Boris Johnson- Prime Minister

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wisbech

2,980 posts

122 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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Or he is an amateur.

biggles330d

1,543 posts

151 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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wisbech said:
Or he is an amateur.
Hey, that's our crack negotiator you're talking about.... Saviour of the nation.
God help us!

B210bandit

513 posts

98 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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Not that bright, but he's a product of the English public school system which prizes hubris above all else. It's a fine moment when you realise all those twits with private education, their silly accents and their skills in social exclusion, aren't all that bright. That includes about half of the legal profession I work in. Filled to the brim with these Anglo idiots and their ridiculous voices.

768

13,694 posts

97 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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That's the biggest chip I've seen for a while.

alfaman

6,416 posts

235 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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B210bandit said:
Not that bright, but he's a product of the English public school system which prizes hubris above all else. It's a fine moment when you realise all those twits with private education, their silly accents and their skills in social exclusion, aren't all that bright. That includes about half of the legal profession I work in. Filled to the brim with these Anglo idiots and their ridiculous voices.
Oooo nasty !

so everyone who spent time at a public school is not that bright?

and ‘Anglos’ are idiots?

riiigggghhhhttttt

hehe

and you claim to have razor sharp critical reasoning ability ? scratchchin




loafer123

15,448 posts

216 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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768 said:
That's the biggest chip I've seen for a while.
laugh

“Anglo idiots” is an interesting phrase, too...I wonder what flavour the chip is...

amusingduck

9,398 posts

137 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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B210bandit said:
Not that bright, but he's a product of the English public school system which prizes hubris above all else. It's a fine moment when you realise all those twits with private education, their silly accents and their skills in social exclusion, aren't all that bright. That includes about half of the legal profession I work in. Filled to the brim with these Anglo idiots and their ridiculous voices.
amusingduck said:
B210bandit said:
You can understand Scotland wanting to become a normal nation away from the increasingly febrile England, living on past glories.
Better to live on past grievances, eh? biggrin
You never did reply hehe

Oilchange

8,467 posts

261 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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B210bandit said:
Not that bright, but he's a product of the English public school system which prizes hubris above all else. It's a fine moment when you realise all those twits with private education, their silly accents and their skills in social exclusion, aren't all that bright. That includes about half of the legal profession I work in. Filled to the brim with these Anglo idiots and their ridiculous voices.
Seems to me that you’re the bigot here.
Maybe look in the mirror a bit more, sometimes one’s self awareness, or lack of it, is obvious.

Blue62

8,884 posts

153 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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pgh said:
So Boris shoots for the moon with an opening gambit on selling services to the US. Criticised for asking the ‘impossible’ (although Geiko manage a national insurance business extremely well, that sneaky Mr Buffet). Presumably if he didn’t ask for national access he’d also be being criticised for a lack of ambition.
Surely more honest just to state that whatever he does, you won’t be happy?
I’d be happier if he engaged in fewer sound bites and a bit more detail. Telling his opponents to stop being negative and responding to questions about the back stop with phrases like ‘where there’s a will there’s a way’ may cut it with Brenda from Eastbourne but doesn’t fill me with confidence that he has anything up his sleeve beyond a snap election.

It’s clearly working with large swathes of the electorate though, which is worrying and points to the superficial nature of politics these days.

alfaman

6,416 posts

235 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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loafer123 said:
768 said:
That's the biggest chip I've seen for a while.
laugh

“Anglo idiots” is an interesting phrase, too...I wonder what flavour the chip is...
deep fried mars bar flavoured?

wisbech

2,980 posts

122 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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pgh said:
So Boris shoots for the moon with an opening gambit on selling services to the US. Criticised for asking the ‘impossible’ (although Geiko manage a national insurance business extremely well, that sneaky Mr Buffet). Presumably if he didn’t ask for national access he’d also be being criticised for a lack of ambition.
Surely more honest just to state that whatever he does, you won’t be happy?
Technically GEICO have 50 insurance businesses/ licences- not one national one. Same way as HSBC has banks in Canada and France.

But yes- take your point about shooting for the moon. Especially as it is something both Trump and the Republicans have pushed for. (selling across state borders)

Vaud

50,583 posts

156 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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unsprung said:
I know it sounds like silly b******s, but I wouldn't be surprised if somebody on PH knows somebody who speaks from time to time with Boris Johnson.

I mention this because Johnson looks a bit of an amateur when, this weekend, he asks for a federal / national solution for UK insurance companies to sell into the US. There is no insurance company that enjoys such a benefit. Not even American ones.

The reason is that each of the 50 states is responsible for the definition and supervision of its own insurance products. This is, as the Americans might say, "Insurance 101" in the US. Any business person in the US knows this, as should any US-resident trade delegate or commercial attache person from the UK

Asking, as Johnson does, for a one-stop national solution is not only impossible, but also probably prohibited according to the Constitution of the United States. You know: one of those pesky 18th-century documents.

PS: All of us know that the UK has far more valuable things to sell into the US than pork pies and shower trays, FFS. I mean: by all means, bring 'em on. But the PR hacks who work for No. 10 need to ensure that other products / services are headlined as well.
Did he mean a federal solution allowing UK companies to sell to ALL US states - or lowering the barriers to allow UK insurers to set up and sell within the US? (I hadn't seen the article)

As a market, you could probably build a business just in some key states (CA,NY, etc) without needing to sell nationally given their size and scale.

B210bandit

513 posts

98 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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Yeah, see the Anglo sensitivity on display above. Febrile culture at the moment-fair enough, backs are against the wall. My old man was English and raised in public schools at Dockenfield and Pangbourne. English is my first language and I'm from a former British colony. I know this culture 'cos I'm part of it. And yeah, self-loathing is an intimate part of being English

ClaphamGT3

11,304 posts

244 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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B210bandit said:
Not that bright, but he's a product of the English public school system which prizes hubris above all else. It's a fine moment when you realise all those twits with private education, their silly accents and their skills in social exclusion, aren't all that bright. That includes about half of the legal profession I work in. Filled to the brim with these Anglo idiots and their ridiculous voices.
Unlike the Scottish public school system that has given us such political superstars as Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and the Prince of Wales.....

loafer123

15,448 posts

216 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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B210bandit said:
Yeah, see the Anglo sensitivity on display above. Febrile culture at the moment-fair enough, backs are against the wall. My old man was English and raised in public schools at Dockenfield and Pangbourne. English is my first language and I'm from a former British colony. I know this culture 'cos I'm part of it. And yeah, self-loathing is an intimate part of being English
You, sir, are racist.

ClaphamGT3

11,304 posts

244 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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Blue62 said:
pgh said:
So Boris shoots for the moon with an opening gambit on selling services to the US. Criticised for asking the ‘impossible’ (although Geiko manage a national insurance business extremely well, that sneaky Mr Buffet). Presumably if he didn’t ask for national access he’d also be being criticised for a lack of ambition.
Surely more honest just to state that whatever he does, you won’t be happy?
I’d be happier if he engaged in fewer sound bites and a bit more detail. Telling his opponents to stop being negative and responding to questions about the back stop with phrases like ‘where there’s a will there’s a way’ may cut it with Brenda from Eastbourne but doesn’t fill me with confidence that he has anything up his sleeve beyond a snap election.

It’s clearly working with large swathes of the electorate though, which is worrying and points to the superficial nature of politics these days.
This is a very good post. I worked with Boris quite closely when he was the mayor of London and to say he is not one to master detail is something of an understatement.

That’s not always a bad thing - someone has to set a broad vision and someone has to sell it on the doorstep but, when it comes to complex negotiations and aligning multiple interests around a desired outcome, mastery of detail is all. This is why Thatcher, Major and Blair (& the ministerial team’s they built around them) were so successful. This is also why I don’t have high hopes for a good outcome from this Govt

T-195

2,671 posts

62 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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ClaphamGT3 said:
I worked with Boris quite closely when he was the mayor of London and to say he is not one to master detail is something of an understatement.

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You mean he's a bit thick.

No st Sherlock.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

138 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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ClaphamGT3 said:
B210bandit said:
Not that bright, but he's a product of the English public school system which prizes hubris above all else. It's a fine moment when you realise all those twits with private education, their silly accents and their skills in social exclusion, aren't all that bright. That includes about half of the legal profession I work in. Filled to the brim with these Anglo idiots and their ridiculous voices.
Unlike the Scottish public school system that has given us such political superstars as Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and the Prince of Wales.....
Oh dear........ i am not sure Bandit (i once had a very nice cat named that) is a jock

Vanden Saab

14,121 posts

75 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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ClaphamGT3 said:
Blue62 said:
pgh said:
So Boris shoots for the moon with an opening gambit on selling services to the US. Criticised for asking the ‘impossible’ (although Geiko manage a national insurance business extremely well, that sneaky Mr Buffet). Presumably if he didn’t ask for national access he’d also be being criticised for a lack of ambition.
Surely more honest just to state that whatever he does, you won’t be happy?
I’d be happier if he engaged in fewer sound bites and a bit more detail. Telling his opponents to stop being negative and responding to questions about the back stop with phrases like ‘where there’s a will there’s a way’ may cut it with Brenda from Eastbourne but doesn’t fill me with confidence that he has anything up his sleeve beyond a snap election.

It’s clearly working with large swathes of the electorate though, which is worrying and points to the superficial nature of politics these days.
This is a very good post. I worked with Boris quite closely when he was the mayor of London and to say he is not one to master detail is something of an understatement.

That’s not always a bad thing - someone has to set a broad vision and someone has to sell it on the doorstep but, when it comes to complex negotiations and aligning multiple interests around a desired outcome, mastery of detail is all. This is why Thatcher, Major and Blair (& the ministerial team’s they built around them) were so successful. This is also why I don’t have high hopes for a good outcome from this Govt
Because dealing with every little detail herself worked so well for Mrs May...

Evercross

6,008 posts

65 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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alfaman said:
B210bandit said:
Not that bright, but he's a product of the English public school system which prizes hubris above all else. It's a fine moment when you realise all those twits with private education, their silly accents and their skills in social exclusion, aren't all that bright. That includes about half of the legal profession I work in. Filled to the brim with these Anglo idiots and their ridiculous voices.
Oooo nasty !

so everyone who spent time at a public school is not that bright?

and ‘Anglos’ are idiots?

riiigggghhhhttttt

hehe

and you claim to have razor sharp critical reasoning ability ? scratchchin
Ah yes. B210bandit - very active in the Scottish Independence/Referendum threads and a strong proponent of Scottish independence, but claims that Scottish Nationalists are not anti-English xenophobes..

scratchchin
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