Harry and Meghan

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Dr Murdoch

3,449 posts

136 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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ATG said:
With respect, arguing the toss on precisely how much each party was to blame is just indulging yourself in the type of behaviour I was describing.
Sorry, but the accident that took her life was largely her doing, no? You said it was the media's.

Apologies again if I've misinterpreted your post(s)

MC Bodge

21,657 posts

176 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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The responses to DeepEnd do appear to be demonstrating what he has said.

Dr Murdoch

3,449 posts

136 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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MC Bodge said:
That was quite mad. I remember feeling a bit surprised/uncomfortable at the outpouring of emotion at the time.
That was very weird, almost amusing seeing the news covering sheep leaving flowers...

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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MC Bodge said:
ATG said:
It isn't just the old. The wide spread hysteria after the death of the Princess of Wales was shocking. Obviously the event itself was dreadfully sad, just as is any avoidable death that bereaves children, but the collective hysteria was self-indulgent, prurient, fantastical idiocy on a scale I had never imagined possible. The total lack of self-reflection of the participants was unnerving. Otherwise normal people behaving like lunatics and feeling confident in their behaviour because they surrounded themselves with fellow lunatics and were egged on by the gutter press whose own spectacular cynicism was largely responsible for the death in the first place.
That was quite mad. I remember feeling a bit surprised/uncomfortable at the outpouring of emotion at the time.
Not the only one

don'tbesilly

13,937 posts

164 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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MC Bodge said:
The responses to DeepEnd do appear to be demonstrating what he has said.
You mean ///ajd (DeepEnd), all he's demonstrating is his obsession with Brexit, which has nothing to do with Harry & Meghan.

///ajd even managed to get Brexit into a thread about the RNLI.

Dr Murdoch

3,449 posts

136 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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techiedave said:
Not the only one
I like to think it was 0.0009% of the nation, despite the coverage.

Dont like rolls

3,798 posts

55 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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techiedave said:
MC Bodge said:
ATG said:
It isn't just the old. The wide spread hysteria after the death of the Princess of Wales was shocking. Obviously the event itself was dreadfully sad, just as is any avoidable death that bereaves children, but the collective hysteria was self-indulgent, prurient, fantastical idiocy on a scale I had never imagined possible. The total lack of self-reflection of the participants was unnerving. Otherwise normal people behaving like lunatics and feeling confident in their behaviour because they surrounded themselves with fellow lunatics and were egged on by the gutter press whose own spectacular cynicism was largely responsible for the death in the first place.
That was quite mad. I remember feeling a bit surprised/uncomfortable at the outpouring of emotion at the time.
Not the only one
Thanks to the press a lot of people had strong feelings for a young Woman in a broken marriage with two young sons who was under intrusive scrutiny, it is not surprising they wished to demonstrate their respect after such a tragic and horrific death far from home. To dismiss such feelings in other people is quite frankly rather pompous and shows a unpleasant feeling of superiority in those that do..

ATG

20,616 posts

273 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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Dr Murdoch said:
techiedave said:
Not the only one
I like to think it was 0.0009% of the nation, despite the coverage.
I'd like to think it was about 600 people too, but it pretty clearly wasn't. It was honest to goodness mass hysteria with some people getting abuse for not joining in.

ATG

20,616 posts

273 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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Dont like rolls said:
Thanks to the press a lot of people had strong feelings for a young Woman in a broken marriage with two young sons who was under intrusive scrutiny, it is not surprising they wished to demonstrate their respect after such a tragic and horrific death far from home. To dismiss such feelings in other people is quite frankly rather pompous and shows a unpleasant feeling of superiority in those that do..
Exhibit A

Gary C

12,489 posts

180 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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I just wish people and press would just shut up about them.

I dont care about them (other than as people).

BBC news leading with it as the main story yet again, apparently he is on a plane rather than poncing about at some royal bash, so fking what.

Leave it !

Edited by Gary C on Monday 20th January 22:07

Dont like rolls

3,798 posts

55 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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ATG said:
with some people getting abuse for not joining in.
Which was a rarer event than a dry fart the morning after a vindaloo..........

Dont like rolls

3,798 posts

55 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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ATG said:
Dont like rolls said:
Thanks to the press a lot of people had strong feelings for a young Woman in a broken marriage with two young sons who was under intrusive scrutiny, it is not surprising they wished to demonstrate their respect after such a tragic and horrific death far from home. To dismiss such feelings in other people is quite frankly rather pompous and shows a unpleasant feeling of superiority in those that do..
Exhibit A
Congrats, you score 5 bonus Pompous git points.

ABZ RS6

749 posts

104 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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Dont like rolls said:
ATG said:
Dont like rolls said:
Thanks to the press a lot of people had strong feelings for a young Woman in a broken marriage with two young sons who was under intrusive scrutiny, it is not surprising they wished to demonstrate their respect after such a tragic and horrific death far from home. To dismiss such feelings in other people is quite frankly rather pompous and shows a unpleasant feeling of superiority in those that do..
Exhibit A
Congrats, you score 5 bonus Pompous git points.
Or a big thumbs up from everyone with any grasp on reality.

MC Bodge

21,657 posts

176 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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ABZ RS6 said:
Dont like rolls said:
ATG said:
Dont like rolls said:
Thanks to the press a lot of people had strong feelings for a young Woman in a broken marriage with two young sons who was under intrusive scrutiny, it is not surprising they wished to demonstrate their respect after such a tragic and horrific death far from home. To dismiss such feelings in other people is quite frankly rather pompous and shows a unpleasant feeling of superiority in those that do..
Exhibit A
Congrats, you score 5 bonus Pompous git points.
Or a big thumbs up from everyone with any grasp on reality.
thumbup

DeepEnd

4,240 posts

67 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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MC Bodge said:
ABZ RS6 said:
Dont like rolls said:
ATG said:
Dont like rolls said:
Thanks to the press a lot of people had strong feelings for a young Woman in a broken marriage with two young sons who was under intrusive scrutiny, it is not surprising they wished to demonstrate their respect after such a tragic and horrific death far from home. To dismiss such feelings in other people is quite frankly rather pompous and shows a unpleasant feeling of superiority in those that do..
Exhibit A
Congrats, you score 5 bonus Pompous git points.
Or a big thumbs up from everyone with any grasp on reality.
thumbup
thumbup

MC Bodge

21,657 posts

176 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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don'tbesilly said:
MC Bodge said:
The responses to DeepEnd do appear to be demonstrating what he has said.
You mean ///ajd (DeepEnd), all he's demonstrating is his obsession with Brexit, which has nothing to do with Harry & Meghan.

///ajd even managed to get Brexit into a thread about the RNLI.
I think that the same underlying issues led to the Brexit farce.

Dont like rolls

3,798 posts

55 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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DeepEnd said:
MC Bodge said:
ABZ RS6 said:
Dont like rolls said:
ATG said:
Dont like rolls said:
Thanks to the press a lot of people had strong feelings for a young Woman in a broken marriage with two young sons who was under intrusive scrutiny, it is not surprising they wished to demonstrate their respect after such a tragic and horrific death far from home. To dismiss such feelings in other people is quite frankly rather pompous and shows a unpleasant feeling of superiority in those that do..
Exhibit A
Congrats, you score 5 bonus Pompous git points.
Or a big thumbs up from everyone with any grasp on reality.
thumbup
thumbup
Ah, the Bubble boys.

Who inflates who bubble this week chaps smile

JagLover

42,451 posts

236 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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ATG said:
It isn't just the old. The wide spread hysteria after the death of the Princess of Wales was shocking. Obviously the event itself was dreadfully sad, just as is any avoidable death that bereaves children, but the collective hysteria was self-indulgent, prurient, fantastical idiocy on a scale I had never imagined possible. The total lack of self-reflection of the participants was unnerving. Otherwise normal people behaving like lunatics and feeling confident in their behaviour because they surrounded themselves with fellow lunatics and were egged on by the gutter press whose own spectacular cynicism was largely responsible for the death in the first place.
At the time I wasn't caught up in it and in fact I spent the funeral ceremony going round a second hand book shop. I remember it as the shopkeeper had it on TV/radio.

Yes an overreaction but one that also showed the power of monarchy which is not something of reason but how it stirs the emotions. The dignified part of the constitution that provides cover for the practical.

The reaction of the people is overamplified for that reason whether it be the devotion Diana inspired or the disapproval many feel at Harry walking away from his duties.

From memory the Queen mother also attracted widespread public mourning so it wasn't just Diana.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Dont like rolls said:
Who cares about suits, UP the ladder makes more money. Very short term views you have.

If Harry goes full celeb, he will make more money and have more sycophants and arse lickers than he could have dreamed of having as HRH (officially).

He will have to look in the mirror everyday however and he is not the "Hollywood type" who would sell their morals for a nomination.
Is that you Elizabeth?

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Dont like rolls said:
Thanks to the press a lot of people had strong feelings for a young Woman in a broken marriage with two young sons who was under intrusive scrutiny, it is not surprising they wished to demonstrate their respect after such a tragic and horrific death far from home. To dismiss such feelings in other people is quite frankly rather pompous and shows a unpleasant feeling of superiority in those that do..
It was utterly ridiculous really looking back. But this post is only one step away from full blown hysteria.