing this society's got

It's more succinct, and scans better, although – granted – not necessarily accurate in all cases. HTH

Good to see a fellow connoisseur of the Bard of Woking

[Tuna]

Nickgnome said:

Rude and Insulting, really. You are getting touchy.

No, just a little tired of your debating style. Not good form on my behalf because I know I annoy people on here, but I don't claim to be perfect

[anonymous-user]

Tuna said:

No, just a little tired of your debating style. Not good form on my behalf because I know I annoy people on here, but I don't claim to be perfect

Scoring highly for self awareness though which is a positive

[Burwood]

Brooking10 said:

Tuna said:

No, just a little tired of your debating style. Not good form on my behalf because I know I annoy people on here, but I don't claim to be perfect

Scoring highly for self awareness though which is a positive

Guilty as charged there Tuna

[Yertis]

Brooking10 said:

Good to see a fellow connoisseur of the Bard of Woking

[Tuna]

Burwood said:

Brooking10 said:

Tuna said:

No, just a little tired of your debating style. Not good form on my behalf because I know I annoy people on here, but I don't claim to be perfect

Scoring highly for self awareness though which is a positive

Guilty as charged there Tuna

Happy to hold my hands up. Helps me to recognise when other people are being prats too

[anonymous-user]

Tuna said:

Nickgnome said:

I didn’t know anyone could say so little in so many words.

Great response.

Out of interest, how did your second business go?

Is it really worth being like that and saying that kind of thing just for internet point scoring?

I think you’ve gone too far TBH.

[milkround]

Had a fun(ish) day today. Went back to an old hunting ground (but a site I'd never been to). It's the JLR site in Gaydon. The company I work for are pulling some trailers to help out another company so I got it. Managed to even get to go around their 'track' in an artic. It was pretty amazing actually - even if I wasn't giving it beans. (As I had to drop something off halfway around).

Saw new Defender up and close (and not in the zebra paint). Saw loads of amazing cars actually. Their track simulates most things a car can go through in real life. Even has a dummy motorway etc. Just much much much nicer than any road we muggles get to drive on. Sad fact is when you leave (or look back) you see the graveyard of amazing cars which they crush after testing them.

Also saw some lads I used to work with. I drove on the DHL contract out of Solihull. They told me they were worried about their jobs. Word is it's all going - already nearly no shifts etc. I felt a massive bit of sadness. One of my happiest memories driving a truck was first going to the Solihull site and getting lost. Seeing the lines of robots building the cars. Seeing the huge numbers of engines. Seeing real industry on a mass scale. It was a mind blowing experience for me. I went at about 3am and wandered around trying to work out where I should be.

Today I want to be wrong more than anything. I want Boris to do it and Brexit to not wipe out that industry. I want it to continue. I want to keep the dream of one day being a manager there and getting one of those amazing cars as a 'company car' etc. Anyone who says Britiain isn't great hasn't seen it.

[S1KRR]

milkround said:

Had a fun(ish) day today. Went back to an old hunting ground (but a site I'd never been to). It's the JLR site in Gaydon. The company I work for are pulling some trailers to help out another company so I got it. Managed to even get to go around their 'track' in an artic. It was pretty amazing actually - even if I wasn't giving it beans. (As I had to drop something off halfway around).

Saw new Defender up and close (and not in the zebra paint). Saw loads of amazing cars actually. Their track simulates most things a car can go through in real life. Even has a dummy motorway etc. Just much much much nicer than any road we muggles get to drive on. Sad fact is when you leave (or look back) you see the graveyard of amazing cars which they crush after testing them.

Also saw some lads I used to work with. I drove on the DHL contract out of Solihull. They told me they were worried about their jobs. Word is it's all going - already nearly no shifts etc. I felt a massive bit of sadness. One of my happiest memories driving a truck was first going to the Solihull site and getting lost. Seeing the lines of robots building the cars. Seeing the huge numbers of engines. Seeing real industry on a mass scale. It was a mind blowing experience for me. I went at about 3am and wandered around trying to work out where I should be.

Today I want to be wrong more than anything. I want Boris to do it and Brexit to not wipe out that industry. I want it to continue. I want to keep the dream of one day being a manager there and getting one of those amazing cars as a 'company car' etc. Anyone who says Britiain isn't great hasn't seen it.

IMO The "worry" experienced by those lads is 100% due to the messing around over Brexit since the referendum. What every business wants is certainty. They can work with Leaving or Remaining. The actual difference wont be THAT big IMO. Not pestilence and plague. And not free cookies for everyone.

But they just need to know ASAP which it is!


TBH I'm at the point where I'm sick of hearing the whining from the Remoan side (not remainers) I just want something to happen. Leave (my preference) but if we Remain then we go exactly back to where we were prior to the referendum. And then the UK Government can set to work on "reforming" the un-reformable! At least that wont be on the TV every bleeding hour!

[amusingduck]

S1KRR said:

IMO The "worry" experienced by those lads is 100% due to the messing around over Brexit since the referendum.

At JLR? No chance

article said:

Imagine having your global car production centered in the UK and Brexit uncertainty being only fourth or fifth on your list of headaches. That is the nightmare facing Jaguar Land Rover as it slumped to a loss in the first half of 2018 amid falling sales, high costs and production freezes.

https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/why-jaguar-land-rover-losing-money-and-how-it-plans-return-profit

[anonymous-user]

Apparently Boris is planning on getting Stephen Barclay to sign the Commencement Order imminently.

Good news

[The3rdDukeofB]

S1KRR said:

IMO The "worry" experienced by those lads is 100% due to the messing around over Brexit since the referendum. What every business wants is certainty. They can work with Leaving or Remaining. The actual difference wont be THAT big IMO. Not pestilence and plague. And not free cookies for everyone.

But they just need to know ASAP which it is!


TBH I'm at the point where I'm sick of hearing the whining from the Remoan side (not remainers) I just want something to happen. Leave (my preference) but if we Remain then we go exactly back to where we were prior to the referendum. And then the UK Government can set to work on "reforming" the un-reformable! At least that wont be on the TV every bleeding hour!

My sentiments exactly

[Burwood]

Looks like Sajid is going to cut stamp duty. Good idea.