Boris Johnson- Prime Minister

[gooner1]

T-195 said:

Yes, people being judgemental about yet another unelected Tory running the country.

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As a floating voter atm, I'll take this one over the previously elected one, ta..

[NoNeed]

T-195 said:

Yes, people being judgemental about yet another unelected Tory running the country.

More people have voted for this prime minister than any other in the 47 years I have been on the planet

[alfaman]

NoNeed said:

More people have voted for this prime minister than any other in the 47 years I have been on the planet

[valiant]

Le Controleur Horizontal said:

Remind me who is the ELECTED Mp in Henley ?

John Howell but what’s he got to do with anything??

[ORD]

Wills2 said:

That's the issue with still photos, on the video you can clearly see they are having a joke between each other and he lifts his leg up for a split second.

It’s fake news, essentially. Very poor stuff.

[Piha]

NoNeed said:

More people have voted for this prime minister than any other in the 47 years I have been on the planet

And this undemocratic Prime Minister has clearly expressed his views with great clarity when it comes to British PM's seizing power without facing a General Election.

[Vaud]

Piha said:

And this undemocratic Prime Minister has clearly expressed his views with great clarity when it comes to British PM's seizing power without facing a General Election.

It's politics.

[anonymous-user]

Piha said:

NoNeed said:

More people have voted for this prime minister than any other in the 47 years I have been on the planet

And this undemocratic Prime Minister has clearly expressed his views with great clarity when it comes to British PM's seizing power without facing a General Election.

Ah the old funded by morons campaign

[Piha]

Vaud said:

Piha said:

And this undemocratic Prime Minister has clearly expressed his views with great clarity when it comes to British PM's seizing power without facing a General Election.

It's politics.

No it is not, it what our undemocratic leader clearly said.

But now his populist claptrap is coming back to haunt him. As seen with his recent rebuttal by Macron.

[Vaud]

Piha said:

No it is not, it what our undemocratic leader clearly said.

But now his populist claptrap is coming back to haunt him. As seen with his recent rebuttal by Macron.

Rank hypocrisy in tweets and other statements is seen across the leaders. Regardless of party, I don't like it - but I'm a pragmatist and try to separate the soundbite from the actual leadership intension.

[Piha]

Vaud said:

Rank hypocrisy in tweets and other statements is seen across the leaders. Regardless of party, I don't like it - but I'm a pragmatist and try to separate the soundbite from the actual leadership intension.

OK, let's play a little game, let's call it the de Pfeffel plays......

"Rank hypocrisy" or "actual leadership intension"

[Escapegoat]

Vaud said:

Rank hypocrisy in tweets and other statements is seen across the leaders. Regardless of party, I don't like it - but I'm a pragmatist and try to separate the soundbite from the actual leadership intension.

And that, folks, is how the "ends justifies the means" crowd does it, and why we have the scummy politicians that we do.

[Le Controleur Horizontal]

Escapegoat said:

And that, folks, is how the "ends justifies the means" crowd does it, and why we have the scummy politicians that we do.

Please enlighten us with the name of those that are so enlightened and pure ....

[jtremlett]

Piha said:

And this undemocratic Prime Minister has clearly expressed his views with great clarity when it comes to British PM's seizing power without facing a General Election.

Well to be fair it doesn't say "general election" it says "election" and he was elected just not by the entire electorate. Anyway, it is a nonsense. The British PM is quite often chosen without an election including, off the top of my head, Churchill, Macmillan, Home, Major, Callaghan, Brown and never directly voted for the rest of time either.

[WabiSabi]

jtremlettW said:

Well to be fair it doesn't say "general election" it says "election" and he was elected just not by the entire electorate. Anyway, it is a nonsense. The British PM is quite often chosen without an election including, off the top of my head, Churchill, Macmillan, Home, Major, Callaghan, Brown and never directly voted for the rest of time either.

In the last 100 years, around a half of all PMs have assumed the role at times other than at a GE. It's a feature of our *ahem* democratic system, not a bug.

[Vaud]

Escapegoat said:

Vaud said:

Rank hypocrisy in tweets and other statements is seen across the leaders. Regardless of party, I don't like it - but I'm a pragmatist and try to separate the soundbite from the actual leadership intension.

And that, folks, is how the "ends justifies the means" crowd does it, and why we have the scummy politicians that we do.

We deserve a better system, including a clearer constitution.

My point is more that we have a reasonable political system at present. Could it be better? Yup.
Do most politicians pander to the media? I've yet to find one that doesn't.
Are tweets, or even manifestos delivered on oath? Nope. Hence I'm pragmatic regardless of where I place my cross.

jtremlett said:

ell to be fair it doesn't say "general election" it says "election" and he was elected just not by the entire electorate. Anyway, it is a nonsense. The British PM is quite often chosen without an election including, off the top of my head, Churchill, Macmillan, Home, Major, Callaghan, Brown and never directly voted for the rest of time either.

Exactly...

[NoNeed]

Piha said:

Vaud said:

Piha said:

And this undemocratic Prime Minister has clearly expressed his views with great clarity when it comes to British PM's seizing power without facing a General Election.

It's politics.

No it is not, it what our undemocratic leader clearly said.

But now his populist claptrap is coming back to haunt him. As seen with his recent rebuttal by Macron.

He was democratically elected by more people than any other prime minister since the war, where you get undemocratic from God only knows but it highlights your blind prejudice

[Burwood]

Piha said:

Vaud said:

Piha said:

And this undemocratic Prime Minister has clearly expressed his views with great clarity when it comes to British PM's seizing power without facing a General Election.

It's politics.

No it is not, it what our undemocratic leader clearly said.

But now his populist claptrap is coming back to haunt him. As seen with his recent rebuttal by Macron.

Since when did we vote for a party leader bros

[Randy Winkman]

NoNeed said:

Piha said:

Vaud said:

Piha said:

And this undemocratic Prime Minister has clearly expressed his views with great clarity when it comes to British PM's seizing power without facing a General Election.

It's politics.

No it is not, it what our undemocratic leader clearly said.

But now his populist claptrap is coming back to haunt him. As seen with his recent rebuttal by Macron.

He was democratically elected by more people than any other prime minister since the war, where you get undemocratic from God only knows but it highlights your blind prejudice

I don't get it. Elected by who for what?

[Escapegoat]

NoNeed said:

where you get undemocratic from God only knows

Er... Boris' own words?

"It’s the arrogance. It’s the contempt. That’s what gets me. It’s Gordon Brown’s apparent belief that he can just trample on the democratic will of the British people. ... gigantic fraud."

"The extraordinary thing is that it looks as though he will now be in 10 Downing Street for three years, and without a mandate from the British people. No one elected Gordon Brown as Prime Minister"

Now, you need to get into Vaud's mindset, so that you can put these apparently-principled claims into the "well, all politicians say that" box.