Harry and Meghan
Discussion
smn159 said:
Boobonman said:
If you haven't established already that MM is a manipulative, ruthless narcissist who only cares about one person then you are beyond any help.
I've got no idea what she's like other than how she's portrayed in the media and I doubt that you have either,There's a strong whiff of misogyny about the whole 'manipulative / ruthless woman' narrative though, IMO.
steely dan said:
Lord Marylebone said:
steely dan said:
I don't have any feelings for them , let them get on with their lives but I do hope he doesn't adopt the American accent that I can detect in the Oprah clip shown and the interview on the top of the bus with James Corden.
It is actually quite difficult to not pick up accents. If you don't want an accent from somewhere new, then you will have to make a conscious effort to 'fight it off' all the time, which takes some doing.My cousin has lived in the US for 20 years, and has the full 'Midwest' US accent. Years ago, I went over there for 2 months to stay with her, and even after 3 or 4 weeks found myself lapsing into the accent here and there, completely unintentionally. I have no doubt that if I was there for an extended period of time I would myself slip into some form of mid-atlantic or generic US accent.
Language experts have conducted a few studies on this issue, and have concluded that someone who quickly adopts the local accent is usually more proficient with languages in general, and it is considered a useful trait in humans that they can quickly adapt their language to suit their situation or surroundings.
We may consider it undesirable to end up sounding American, but it is quite hard to avoid for some people.
I'm Scottish , from deepest lanarkshire , and have lived in County Kerry Ireland for 18 years and prior to that Hertfordshire for a further 8 +.
I can assure you you are wrong Sir .....
Randy Winkman said:
smn159 said:
Boobonman said:
If you haven't established already that MM is a manipulative, ruthless narcissist who only cares about one person then you are beyond any help.
I've got no idea what she's like other than how she's portrayed in the media and I doubt that you have either,There's a strong whiff of misogyny about the whole 'manipulative / ruthless woman' narrative though, IMO.
IMO they both seem decent enough people, and they don't want to be part of the Royal Family soap opera any more. If I was in Harry's position I would do the same.
HTP99 said:
I do think this Oprah interview will be another spectacular own goal by this couple; elderly Grandfather is ill, the world is still in the grip of a pandemic, yet they come on to moan about hard done by they are and have been!
Hazbeen 
If PtG croaks, the Operah interview will come off very second rate.
Let's hope he keeps on breathing for a while.
98elise said:
Agreed. The amount of people who seem to know the intimate details of their life is staggering. Especially as the same people don't want to read anything about them.
IMO they both seem decent enough people, and they don't want to be part of the Royal Family soap opera any more. If I was in Harry's position I would do the same.
When he gets introduced on Oprah (or whoever) as Harry Windsor - then I'll feel like he's 'left the Royal Family soap opera behind'... IMO they both seem decent enough people, and they don't want to be part of the Royal Family soap opera any more. If I was in Harry's position I would do the same.
What are the odds?
Harry really is the world's unluckiest hermit. Desperate for privacy and he ends-up being grilled by the world's most famous chat show host in front of an audience of hundreds of millions
I mean, what are the odds of that completely accidentally happening when it's the exact opposite of what he wants!?
If he didn't have bad luck he'd have no luck at all.
I mean, what are the odds of that completely accidentally happening when it's the exact opposite of what he wants!?
If he didn't have bad luck he'd have no luck at all.
Sway said:
98elise said:
Agreed. The amount of people who seem to know the intimate details of their life is staggering. Especially as the same people don't want to read anything about them.
IMO they both seem decent enough people, and they don't want to be part of the Royal Family soap opera any more. If I was in Harry's position I would do the same.
When he gets introduced on Oprah (or whoever) as Harry Windsor - then I'll feel like he's 'left the Royal Family soap opera behind'... IMO they both seem decent enough people, and they don't want to be part of the Royal Family soap opera any more. If I was in Harry's position I would do the same.
What are the odds?
(going on national TV to talk all about it is a strange way of leaving it behind)
HTP99 said:
I do think this Oprah interview will be another spectacular own goal by this couple; elderly Grandfather is ill, the world is still in the grip of a pandemic, yet they come on to moan about hard done by they are and have been!
I suspect it'll play very differently on the other side of the Atlantic. They'll lap it up and Meg will get to act the princess.
I'm repeatedly amazed at how much you all know and care about them. Where are you seeing all this info? I only know about them from this thread.
Does this not all boil down to quite a simple equation:
Grumpy Brits who like all the stuff that comes with 'being British' (Royals, pageantry, military ceremonies, bowler hats etc etc
) are just bent out of shape that somebody who in their eyes typifies all that stuff, has rejected it in favour of what they would perceive as brash Americanism.
Basically, he likes America/Meghan more than he likes you and your money, and that makes you/Piers angry??
Does this not all boil down to quite a simple equation:
Grumpy Brits who like all the stuff that comes with 'being British' (Royals, pageantry, military ceremonies, bowler hats etc etc
) are just bent out of shape that somebody who in their eyes typifies all that stuff, has rejected it in favour of what they would perceive as brash Americanism.Basically, he likes America/Meghan more than he likes you and your money, and that makes you/Piers angry??
Disastrous said:
Does this not all boil down to quite a simple equation:
Grumpy Brits who like all the stuff that comes with 'being British' (Royals, pageantry, military ceremonies, bowler hats etc etc ) are just bent out of shape that somebody who in their eyes typifies all that stuff, has rejected it in favour of what they would perceive as brash Americanism.
I thinks it's the 'Family' aspect. The Black Sheep/Prodigal Son/ungrateful child type blow ups are always of interest to people.Grumpy Brits who like all the stuff that comes with 'being British' (Royals, pageantry, military ceremonies, bowler hats etc etc
) are just bent out of shape that somebody who in their eyes typifies all that stuff, has rejected it in favour of what they would perceive as brash Americanism.It's a Soap Opera (or with this interview more Reality TV), but unlike Eastenders and Corrie, it's unscripted.
The Haz and Megz interview may be done calmly in a scenic location, but its still the Christmas Eastenders Face Off with the parties screaming and crying like Chavs.
Edited by hyphen on Tuesday 2nd March 12:38
hyphen said:
I thinks it's the 'Family' aspect. The Black Sheep/Prodigal Son/ungrateful child type blow ups are always of interest to people.
Why is he the black sheep? I'm not a Royal Watcher but I don't think he's done anything to be particularly ashamed of (once you've discounted the faux-outrage by the likes of the Express). And in relation to "ungrateful" - who cares? I never felt that he owed the Public anything.Countdown said:
hyphen said:
I thinks it's the 'Family' aspect. The Black Sheep/Prodigal Son/ungrateful child type blow ups are always of interest to people.
Why is he the black sheep? I'm not a Royal Watcher but I don't think he's done anything to be particularly ashamed of (once you've discounted the faux-outrage by the likes of the Express). And in relation to "ungrateful" - who cares? I never felt that he owed the Public anything.
hyphen said:
Countdown said:
hyphen said:
I thinks it's the 'Family' aspect. The Black Sheep/Prodigal Son/ungrateful child type blow ups are always of interest to people.
Why is he the black sheep? I'm not a Royal Watcher but I don't think he's done anything to be particularly ashamed of (once you've discounted the faux-outrage by the likes of the Express). And in relation to "ungrateful" - who cares? I never felt that he owed the Public anything.What’s the point in having a cake that you can’t eat? A spectacularly pointless turn of phrase that surely must have originated in Yorkshire??
hyphen said:
Countdown said:
hyphen said:
I thinks it's the 'Family' aspect. The Black Sheep/Prodigal Son/ungrateful child type blow ups are always of interest to people.
Why is he the black sheep? I'm not a Royal Watcher but I don't think he's done anything to be particularly ashamed of (once you've discounted the faux-outrage by the likes of the Express). And in relation to "ungrateful" - who cares? I never felt that he owed the Public anything.
SpeckledJim said:
Harry really is the world's unluckiest hermit. Desperate for privacy and he ends-up being grilled by the world's most famous chat show host in front of an audience of hundreds of millions
I mean, what are the odds of that completely accidentally happening when it's the exact opposite of what he wants!?
If he didn't have bad luck he'd have no luck at all.
I mean, what are the odds of that completely accidentally happening when it's the exact opposite of what he wants!?
If he didn't have bad luck he'd have no luck at all.
Love it!Disastrous said:
I'm repeatedly amazed at how much you all know and care about them. Where are you seeing all this info? I only know about them from this thread.
Does this not all boil down to quite a simple equation:
Grumpy Brits who like all the stuff that comes with 'being British' (Royals, pageantry, military ceremonies, bowler hats etc etc ) are just bent out of shape that somebody who in their eyes typifies all that stuff, has rejected it in favour of what they would perceive as brash Americanism.
Basically, he likes America/Meghan more than he likes you and your money, and that makes you/Piers angry??
Angry, I'm not angry! Disappointed. Does this not all boil down to quite a simple equation:
Grumpy Brits who like all the stuff that comes with 'being British' (Royals, pageantry, military ceremonies, bowler hats etc etc
) are just bent out of shape that somebody who in their eyes typifies all that stuff, has rejected it in favour of what they would perceive as brash Americanism.Basically, he likes America/Meghan more than he likes you and your money, and that makes you/Piers angry??
I don't think it's anything to do with the 'being British' side of things, I think people are more put out with the apparent rank hypocrisy that appears to be playing out... AND that we don't really want Harry to get his fingers burnt. He is generally seen (or has been) as being one of the less up themselves royals, someone who was always a bit 'nice, but dim'. It would be a real shame if the relationship with Meghan breaks down and he's left picking up the pieces of his life whilst she swans off to ever greater fame and fortune in the States having used him as not much more than a stepping stone.
Hopefully it won't go that way, but it's looking like a pretty good 50/50 bet at the moment.
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