Boris Johnson- Prime Minister

[citizensm1th]

golf_addict said:

Roman Rhodes said:

“Pension salesman”? That is a terrible slur. I thought you sold life insurance!

In that case you’d also be wrong.

I always thought it was ISA,s and dodgy PPI

[anonymous-user]

Vaud said:

The likes of Accenture hire (and pay well) for talent and brains - history, philosophy, etc. Outside of deep domain capabilities where you need certain foundational knowledge they want inquisitive, articulate brains.

I’m guessing Bob isn’t a huge fan of consultants

[Nickgnome]

Brooking10 said:

Vaud said:

The likes of Accenture hire (and pay well) for talent and brains - history, philosophy, etc. Outside of deep domain capabilities where you need certain foundational knowledge they want inquisitive, articulate brains.

I’m guessing Bob isn’t a huge fan of consultants

Not those pesky experts again.

[rscott]

Turns out the additional money the NHS were promised by Boris is nothing of the sort.
They're just being allowed to revert back to the budgets they'd previously set (after being asked earlier in the year to reduce them) and spend some of their reserves.

https://www.hsj.co.uk/finance-and-efficiency/confi...

[DeepEnd]

rscott said:

Turns out the additional money the NHS were promised by Boris is nothing of the sort.
They're just being allowed to revert back to the budgets they'd previously set (after being asked earlier in the year to reduce them) and spend some of their reserves.

https://www.hsj.co.uk/finance-and-efficiency/confi...

Krishnan had skidmore on the skids :

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/po...

Video well worth the full watch. Skidmore capitulates at the end.

[Troubleatmill]

It is nice seeing the former head of the civil service being professional about things.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1167681/brexit-n...

[Gargamel]

Brooking10 said:

Vaud said:

The likes of Accenture hire (and pay well) for talent and brains - history, philosophy, etc. Outside of deep domain capabilities where you need certain foundational knowledge they want inquisitive, articulate brains.

I’m guessing Bob isn’t a huge fan of consultants

In the red corner, Jeremy Corbyn with two E grade A levels

In the Blue corner, Boris Johnson prize winning student at Eton College (on a scholarship) and the a four year Classics Degree at Oxford.

Followed by writing a couple of books...

Still you follow your blind prejudices.

[Le Controleur Horizontal]

Troubleatmill said:

It is nice seeing the former head of the civil service being professional about things.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1167681/brexit-n...

Rather shocking to see him try to destroy the Civil Service in the future. "Liberalist European Remainers" do not seem to care about democracy and honest government or the damage THEY are doing to it.

Is it really because deep down they are just like your everyday Fascist/Commie, they just want people to do/live how THEY want ?

[banjowilly]

Le Controleur Horizontal said:

Troubleatmill said:

It is nice seeing the former head of the civil service being professional about things.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1167681/brexit-n...

Rather shocking to see him try to destroy the Civil Service in the future. "Liberalist European Remainers" do not seem to care about democracy and honest government or the damage THEY are doing to it.

Is it really because deep down they are just like your everyday Fascist/Commie, they just want people to do/live how THEY want ?

The building's on fire!
Right. Let's pour it on at the guy who hit the fire alarm button.

You guys & your razor sharp powers of analysis are just adorable.

[Le Controleur Horizontal]

banjowilly said:

The building's on fire!
Right. Let's pour it on at the guy who hit the fire alarm button.

You guys & your razor sharp powers of analysis are just adorable.

He was head of the CS ffs....think about it and what he just said and what that will do to British Politics/CC and our (strained) trust in those that govern/run the world we live in.

[T-195]

Gargamel said:

Brooking10 said:

Vaud said:

The likes of Accenture hire (and pay well) for talent and brains - history, philosophy, etc. Outside of deep domain capabilities where you need certain foundational knowledge they want inquisitive, articulate brains.

I’m guessing Bob isn’t a huge fan of consultants

In the red corner, Jeremy Corbyn with two E grade A levels

In the Blue corner, Boris Johnson prize winning student at Eton College (on a scholarship) and the a four year Classics Degree at Oxford.

Followed by writing a couple of books...

Still you follow your blind prejudices.

And the best Foreign Secretary this country ever had.

Cameron went to Eton too.

That went well.

[banjowilly]

Le Controleur Horizontal said:

He was head of the CS ffs....think about it and what he just said and what that will do to British Politics/CC and our (strained) trust in those that govern/run the world we live in.

Was being the operative. Shooting the piano player because you don't like the tune is never a good look pal.

[Dr Jekyll]

Vaud said:

psi310398 said:

Nickgnome said:

I’m a bit old fashioned and still like the idea of people studying for a degree in the subject they like rather than automatically linking it to the world of work.

I expect some here thinks that’s a complete anathema.

I’d agree.

There is value in education as an end in itself.

A decent non-vocational degree should teach one to think, analyse arguments, reconcile differences of view and recognise other perspectives.

Such a degree might also help develop “muscles” not otherwise deployed - as part of my degree I studied formal logic, which was of no earthly direct application to me at work until I had to get to grips with HTML fifteen years later!

Such development is applicable to, and enhances, almost any job. Some of the best staff I’ve had have been classicists, theologians and geographers!

The likes of Accenture hire (and pay well) for talent and brains - history, philosophy, etc. Outside of deep domain capabilities where you need certain foundational knowledge they want inquisitive, articulate brains.

But why can't an inquisitive articulate person study something relevant to the job?

[Vaud]

Dr Jekyll said:

But why can't an inquisitive articulate person study something relevant to the job?

They can and should for some jobs. But critical thinking, analysis, research and communication/writing skills are transferable (in my example of management consulting which can cover many sectors when you start out)

[Nickgnome]

Dr Jekyll said:

Vaud said:

psi310398 said:

Nickgnome said:

I’m a bit old fashioned and still like the idea of people studying for a degree in the subject they like rather than automatically linking it to the world of work.

I expect some here thinks that’s a complete anathema.

I’d agree.

There is value in education as an end in itself.

A decent non-vocational degree should teach one to think, analyse arguments, reconcile differences of view and recognise other perspectives.

Such a degree might also help develop “muscles” not otherwise deployed - as part of my degree I studied formal logic, which was of no earthly direct application to me at work until I had to get to grips with HTML fifteen years later!

Such development is applicable to, and enhances, almost any job. Some of the best staff I’ve had have been classicists, theologians and geographers!

The likes of Accenture hire (and pay well) for talent and brains - history, philosophy, etc. Outside of deep domain capabilities where you need certain foundational knowledge they want inquisitive, articulate brains.

But why can't an inquisitive articulate person study something relevant to the job?

Why should they. They are paying for their studies, so just like any consumer they can chose whatever they want.

Additionally at 18 may be they have no idea what career they want.

Many graduates eventually obtain professional qualifications in their chosen career. Surely this approach gives us well rounded individuals rather than very narrowly educated ones. I’ve met a few of the latter and some are very much one trick ponies and absolutely useless when moved from their comfort zone.

Edited by Nickgnome on Tuesday 20th August 18:47

[anonymous-user]

So as expected, Boris goes to the EU with no ideas and they give the same offer that they gave May.

Boris blames parliament for his predictable failure. Saying they’re plotting against him and reducing his chances of getting a better deal.

The EU say Boris had no suggestions whatsoever to solve the backstop.

[anonymous-user]

El stovey said:

So as expected, Boris goes to the EU with no ideas and they give the same offer that they gave May.

Boris blames parliament for his predictable failure. Saying they’re plotting against him and reducing his chances of getting a better deal.

The EU say Boris had no suggestions whatsoever to solve the backstop.

Of course not , why would he? They constructed the argument.

I think it was a more robust visit than that

[Le Controleur Horizontal]

El stovey said:

So as expected, Boris goes to the EU with no ideas and they give the same offer that they gave May.

Boris blames parliament for his predictable failure. Saying they’re plotting against him and reducing his chances of getting a better deal.

The EU say Boris had no suggestions whatsoever to solve the backstop.

I do love the logic of "bubble livers"

[bitchstewie]

El stovey said:

So as expected, Boris goes to the EU with no ideas and they give the same offer that they gave May.

Boris blames parliament for his predictable failure. Saying they’re plotting against him and reducing his chances of getting a better deal.

The EU say Boris had no suggestions whatsoever to solve the backstop.

I think my views on Boris are well known so this may come as a surprise.

I think to an extent I can see his point here, now, today.

When you see/hear/read the news and you see MPs and Corbyn scrapping about who would lead a "temporary administration" and it's pretty much a given that there will be a VoNC as soon as Parliament resumes, I think if I were the EU I'd be doing jack st until things became clearer.

[bitchstewie]

pgh said:

As in you can see that he’s proposing dialog with an organisation that is simply saying no?
From my perspective he’s at least trying to resume talks.
The three defeats for the WA mean he’s right to say that it’s unacceptable to the U.K. while in my opinion, the E.U. refusing to even sit back at the table doesn’t reflect well on them.

I have lots of concerns over things that appear duplicitous like the fact the letter he's written doesn't really say anything new, or the way he speaks about our great friends in the EU whilst Priti Patel seems to want to shut the door and pull up the drawbridge on Nov 1st.

But if you're the EU and you can read and watch the media, it seem Sept 4th (?) might be a week of fireworks so why would they do anything now?

I think the difference is that Boris is "blaming" MPs when I'm simply looking at it and thinking "What would I do if I was the EU?".