Harry and Meghan

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jcremonini

2,100 posts

168 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Dont like rolls said:
TwistingMyMelon said:
Haha If I had a photographer follow me round for the day , I would probably have social services round by teatime, let alone a load of tutting daily mail commentators. The other day I let my 2 year old steer the car off the drive and let my 5 year old drive down the street with me doing the pedals!! A misaligned sling isnt even on the scale

I dont understand how one women can generate so much hate in one paper, reminds me of the hatred towards Dianne Abbott and Gina Miller.....bit of a trend

Yet Katie Price and Lauren Goodger get glowing photo shoots in the same paper....when they have very dubious life choices and are stty examples
Not a great fan of it either, there are much deeper aspects to this than Her/His relationship, how she carries a baby, and photo-shoots (that is what this was) like this.

People react to hypocrites in various ways and express their dislike within scale to the problem or at the extremes. Sadly hypocrites open the door to comment and then the divides starts to happen and many move (comment) to the extreme in a strange defensive one-upmanship.


Edited by Dont like rolls on Tuesday 21st January 10:50
So you have empirical evidence she arranged to be photographed carry her baby slightly skew wiff do you ?

Don’t you think, for one moment, that the photographer took hundreds of shots of her walking and , as would happen with anyone walking down a road for a few minutes, one of those picture caught her looking at the camera with a slight smile on her face. Maybe that smile was as a result of some other interaction rather than the one between her and the camera?

Perhaps you could tell us all about all these other aspects of her life , ones that, again, you have empirical evidence of actually happening rather than what the daily mail, Piers Morgan, or whoever have made up to align with your own pre-judgements ?

As I said before - this thread is embarrassing. Grown men acting like kitchen sink gossips.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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jcremonini said:
So you have empirical evidence she arranged to be photographed carry her baby slightly skew wiff do you ?

Don’t you think, for one moment, that the photographer took hundreds of shots of her walking and , as would happen with anyone walking down a road for a few minutes, one of those picture caught her looking at the camera with a slight smile on her face. Maybe that smile was as a result of some other interaction rather than the one between her and the camera?

Perhaps you could tell us all about all these other aspects of her life , ones that, again, you have empirical evidence of actually happening rather than what the daily mail, Piers Morgan, or whoever have made up to align with your own pre-judgements ?

As I said before - this thread is embarrassing. Grown men acting like kitchen sink gossips.
Egregious sexism and perpetuating negative gender stereotypes!!!!!!1

jcremonini

2,100 posts

168 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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SpeckledJim said:
jcremonini said:
So you have empirical evidence she arranged to be photographed carry her baby slightly skew wiff do you ?

Don’t you think, for one moment, that the photographer took hundreds of shots of her walking and , as would happen with anyone walking down a road for a few minutes, one of those picture caught her looking at the camera with a slight smile on her face. Maybe that smile was as a result of some other interaction rather than the one between her and the camera?

Perhaps you could tell us all about all these other aspects of her life , ones that, again, you have empirical evidence of actually happening rather than what the daily mail, Piers Morgan, or whoever have made up to align with your own pre-judgements ?

As I said before - this thread is embarrassing. Grown men acting like kitchen sink gossips.
Egregious sexism and perpetuating negative gender stereotypes!!!!!!1
Heh.

poo at Paul's

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14,153 posts

176 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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jcremonini said:
Heh.
eh,.... surely?

(Ay?)

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vonuber

17,868 posts

166 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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SpeckledJim said:
Egregious sexism and perpetuating negative gender stereotypes!!!!!!1
Only if you think only women do that. He didn't bring gender into it, you did.

hutchst

3,706 posts

97 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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vonuber said:
Only if you think only women do that. He didn't bring gender into it, you did.
Are you assuming jcremonini is a he?

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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vonuber said:
SpeckledJim said:
Egregious sexism and perpetuating negative gender stereotypes!!!!!!1
Only if you think only women do that. He didn't bring gender into it, you did.
No way, Pedro. The implication was clearly that kitchen sink gossips were women and that grown men should be above that kind of behaviour. He also assumed our gender.

The transgressions are many and the harm considerable.

I'm appalled and shocked and seriously considering tweeting!

bloomen

6,930 posts

160 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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The only thing that interests me any more about this is how much coverage they'll garner in the years to come. Will it fall away or heat up?

I can imagine places like the daily mail having a permanent section devoted to them until their readers threaten to blow their offices unless they stop it.

Smiler.

11,752 posts

231 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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"I'm appalled and shocked at all the posters who are appalled and shocked & I'm going to keep coming back to this thread to let everyone know how appalled and shocked I am.

Not that I really care about any of it."

vonuber

17,868 posts

166 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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hutchst said:
Are you assuming jcremonini is a he?
Yup.

jcremonini

2,100 posts

168 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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bloomen said:
The only thing that interests me any more about this is how much coverage they'll garner in the years to come. Will it fall away or heat up?

I can imagine places like the daily mail having a permanent section devoted to them until their readers threaten to blow their offices unless they stop it.
It will have to heat up. If only to suit some of the posters on here .

That way, when there is a picture of , say, ( boo, hiss ) Meghan, in the paper we can be told how it’s an arranged photo call and how evil she is. I mean, if I wanted the papers to get pictures of me the first place I’d think of is some outlying part of Canada . No way would I ever think of going to LA or ( staying in) London or some metropolis with daily hordes of paparazzi floating around looking for opportunities.

Sway

26,331 posts

195 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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jcremonini said:
It will have to heat up. If only to suit some of the posters on here .

That way, when there is a picture of , say, ( boo, hiss ) Meghan, in the paper we can be told how it’s an arranged photo call and how evil she is. I mean, if I wanted the papers to get pictures of me the first place I’d think of is some outlying part of Canada . No way would I ever think of going to LA or ( staying in) London or some metropolis with daily hordes of paparazzi floating around looking for opportunities.
Two questions:

Do you think it wasn't an arranged photocall, carefully cheoropraphed/staged?

Do you think there's greater ability to attempt to "control" the press to your own ends if you're located in the depths of a Canadian island, or would you have more control over them in LA?

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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bloomen said:
The only thing that interests me any more about this is how much coverage they'll garner in the years to come. Will it fall away or heat up?
Entirely up to them, they need to be doing things for the press to capture. No stories = no reason to talk about them.

If you look at some of the most famous movie stars, you hear nothing about them, until they have a movie to promote at which point they appear again in the press, and then disappear again afterwards.

Meghan walking the dogs is a story today only due to whats going on. Meghan walking the dogs in 6 months time is not worth coverage unless she does something to make it one.

ATG

20,625 posts

273 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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vonuber said:
hutchst said:
Are you assuming jcremonini is a he?
Yup.
Paediatrics!

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

100 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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I bet the baby sling thing manufacturer is pissed that she's showing how unsafe their kit is. That being, of course, that she's not trying to move the baby out of the way of her face.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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This all has echoes of what his mother went though. Regardless of how awkwardly it seems to have been approached by H and M, or how tacky some of the things the Sussexes have allegedly been planning may appear, the media are clawing at this to squeeze as much juicy goss out of it as they can. It's quite distasteful.

MC Bodge

21,677 posts

176 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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This thread is a little like watching The League of Gentleman.

GreatGranny

9,132 posts

227 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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anonymous said:
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It's typical British gutter press and I don't blame them for leaving.

And some posters on here have gone full nuclear cringe!

bitchstewie

51,454 posts

211 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Sway said:
bhstewie said:
Sway said:
That's not a zoom lens (zoom would compress the perspective massively). She's posing for the camera. Etc.

So that part of your argument is clearly false.

Secondly, why no similar photos whilst undergoing press harassment whilst in the UK?
There is no argument.

Why do people give a st about it?

Grown men dissecting the angle of a baby harness for a fleeting second.
Some really can't stand hypocrisy.

Others seem to want to come up with spurious and obviously false reasons why those people who can't must be wrong and odd...
When you're discussing whether it was a "zoom" lens or a "prime" lens and what the focal length was to capture the exact moment a baby sling might have been at a non-NP&E approved angle then yes I do think that's a bit odd.

I'm not a parent but if I was I'm pretty sure that if someone followed me with a camera I'd have Social Services around by midday.

To each their own though maybe it's perfectly normal.

poo at Paul's

Original Poster:

14,153 posts

176 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Mothersruin said:
I bet the baby sling thing manufacturer is pissed that she's showing how unsafe their kit is. That being, of course, that she's not trying to move the baby out of the way of her face.
It's probably a stunt baby!
Archie is stuck back on the Island in his armoured nursery, Navy stationed off coast with hotline to Trudeau, in case someone tries to nobble his Calpol.